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Old 27th August 2003   #31
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been makin music for 18 years, djing for 10

www.feedthemachine.org running the label for 3
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Old 27th August 2003   #32
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I am a bedroom DJ. One day I might be able to play out at parties and stuff but it's still a while off.
do you play good rekids?
if you do then you should try and play em and not worry about the whole dj-dj thing, being pissed can help sometimes.
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Old 27th August 2003   #33
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been makin music for 18 years, djing for 10

www.feedthemachine.org running the label for 3

how old are you?
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Old 27th August 2003   #34
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aleks and me are the most untalented dj team in the world.
we call us drunk'n'dangerous (toiletboy and wolfsauge) and our style is that we have no style.
we even don't own any records.......hahahaha


btw we are really cheap to book (and we could lend us some records from friends which we could play)........
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Old 27th August 2003   #35
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forgot to mention that...thanks jukka. btw i can call three records my own!

feel free to contact me for booking info...
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i play rekids at parties and stuff, don't really love being dj as much as playing kick ass rekids to people who like 'the dancin', make sense? probably not.
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Old 27th August 2003   #37
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aleks aka toiletboy

...i just had the need to plug in some shameless selfpromotion !!!
hmmm...i have some records as well.....maybe about 20 or so (very mixed styles) incl. the great ghosbusters anthem which will blow everbodys brain...
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Old 27th August 2003   #38
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DJ/Promoter with aspirations towards makin' my own stuff to play out(Released? Doesn't really matter any more does it?)...

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Old 27th August 2003   #39
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I play records at parties sometimes.

I've been making music of some description for about 10years.

Havn't released anything yet.
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Old 27th August 2003   #40
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I dabble in the art of putting one record on
after another whilst getting piddly on booze.
Have done for the last 15-16yrs...buying n playing records
that is..not getting splattered. Some may argue the above tho..
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Old 27th August 2003   #41
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Old 27th August 2003   #42
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i am not a producer, but i make electronic music...if i ever release a record that´s fine, but i don´t really care about it. the chance to make a good living out of music is pretty low and being rather untalented this idea is utopia. i will go on making music forever, because it´s big fun...

I wish more people in life had this attitude... I'm not dissing people for making a living out of music - more admiring this hobbyist drive...

To often these days people are like, what are you doing that for? No one want those, or no one will buy that... Like I care, everything gotta have its value in gold these days... In increasingly less and less tangible world, going out and doing shit cos you want to has to be admired, 'specially if you enjoy it and can sit back and watch others clamber for fame and fortune or be the next big, newest bestest thing. (I'm talking generally here, not just music).

Cheers Aleks, you've cheered me up after another miserable day in the office...
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Old 27th August 2003   #43
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Music and money, music and money, music and money...

Sure, it's great to make music for the sake of making music, for the love of the game, to make people dance, to make them smile, to make them THINK.

If you are simply a hobbyist, a bedroom punter, cool. But if music is your first love, your chosen career, why would you not want to get paid for it?

"I don't think I'm good enough to get paid for making and playing music."

Well, then you never will.

"Money is the root of all evil."

Bullshit. Evil is the root of all evil. Money can be used for many great purposes, if placed in the hands of intelligent, responsible people who refuse to allow themselves to be corrupted by it.

Sure, a cashless society is a great idea, but that's simply not the world we live in at this point and time. Maybe somewhere down the line we will exist in a paradise where LOVE rules and all is based entirely on a fair and equal exchange of goods and services (and bodily fliuds, my personal fave...). But for now, cash *is* important, if you wish to affect those changes.

"You don't need money to make music, but you need music to make money."

So, all of you bedroom producers and d.j.s should be working your asses off making beautiful sounds, so that you can get out of your dreary day jobs and get paid to do what it is you love most. Then, when your wallet is brimming with the bounties of your labour, go out and start giving it away to the people you know will help YOU make a difference here on this big, blue marble in the sky.

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Cheers Aleks, you've cheered me up after another miserable day in the office...

no problem mate...
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i play rekids at parties and stuff, don't really love being dj as much as playing kick ass rekids to people who like 'the dancin', make sense? probably not.

no, i get ya, i always thought the best way to end up a dj was kinda by default just cos you happened to have the maddest records.
rather than a career option
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Old 27th August 2003   #46
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If you are simply a hobbyist, a bedroom punter, cool. But if music is your first love, your chosen career, why would you not want to get paid for it?

i wouldn´t mind getting paid for it, but the chance to make a good living out of it is pretty low. so i cannot count on that...

music will always be my first love, even if i don´t make a living out of it. even if you have a dreary day job, you can still do what you love the most, can´t you?
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Old 27th August 2003   #47
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i wouldn´t mind getting paid for it, but the chance to make a good living out of it is pretty low. so i cannot count on that...

music will always be my first love, even if i don´t make a living out of it. even if you have a dreary day job, you can still do what you love the most, can´t you?

1. The chances are only as good as you believe them to be, my friend.

2. But why would you not want to have your cake and eat it, too?

3. i.
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sometimes making money out of music is a bit of a double edged sword.
this might sound a bit odd, but my enjoyment of music is definately less innocent since i started trying to sell my own with all the bullshit and setbacks that involves.
that sort of stuff can definately have you wondering why you are doing it (sometimes) rather than simply buying and enjoying it for what it is.
although saying that, hearing a really crazy out there tune, that has me pissing myself at how mad the producer that made it must be usually snaps me back on track
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Old 27th August 2003   #49
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Exactly - trick is to keep yourself *centred* - it's all about the balance, baybee!!!

I get so wound up when working on psychotrax, and you know how I keep myself grounded?

*smoke lots of ganja and ingest other smoothing out substances/take stimulants such as caffeine, nicotine, etc.*

*meditate, practice yoga, get shiatsu and other treatments/go for looong walks, run around like a nut in the park, go on the swings and the jungle gym*

*sleep when I need it/fuck like a rabbit when I don't*

See the pattern? Tick-tock, tick-tock...balance.

Speaking of corker tunes, I've noticed that not one of you closet superstars has bothered trying to remix my work. It's up on the FTP, and that's all that I'm going to tell you - you'll have to dig, dig, dig to find it. And if anyone can do anything more interesting with my tracks than I've done to them - well, then I guess I'll just have to relinquish my crown and hand it over to the new King or Queen.

Go 'head, make my MP3!



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I get so wound up when working on psychotrax, and you know how I keep myself grounded?

*smoke lots of ganja and ingest other smoothing out substances/take stimulants such as caffeine, nicotine, etc.*



one of the ways you keep yourself grounded is to take drugs!
nice one mate pleased to meet you.
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Old 28th August 2003   #51
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i've been working on music since i was about 10 years old. 95% of it wasn't any good. just me playing guitar with a drum maching and a tape deck. i've gotten better at it over the years but now its more techno based and there's alot of sound collage/music concrete (vut and paste) type things i do. i hope to put out records one day, even just press some for myself to play out.

i've performed live about 4-5 times over the past 7 years and have enjoyed it and hated it at the same time. much stress about sounding good.

i started buying records in '93 and got my first set of decks in '95.
i've played out here and there, but never all that consistantly since
about late '94. i've played on the east coast once and in mexico
a few times. most times djing out is such a drag with shit sound,
lousy/sketchy promoters or wrecked turntables/needles.
i really like playing hard experimental techno but that style just
does NOT go over well anywhere in american except maybe the
midwest and New York. i also play deep, minimal house/techno
and ambient.
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Old 28th August 2003   #52
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Sounds very similar to my story, only in my case it's Canaduh and The Philippines.

..and for every ten shite gigs, there has to have been at least one or two moments of glory that you experienced - it can't have been *all* bad, ja?

You have a couple of options - if you're not accepted on your home turf, you can either stick it out, or take your wares elsewhere. Take my friends in Manila, as an example. Their club, Kemistry (where I held a kickass residency), first opened to packed houses and lineups down the street. But then the clubbers (and the owners...and myself, I should add) overextended themselves - oooh, burnout. Next thing you know, the club district was a near ghost-town. So, they made a logical, heartfelt decision:

"We're not being appreciated for what we do, so we're going to take it away for a while."

The last party at the club ended at 11:00 in the morning. Final casualties - two (of four) turntables, and one hella-worn-out DJM500 (autographed by Jazzanova, no less, and subsequently retired to the 'wall of fame'). That, and the core crew who had remained devoted the entire time - everyone was in la-la land by six o'clock. My favourite a.m. memory from that party was watching my friend Noel (one half of Rubber Inc., Manila's best live PA), dancing in his PJs after I threw on Tenpole Tudor's "Who Killed Bambi", from the Pistols' "Great Rock&Roll Swindle". Hilarious - fuzzy (he looks like Wolverine from X-men) little Brit expat, skanking around on the empty dancefloor, with the Sunday sun streaming in through the windows above the booth.

Personally, I think that North America has burned itself out from raves and clubbing. The youth are out of control - too much shite music, too many crap pills. The scene here needs to be taken away for a bit, so people can wise up and realise that a party just ain't a party unless it's *QUALITY*.

Trust the promoter.
Trust the d.j.
Trust yourself.

If those three elements aren't in place, then you're just hanging around in some dank, violated space, killing your mind and learning *nothing*. That's what I see here these days, which is why I rarely go out anymore, which is why I'm desperately shopping my tracks where I believe they'll truly be appreciated - Europe and Asia.

The law of diminishing returns tells us that you can give, and give and give, but eventually you get to the point where you get *zip*, *zilch*, *nada* back. But once you've reached that zero point, there has to be a rebound. So, North America is currently sliding down the tubes. Doesn't mean it will last forever, and when it has bounced back, you can return and try, try, try, try again.

My mate Traxx once told me, "take care of home first". Well, home is not your physical proximity on the planet - it's *YOU*. So, don't worry about what's going on around you - if it doesn't feel right, or even remotely comfortable, then get the hell outta Dodge. Go where you know you'll be accepted, not where you'll be ignored.

*whew!* long one...hope that helps a touch.

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Old 28th August 2003   #53
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i am very musical

YO,

i have a record label
and play the music
at a nekkid lady bar.

also, i've been trying
to make my instruments
sound like autechre
for the past ten years
now.




also:my girlfriend.

shh.







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Old 28th August 2003   #54
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also, i've been trying
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sound like autechre
for the past ten years
now.
Nord Lead, Yo...great little unit - the synth just sits there, while you fiddle away at connecting little dots on your monitor. Very Zen.

Or...you could completely forego trying to sound like someone else, and simply try to sound like *yourself*. Much more innovative and original, imho.

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Old 28th August 2003   #55
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Old 28th August 2003   #56
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i´m dj and producer or you can call it djoducer.
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i try to make some good techno/electronic tunes since 95. sometimes it works, and sometimes not

you MAKE good tunes, man!!!
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Old 28th August 2003   #58
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as far as a producer goes...
im almost there
djing inconsistantly for about 10 years, but things are starting to look up...
the city I live in is more in to doing the Texas Two Step or the hokey pokey,
but fuck it.......i slip in a track here and there
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i was dj(ane for the germans) now i am just paranoiddancer...


because of brainwashing veterinary medicine studies
ha!maybe next semester i try to become dj again (if i pass this F*** pysikum=preliminary medical examination now!)
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Old 28th August 2003   #60
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pruduction_have put 2 of my [remix] efforts up in the public library_

dj'ing is ok_ playing other peoples stuff is fun for a bit_ but nada beats making your own [beats] n noises n decisions etc
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