a shocking poll...

[aleks]

there was a poll in germany asking about the attitude towards right-wing politics. the result were quite shocking. 37 % out of 50000 asked people think that foreign people come to germany to abuse the welfare state. 39,1 % think that there are too many foreign people in germany. 17,8 % think that jewish people still have a big influence and 13,6% also think that jewish people don´t fit into the german society.

it seems like this racist attitude is embedded in german society. do think results in england, usa or anywhere else would be quite same or is this just a german problem?


here´s the link http://www.tagesschau.de/aktuell/mel...F1_BAB,00.html

[Loz]

antisemitism is on the rise in Germany, isn't it?

[Jeniffer Mills]

I barely blame the people though, than more the phlegmatic integration, educational and social policy we have here since years.....

[aleks]

Originally Posted by Loz

antisemitism is on the rise in Germany, isn't it?

well, i don´t know. maybe it´s never been really away...

[gypsy_cream]

isnt the same type of ''anti-this and that'' in other countries too though? germany has the stigma of it, so people will notice it more than in other places surely...

[Jeniffer Mills]

Germans , in generall are a moaning society, and their fate is allways due to "the others" but never themselfs.....

[jukka]

i bet its the same in (some) other countries.
its still shocking though and it has to change.

[emef]

Originally Posted by jukka

it has to change.

it wont though will it... people love to hate

Saying that Jews have an big influence isn't anti-semetic

Why else would you go to Germany as a foreigner if it wasn't for a better life which includes welfare support... its not going to be for the food or weather is it?

i would think that 40% thinking there are too many foreigners is probably a baseline for most countries no matter the level of ethnic mix.

Racism is much deeper than these statements. Its also a dumb servey if it doesn't ask some positive questions about the area... it seems set-up to display germany in a bad light.

Always question research

[aleks]

Originally Posted by JonnySpeed

Saying that Jews have an big influence isn't anti-semetic

Why else would you go to Germany as a foreigner if it wasn't for a better life which includes welfare support... its not going to be for the food or weather is it?

i would think that 40% thinking there are too many foreigners is probably a baseline for most countries no matter the level of ethnic mix.

Racism is much deeper than these statements.

my translation is shit. sorry.
assuming that jews are still in control of the economy etc. and therefore still have a big influence on society is in my opinion antisemitic.

it´s about foreigners abusing the german welfare system...

[Jeniffer Mills]

Originally Posted by aleks

my translation is shit. sorry.
assuming that jews are still in control of the economy etc. and therefore still have a big influence on society is in my opinion antisemitic.

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Why?

[aleks]

Originally Posted by JonnySpeed

Racism is much deeper than these statements. Its also a dumb servey if it doesn't ask some positive questions about the area... it seems set-up to display germany in a bad light.

Always question research

of course, see 50000 people out of 80 million is not what i would call representative.

but you hear people talk on the street, on the internet etc. people who don´t call themselves right-wing or who consider themselves liberal, left-wing whatever and who still have racist attitudes, even if they think they don´t have any. it seems like this attitude is deeply embedded in our society. and i just wanted to know if it is the same in other countries, because i talked to someone and he claims that in countries like england or the usa, classic democracy, don´t have this problem.

[Jeniffer Mills]

Originally Posted by aleks

of course, see 50000 people out of 80 million is not what i would call representative.

but you hear people talk on the street, on the internet etc. people who don´t call themselves right-wing or who consider themselves liberal, left-wing whatever and who still have racist attitudes, even if they think they don´t have any. it seems like this attitude is deeply embedded in our society. and i just wanted to know if it is the same in other countries, because i talked to someone and he claims that in countries like england or the usa, classic democracy, don´t have this problem.

i really doubt that people talk THAT much different in the US, UK etc...

[soulcheck]

In Poland old and stupid people blame jews and masons for everything. Even though there are almost no jews in Poland and definitely(?) no masons.

[aleks]

Originally Posted by Jeniffer Mills

Why?

because it is one of the prejudices jewish people are connected with throughout their whole history.

[Jeniffer Mills]

Originally Posted by aleks

because it is one of the prejudices jewish people are connected with throughout their whole history.

...Well..There is some truth in it, is`n t there? And i mean, whats bad about being a wealthy culture...You see, almost ANYTHING you say about jews in germany, you have to be carefull, and bite your lip... Even saying the word "jew" (german "Jude") is controversial....

[emef]

i believe they killed jesus... what a bad lot they are

[operator]

Originally Posted by emef

i believe they killed jesus... what a bad lot they are

somebody had to.
so the world could get hysterical about the memory of a guy who's memory is completely distorted and embelished.
then we could fight for the rest of time about who in history could see into the future most bestest... or something...

[Loz]

Originally Posted by emef

i believe they killed jesus... what a bad lot they are

my jewish mate goes around on Easter cheering and shouting "yeaaaah... we got him"

[soulcheck]

Antisemitism ultimately derives from the notion of the "God's chosen people" i think.

[aleks]

Originally Posted by Jeniffer Mills

...Well..There is some truth in it, is`n t there? And i mean, whats bad about being a wealthy culture...

read here: http://www.bpb.de/publikationen/GOC3...us.html #art2

[soulcheck]

As for being wealthy culture. That's one of the reasons why in jewish mythology Egypt is an adversary - Egypt was wealthy agricultural country at that time and jews were poor shepherds.

[Lighter Thief]

Originally Posted by Jeniffer Mills

i really doubt that people talk THAT much different in the US, UK etc...

You'd be wrong. We're very tolerant here in the UK. We love pakis, niggers, wops, yids, chinks and towel heads. We welcome them with open arms. Especially our police force. They simply adore ethnic minorities and often stop them in the street for a chat, or pop round to their houses.

[Jeniffer Mills]

..ok....Jews *ducks* are a poor nation...They have non influence in banking affairs, nor they have nuclear weapons. A frequently opressed nation and Israel belongs to them. Surrounded by baddies claiming that it does`nt belong to them..

And germans have racist genes in their blood......

[thembuzz]

Originally Posted by JonnySpeed

Saying that Jews have an big influence isn't anti-semetic

no, but saying they don't fit into german society is

these attitudes are not just limited to germany, by a long stretch. the far right is in pretty rude health all over western europe

[marcel]

my jewish mate goes around on Easter cheering and shouting "yeaaaah... we got him"

Originally Posted by Jeniffer Mills

..ok....Jews *ducks* are a poor nation...They have non influence in banking affairs, nor they have nuclear weapons. A frequently opressed nation and Israel belongs to them. Surrounded by baddies claiming that it does`nt belong to them..

_the_ jews, huh? all of them, right? we should get rid of them. they're taking over!

jews are no nation. it's a religion, remember?

[emef]

say what ya like about jews... their hats and curly sideburns are the fuckin bomb

[Jeniffer Mills]

are you jewish marcel??

Originally Posted by soulcheck

Antisemitism ultimately derives from the notion of the "God's chosen people" i think.

I'm more concerned about the wigs, bad 80s dresses and white tights. The fasion police needs to have a word.

[bencodec]

Originally Posted by JonnySpeed

Racism is much deeper than these statements. Its also a dumb servey if it doesn't ask some positive questions about the area... it seems set-up to display germany in a bad light.

Always question research

i was gonna say, i wonder who actually performed the survey. you can phrase questions in a survey to get what ever poll results you want.
to the germans on the board, does it "feel" like those poll results are right to you?