Prostitutes

[ckpqerjwrpwp]

Does anyone else find it disurbing that the women which have been murdered in Suffolk are always refered to as 'Prostitutes' first and women second?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/suffolk/6168697.stm

[Tec]

I thought that too this morning, but thats the whole point in the story line surely?
3 women mudered, all 'allegedly' pro's...cue "New Ripper!!" media blow out.

Its sad but it sells papers.

[dan gulberry]

Yes and no. The newsworthiness of the article is that there is a pattern to the events: prostitutes are being targeted. So it would make sense to put that upfront. If the pattern revealed that the women were, say, lecturers, then I think the reporting would follow a similar format.

But, yeah, it is also disturbing. Possibly because of the socially-ascribed lower status of prostitutes. To put that upfront makes it seem like these are murders of 'marginal' types, and not individuals who have much societal worth at all.

[notorious J.I.M]

I think if the police make a statement that the women worked as prostitutes it may be significant to the investigation but of course the media will inevitably focus on that with the 'ripper' conotations.

[terminal viscosity]

they were asking for it

[dan gulberry]

and so on.

[emef]

Originally Posted by terminal viscosity

they were asking for it

saw some prossies on't way home t'other night
they wuz askin fer it
sadly i had no money
was gonna kill em and do my evil work
but me bus came
an i didn't fancy walking home in the rain
lucky them

i vote £5,000 fine and public naming for the blokes who pay for it. scum.

[thembuzz]

is that your letter to the sun?

"i'm aiming for the daily mail first" said fuming erutufon resident and supported by a survey released today.

[love_tempo]

Originally Posted by JonnySpeed

i vote £5,000 fine and public naming for the blokes who pay for it. scum.

You can't vote, you're in jail, remember?

[thembuzz]

Originally Posted by JonnySpeed

"i'm aiming for the daily mail first" said fuming erutufon resident and supported by a survey released today.

fuming erutufon resident, yesterday (left)

http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/200...06_228x252.jpg

[Loz]

that is such a typical Daily Mail picture.

"Family looks vaguely disgusted by current situation"

[ckpqerjwrpwp]

seems like a lot of people on the BBC website agree with me...

http://newsforums.bbc.co.uk/nol/thre...739&#paginator

I am Jonas from Guildford with 71 recommendations by the way

[AVX23]

I think it disturbing they were murdered full stop. Don't matter what you call them - they are dead.

[ckpqerjwrpwp]

Originally Posted by AVX23

I think it disturbing they were murdered full stop. Don't matter what you call them - they are dead.

You don't find it disturbing that a lot of people think they had it coming and that the media will happily sensationalise the murders for a good headline?

Once someone is murdered the situation can't be made worse? That's pretty disturbing in itself mate!

[thepigjockey]

Legalisation might help I reckon. Don't know any statistics to back this up but it seems likely...

[AVX23]

Originally Posted by ckpqerjwrpwp

You don't find it disturbing that a lot of people think they had it coming and that the media will happily sensationalise the murders for a good headline?

Once someone is murdered the situation can't be made worse? That's pretty disturbing in itself mate!

Yeah man - I do (agree with you), but there's not much I can personally do about it., don't get urself worked up - it's not worth it, the poor women/girls are dead, that's bad enough without depressing ourselves over how moronic our countrymen/women are.

The national press are a bunch of banjo, cash whoring sensationalist asswipes - my saying so ain't going to change that.

[thepigjockey]

Of course the media are selective about which murders they give column inches to and which they don't. It's similar with other crimes/newsworthy events.

When I worked at Sky News the journalists/subs/editors/directors got most worked up when there was a fire somewhere and they had good pictures of flames. 'Big flames! Big flames! Yeah!' . However, if there were hundreds of deaths but no good footage of the flames, they wouldn't even cover the story

[Konx-om-Pax]

prostitute boots! belter. those were the days.

[Yer_Maw]

pretty shite serial killer. kills people that go with them up a dark alley for cash.

Originally Posted by ckpqerjwrpwp

I am Jonas from Guildford with 71 recommendations by the way

Judge Jonas speaks out for shaven teens

[soulcheck]

Originally Posted by thepigjockey

Legalisation might help I reckon. Don't know any statistics to back this up but it seems likely...

It's not that obvious. It solves problems with prostitution, but can expand what's going on underground even further.

Look at Nederlands and Germany. No probs with prostitution, but massive underground with very unpleasant things happening there.

[thembuzz]

Originally Posted by ckpqerjwrpwp

You don't find it disturbing that a lot of people think they had it coming and that the media will happily sensationalise the murders for a good headline?

i haven't seen or read anything in the media that has suggested they had it coming. even the normally kneejerk, tabloid-reading, moralising dunderheads i work with don't think that

[emef]

Originally Posted by ckpqerjwrpwp

You don't find it disturbing that a lot of people think they had it coming

do you actually know anyone who thinks they had it coming?
i dont
you're either an idiot or you surround yourself with them

Originally Posted by soulcheck

It's not that obvious. It solves problems with prostitution, but can expand what's going on underground even further.

Look at Nederlands and Germany. No probs with prostitution, but massive underground with very unpleasant things happening there.

very much like the one we already have and everybody ignores.

we should work harder at enforcing swingers parties with lots of bukkakke

[soulcheck]

Originally Posted by JonnySpeed

very much like the one we already have and everybody ignores.

we should work harder at enforcing swingers parties with lots of bukkakke

It's not the same in every country. Sex underground in UK or Spain or anywhere else is nothing compared to what happens in countries where prostitution (brothels actually, as that's what people usually mean) is legal.

There was, a wave of young girl kindappings in Poland around 1995 or 1996 (in ninetees anyway), which were later found in Dutch brothels. It's less common now, as EU made it easier to track, but still happens. I bet now it moved further east.

Look at those illegal polish labour camps in Italy uncovered this year. And that was illegal to start with. Imagine what may be happening where brothels are legal (as prostitution is actually legal in most countries).

If it was legal to have sex with 15 year old girl, then it would be much easier to cover up having sex with 13 year old.

[soulcheck]

I should write shorter posts, and make less mistakes.

[ckpqerjwrpwp]

Originally Posted by emef

do you actually know anyone who thinks they had it coming?
i dont
you're either an idiot or you surround yourself with them

You really don't think there is bias in the press about the importance of certain people over other people? Are you as stupid as you look?

steev, i'm normally with you on most stuff but i don't get what you're saying in this thread.

if the common link was blokes with beards i'm sure they'd say "two more blokes with beards missing". All the press i have read is very sympathetic to their position and doesn't make abusinve comments about what they do. nobody i know thinks they deserve it and my mum who lives near Ipswich is pretty nervous for herself and the girls we know.