Who likes Techno?

[TEC-HO]

Techno documentary on radio 4. It's quite good! Kind of like modulations...

It was on yesterday.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/

[Irrungenwirrungen]

Will check it out later

[les diamond]

techno sux but buy gunjack-planetrhythm 065 when it comes out plz

[thepigjockey]

Snotty Radio 4 bitch doing the intro:

'Techno music and its appeal may well be a mystery to most of us...'

Just listen to the way she spits out the word 'techno'.

[Patrick]

Originally Posted by thepigjockey

Snotty Radio 4 bitch doing the intro:

'Techno music and its appeal may well be a mystery to most of us...'

Just listen to the way she spits out the word 'techno'.

It gets worse from that point on.

They used Fedde Le Goon - "put your hands up for Detroit" ffs

And there's a description of listening to techno in a club as being "sort of like winning the oxford/cambridge boat race whilst listening to your favourite songs and having a massage at the same time". Made me realise I' wasn't really the target audience for that show.

[Yer_Maw]

Originally Posted by Patrick

as being "sort of like winning the oxford/cambridge boat race whilst listening to your favourite songs and having a massage at the same time". Made me realise I' wasn't really the target audience for that show.

No fucking way? Seriously? I listen to a lot of radio 4 but have to turn off in frustration about how complete shite some folk spout out. Posh wanks. Not that kind of posh wank, the bad one.

[Spandex]

I nearly threw a plate at the radio whilst doing the washing up last night.. it was "The Moral Maze" which always makes me angry (being the ultimate example of posh wanks deciding what's best for less well-educated people, like builders and blacks) but this time it was about inheritance tax and some bloke was being fairly reasonable and pointing out that a balance seems sensible.. so parents can leave stuff to their children but can't leave them a vast unearned fortune and preserve a massive rich/poor divide. He pointed out that nothing below £300,000 was taxed so parents could still provide amply for their kids.. and then that Daily Mail whore Melanie Phillips said (sarcastically) that it was nice of him to "choose to throw us a few crumbs". I hope her wizened cunt goes septic and she dies slowly and painfully from the resulting infection, preferably in the street, with everyone pointing and laughing. And I hope it fucking stinks. Awful harpy.

[[sik]]

someone should make a modulations 2.0...would be a cool job for a while.

[Patrick]

Originally Posted by Yer_Maw

No fucking way? Seriously? I listen to a lot of radio 4 but have to turn off in frustration about how complete shite some folk spout out. Posh wanks. Not that kind of posh wank, the bad one.

Yeah, 'fraid so. They also had some bird off big brother* spouting on about raves and free parties as a counterpoint to all the posh wanks so, y'know, it was balanced


* apparently that's where she was from, anyway. I never heard or heard of her before.

[Sheridan]

I like techno, but hate when people in the media talk about because they don't know what the fuck they are talking about.

[joe pinapples]

Originally Posted by Patrick

Yeah, 'fraid so. They also had some bird off big brother* spouting on about raves and free parties as a counterpoint to all the posh wanks so, y'know, it was balanced


* apparently that's where she was from, anyway. I never heard or heard of her before.

this yin probably:

http://cache.viewimages.com/xc/76317...31B75F 48EF45

weren't a lot of the big outdoor parties that made it into the papers back in the early 90's run by posho public school boys as a sort of gap year entrepreneurial enterprise?

[Patrick]

Yeah, they were.

[V Knid esq]

that programme was a joke. It never mentioned the European influence on Detroit (apart from Kraftwerk), never mentioned UR, called acid house the "offspring" of techno, never said how techno influenced hardcore and jungle, never mentioned Alvin Toffler and the other theoretical stuff the Detroit guys were into, never mentioned Richie Hawtin, Blake Baxter, Kenny Larkin, CARL CRAIG, never mentioned any UK/Euro post techno stuff like R&S / WARP / Aphex / Autechre etc, never mentioned how it's become "cool" again now... started the programme off with some pounding bollocks and then Put Yr Hands Up For Fucks Sake.... any cunt with a clue would have put tracks like At Les or Jupiter Jazz up front to win over curious radio 4 listeners, played some lush Aphex Ambient Works later on, kept it varied... as it was the intro would have put everyone off, only people who would have actually been listening were techno lovers and we all thought it was a pile of cunt. Cunts.

[nempsey]

i bet there's been people who actually know what they're talking about putting in techno-related ideas to radio 4 for years. and now they've gone and made some shit pile of wank, they'll never commission another. ah well

however the boat race chat is hilarious...

[grobelaar]

Maybe they should have let Radio 3 do this one. I got halfway through then the connection got all flakey.

Didn't know all that stuff about Detroit riots and half the population fucking off - probably about the most interesting thing - assuming that those facts are more accurate then the music ones?

[Irrungenwirrungen]

Originally Posted by nempsey

however the boat race chat is hilarious...

So, who's gonna sample it then?

[Patrick]

Originally Posted by grobelaar

Maybe they should have let Radio 3 do this one. I got halfway through then the connection got all flakey.

Didn't know all that stuff about Detroit riots and half the population fucking off - probably about the most interesting thing - assuming that those facts are more accurate then the music ones?

Yeah, the white flight bit is accurate.

[Patrick]

Probably setting myself up for more annoyance, but I'm just starting to listen to.......

Sorted for Es and Whizz (30 min)
Twenty years after the birth of Acid House, Miranda Sawyer examines how rave culture has moved from being an act of rebellion to becoming the mainstream.

[darius_Er]

I like techno.

I`ve been listening for 10 years...

[thepigjockey]

I think we all do but we don't like the BBC

spindryer type techno is arse. the rest is fuckin' pukka

[grobelaar]

I dunno - in fairness what was we expecting from the show - at least it gets some air time to the topic of techno.

Can't help thinking that this show is another sign of another one of those 'techno is going to be the next big thing' bubble - never really materialises though does it - sure some techno influence pops up in mainstream pop and more commercial dance music - but it's not the techno we all know and love.

[V Knid esq]

Originally Posted by Patrick

Probably setting myself up for more annoyance, but I'm just starting to listen to.......

Sorted for Es and Whizz (30 min)
Twenty years after the birth of Acid House, Miranda Sawyer examines how rave culture has moved from being an act of rebellion to becoming the mainstream.

Any good? Miranda Sawyer is actually very smart and funny and an original raver to boot.

[Koenig]

Originally Posted by joe pinapples

weren't a lot of the big outdoor parties that made it into the papers back in the early 90's run by posho public school boys as a sort of gap year entrepreneurial enterprise?

Tony Colston-Hayer ran the Back to the Future parties in 1988/9 and he was a proper posher, he used to throw those debutate balls the cronically posh kids used to go to.

[darius_Er]

Originally Posted by thepigjockey

I think we all do but we don't like the BBC

I think so.

Mary Anne Hobbs has an radio show in BBC , hasn`t she ?

[nempsey]

Originally Posted by grobelaar

I dunno - in fairness what was we expecting from the show - at least it gets some air time to the topic of techno.
.

i disagree - many progs on radio 4 are excellent. no reason why a prog on techno couldn't have been if the producer + presenter actually knew what they were talking about. it should have been presented by a proper techno person

[The Physicist]

that program sounds not that informative. where's the culture?

techno rocks

[djerome]

Originally Posted by Patrick

Probably setting myself up for more annoyance, but I'm just starting to listen to.......

Sorted for Es and Whizz (30 min)
Twenty years after the birth of Acid House, Miranda Sawyer examines how rave culture has moved from being an act of rebellion to becoming the mainstream.

here's the rest of the description:

Miranda Sawyer examines how rave culture has moved from being an act of rebellion to becoming the mainstream. Twenty years after the birth of Acid House, she reassesses the legacy of the movement and asks whether it was a rebellion against Thatcherism, a business enterprise or merely an expression of hedonism.

Followed by News.



sounds interesting!

on the subject of a techno documentary: i think the history of techno is so far richer than any other electronic music, it would take a very long one to do it properly

in fact id see it as multiple narratives. there'd be one narrative about the history we can all relate to, from the beginning years... than a narrative for each of the scenes that had hatched from their respective geographic areas. ex. the germans, sweden, midwesterners, the gigolo scene, the different styles coming out of the UK. it'd be a monstrous documentary, imo.

[Patrick]

Originally Posted by V Knid esq

Any good? Miranda Sawyer is actually very smart and funny and an original raver to boot.

It wasn't bad, but - you knew there was going to be a 'but, didn't ya - I was listening while doing other things and my attention wandered a few times because the show didn't really cover anything we haven't heard a million times before. That's not necessarily a criticism I suppose, because a half hour show on Radio 4 is never going to have the sort of depth needed to satisfy the kind of nerds who hang around places like this, so I guess it was always going to sound a bit clichéd and hackneyed to these ears.

[thepigjockey]

The Sawyer thing's OK. Listening to it now. The Pay Party Unit fellow (Ken Tappenden) was quite frank and interesting about it all. Bit rich Mr C moaning about Tony Colston Hayter re. capitalising on the culture.. ahem!!!