Ishkurs Guide to Electronic Music - erutufon|nofuture

CV · 30th January 2004

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Originally posted by Weishaupt
http://www.di.fm/edmguide/edmguide.html

This site has some great little nuggets of writing on it about 303, 808 , tech 12 etc... its cool

CV · 30th January 2004

I like this guys tone!

He defines Rio Funk , what we was discussing at this forum recently, very succintly..

CV · 30th January 2004

Epic trance aka McTrance !!

databombers · 30th January 2004

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Originally posted by cristian
I like this guys tone!

great pun... tone

*Lady E* · 30th January 2004

gloomcore?

experimental techno - by si beg

CV · 30th January 2004

Oh man!

he's even put up Zoids by Rob Hubbard - from the Commodore 64 !!!

this is the coolest documentation of the scene i think i've ever read..

particularly liked the phrase ' acid that kicks your ass so hard you'll be shitting shoes for a month'

**V Knid esq** · 30th January 2004

I tried to draw a map like that once when I was about 17 and doing too much acid, but it expanded and expanded right back to slavery bringing west african rhythms into America and even further back to Arabic mathematics being imported to Europe allowing the enlightenment, new instruments, baroque music etc etc. Then I lost it (the map and the plot)

*Lady E* · 30th January 2004

wasnt someone on the board doing a map like that? was it ava?

DsD · 30th January 2004

uh i realy like what he writes about the gooooood old 303 and the sound examples are for the different music styles realy fit there. phuture - acid track for example

Ava · 30th January 2004

yeah, i was doing some sort of chart for a little while, i gave it up when i realised it would be

a) about 2 metres square at 12 pt text
b) a little pointless

gonna check this link out now though

Ava · 30th January 2004

woah this site is pretty amazing!

i could never have done it as wittily. i like the section on swedish techno. is there anything they cannot do?

**marcel** · 30th January 2004

drum'n'bass- jungle lite. fantastic!

great map, although he putted technasia into the german section.

thanks for the link cristian!

**marcel** · 30th January 2004

cosmos(not thomas bangalter)

tsr_tomas · 30th January 2004

hehe. nice site.

wounder why he has Bauri under Idm sampled in the wrong rpm!?!?

pille'ocheoni · 30th January 2004

i like the casio core! wesley willis! yeah!

Jeniffer Mills · 30th January 2004

Great link!

30th January 2004

wow, nice work very good describtions

Tomoki · 30th January 2004

even the term "schranz" is featured. thats what I call a nearly complete documenation.

c s · 31st January 2004

that may all be true but what he writes about the only genre i'm really well-informed about is... not very adequate. if you don't know anything about EBM please don't take either the description nor the sound bits for EBM for real... 2 of the sound clips are from horrible 90s bands (when EBM became trance+shouts) and the other 2 are taken from early 90s albums of 80s acts. at the same time he mentions EBM is an 80s genre - which is of course true. but the acts mentioned in the text are also really a strange choice. and why isn't industrial (in the european sense) electronic music?

Jeniffer Mills · 31st January 2004

Uh..."Technasia" german techno? I thought they`re 2 blokes, one from Hong Kong one from Paris...

river · 2nd February 2004

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particularly liked the phrase ' acid that kicks your ass so hard you'll be shitting shoes for a month'

I fell off my chair...! That whole description is a bloody riot: 'God was probably listening to it when he made humans...'

Think this guy spins a lot of Drumcode? I think so...

I agree about the EBM - he should have some Fixmer or something similar up there. It should also be under techno and not trance, yes?

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now an expensive, overcrowded trashy tourist trap.

Tone indeed.

Oh man - did anyone see the line about 'Best Club Anthems Ever' being the musical equivalent of junk food? Brilliant.

invisibleplanet · 2nd February 2004

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Originally posted by c s
that may all be true but what he writes about the only genre i'm really well-informed about is... not very adequate. if you don't know anything about EBM please don't take either the description nor the sound bits for EBM for real... 2 of the sound clips are from horrible 90s bands (when EBM became trance+shouts) and the other 2 are taken from early 90s albums of 80s acts. at the same time he mentions EBM is an 80s genre - which is of course true. but the acts mentioned in the text are also really a strange choice. and why isn't industrial (in the european sense) electronic music?

i hope you send to him, the information which you have which Ishkur is lacking? I'm sure it would be very welcome!

c s · 2nd February 2004

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Originally posted by invisibleplanet
i hope you send to him, the information which you have which Ishkur is lacking? I'm sure it would be very welcome!

hmm didn't think of it - i tend to get a bit rude when people give EBM a bad name by offering soundbits from 90s crap bands like "Icon Of Coil" or "Apoptygma Berzerk" as examples of the style...

well, but if the rest of the tree is as well-done as you all say it might be worth it, ok.

*Lady E* · 2nd February 2004

its broad in scope and really fun to read but not amazingly accurate...i mean, gloomcore, come on! whats that about?
but im not knocking it, it certainly is a fun site.

2nd February 2004

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Originally posted by c s

hmm didn't think of it - i tend to get a bit rude when people give EBM a bad name by offering soundbits from 90s crap bands like "Icon Of Coil" or "Apoptygma Berzerk" as examples of the style...

well, but if the rest of the tree is as well-done as you all say it might be worth it, ok.

EBM should feature Nitzer ebb, and it should plug into Detroit Techno too

Pretty good though really.

Makes me feel fucking old though.. I can imagine it now.. in twenty years time watching 'The House and Techno years' on BBC36... slo-mo shots of Blair getting assasinated, with "Radianations on the rise" as the soundtrack...

c s · 2nd February 2004

yeah leaving out nitzer ebb is unforgivable for example, but also others like klinik, skinny puppy, earlier daf and krupps, let alone smaller but innovative acts like insekt, vomito negro, a split second, neon judgement, tommi stumpff have to be mentioned. yes i also read stories about people who later became detroit legends who got to know each other at front242 concerts.

*Spandex* · 2nd February 2004

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Originally posted by Steev

Makes me feel fucking old though.. I can imagine it now.. in twenty years time watching 'The House and Techno years' on BBC36... slo-mo shots of Blair getting assasinated, with "Radianations on the rise" as the soundtrack...

Hope he doesn't get assasinated. I'd just like him to get a hit a lot. I really can't believe he doesn't get hit a lot already. I have daydreams where I'm beating him over the nose.

marcus · 2nd February 2004

...and dont forgett to praise the design!!!

30th January 2004	#2
CV cristianvogel.neverengine.org Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Berlin Posts: 2,983	I like this guys tone! He defines Rio Funk , what we was discussing at this forum recently, very succintly..
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30th January 2004	#3
CV cristianvogel.neverengine.org Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Berlin Posts: 2,983	Epic trance aka McTrance !!
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30th January 2004	#5
Lady E Mysterious Girl Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Brighton Posts: 7,918	gloomcore? experimental techno - by si beg
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30th January 2004	#6
CV cristianvogel.neverengine.org Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Berlin Posts: 2,983	Oh man! he's even put up Zoids by Rob Hubbard - from the Commodore 64 !!! this is the coolest documentation of the scene i think i've ever read.. particularly liked the phrase ' acid that kicks your ass so hard you'll be shitting shoes for a month'
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30th January 2004	#7
V Knid esq Erutufon Subscriber Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Lahndan Taaaahn Posts: 13,436	I tried to draw a map like that once when I was about 17 and doing too much acid, but it expanded and expanded right back to slavery bringing west african rhythms into America and even further back to Arabic mathematics being imported to Europe allowing the enlightenment, new instruments, baroque music etc etc. Then I lost it (the map and the plot) ...........................
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30th January 2004	#9
DsD Registered Erutufon Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Stuttgart Posts: 1,058	uh i realy like what he writes about the gooooood old 303 and the sound examples are for the different music styles realy fit there. phuture - acid track for example
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30th January 2004	#10
Ava chinpistons Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: bristol Posts: 925	yeah, i was doing some sort of chart for a little while, i gave it up when i realised it would be a) about 2 metres square at 12 pt text b) a little pointless gonna check this link out now though
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30th January 2004	#12
marcel I'm a monster. Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Berlin, Germany Posts: 4,450	drum'n'bass- jungle lite. fantastic! great map, although he putted technasia into the german section. thanks for the link cristian! ........................... pew pew!
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30th January 2004	#13
marcel I'm a monster. Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Berlin, Germany Posts: 4,450	cosmos(not thomas bangalter) ........................... pew pew!
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30th January 2004	#14
tsr_tomas våll tjäften! Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: stockholm, sweden Posts: 2,843	hehe. nice site. wounder why he has Bauri under Idm sampled in the wrong rpm!?!?
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30th January 2004	#15
pille'ocheoni Just add a gabber kick Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 7,220	i like the casio core! wesley willis! yeah!
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30th January 2004	#16
Jeniffer Mills back4abit Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: berlin Posts: 6,512	Great link!
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30th January 2004	#17
goA^de\|iC Posts: n/a	wow, nice work very good describtions
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30th January 2004	#18
Tomoki Registered Erutufon Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Frankfurt, Germany Posts: 1,378	even the term "schranz" is featured. thats what I call a nearly complete documenation.
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31st January 2004	#19
c s rotorikTET Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: hh Posts: 2,033	that may all be true but what he writes about the only genre i'm really well-informed about is... not very adequate. if you don't know anything about EBM please don't take either the description nor the sound bits for EBM for real... 2 of the sound clips are from horrible 90s bands (when EBM became trance+shouts) and the other 2 are taken from early 90s albums of 80s acts. at the same time he mentions EBM is an 80s genre - which is of course true. but the acts mentioned in the text are also really a strange choice. and why isn't industrial (in the european sense) electronic music?
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2nd February 2004	#24
Lady E Mysterious Girl Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Brighton Posts: 7,918	its broad in scope and really fun to read but not amazingly accurate...i mean, gloomcore, come on! whats that about? but im not knocking it, it certainly is a fun site.
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2nd February 2004	#28
marcus nofuture recording artist Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: northsouth Posts: 13	...and dont forgett to praise the design!!!
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