Will modern British films ever get a cult following

[V Knid esq]

or will they be considered - rightly - to be fucking shit in all perpetuity? Shopping, 51st State, Blue Juice, Dog Soldiers... these truly are the worst films imaginable.

[thepigjockey]

Had to do the video compression for Dog Soldiers (to put it on DVD) meaning i had to watch the sodding thing millions of times. I'd certainly agree with you there. The great movies were old ones like The Wicker Man etc. Even the worst Hammer stuff is miles better than the fucking shit you mentioned.

(edit) thought my post seemed a bit harsh so I had a look here :

http://www.filmsite.org/brit100_1.html

(the BFI's list of the top 100 20th Century films)- it confirms what i thought- the best ones are all old, maybe a Loach here and a Leigh there and a Gilliam or two but nothing worth writing home about since the late 80's

[olv]

Originally Posted by V Knid esq

or will they be considered - rightly - to be fucking shit in all perpetuity? Shopping, 51st State, Blue Juice, Dog Soldiers... these truly are the worst films imaginable.

i havent seen any of these films but 'a room for romeo brass' is one of my favourites and its british. in fact most of shane meadows flicks have been proper good

[penciLneck]

I disagree. there have been some real gems of late. dead mans shoes, my summer of love, the constant gardener to name but a few.

Leigh and Loach seem to be fairly consistant in producing great stuff.

Shane Meadows also deserves a cult following:

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0575079/

edit: great minds think alike.

[thepigjockey]

This is encouraging, just seen 4 films on your lists which I haven't seen yet..
Thanks.

Add to the list of shitters though: 5 Children and It, Kevin and Perry, oh god I feel sick, I can't go on..

[ckpqerjwrpwp]

Morvern Callar
Ratcatcher

Lynne Ramsay is a brilliant director.

[spoon]

dead mans shoes is a great film! seen it twice now, brilliant stuff.

anyone else like layer cake? there's far too many brit gangster flicks about but layer cake is better than most i think.

[JE:5]

Dead Man's Shoes has to be one of my favourite films of all time. Must have seen it about 8 times now from showing it to various people. A Room For Romeo Brass is good too.

[labrat]

MR knid

as far as the 51st state is concerned, was samuel l jackson actually involved as a producer???

it was a pretty sordid excuse for ole yankee doodle dandy to rip the piss out of the english

trouble is, they did it coz they're pig sick jealous of the one thing they can and never will have...sarcasm!!!

RIGHT


you want cult english films??? i know people in prague who luuurve LOCK STOCK, and SNATCH, alright it isn't quadrophenia bu give em time

ok, to cut it short, I wouldn't worry coz we are identified from far away by our media in general, our own public identify more with our comedies and serials because they are current,(we also excel at these) the rest of the world focuses on our musical achievements and decide to discover the rest later on ( if they choose to visit for example) where we LACK in establishing a GLOBAL cult film following is that here, unlike america ( usa), our film style can only be understood or appreciated fully by people that have spent a bit of time here....any doubts? why do all our music exports also fail cataclysmically when offered a chance to 'take the states??'

sorry but when i went there, it took me more than a week to realize i wasn't watching tv, right down to the circular windows in the house we were staying in,

IRONICALLY, our culture in film is as much the stuff that CULT is made of as something even as 'slapdash pseudo cult rip off ' ( and i still love it) as PULP FICTION, possibly a lot more, take a quick glance at the re runs on men + motors and itv4 if you're not sure

generally, CULT is a modern thing, LEGEND is older than we can remember, we have produced and been subjected to both

quite liked that 'second coming' mini series on itv with whatshis name from doctor who in it....

[V Knid esq]

I'd forgotten Shane Meadows... I haven't actually seen Room For Romeo Brass or DMS, but I really really love Small Time and Twenty Four Seven is pretty great too...

[thomas hooked]

i felt ashamed of myself for how little i enjoyed/ engaged with Morvern Caller.

[penciLneck]

the book was good. I didn't think much of the film either if thats any consolation.

[V Knid esq]

Oh I forgot, I rather enjoyed Twenty Four Hour Party People... am intrigued by A Cock & Bull Story.

[Daddys Girl]

Nil By Mouth is a good one.

[ckpqerjwrpwp]

Originally Posted by thomas hooked

i felt ashamed of myself for how little i enjoyed/ engaged with Morvern Caller.

First time I watched it I turned it off halfway through. Then I watched Ratcather and really enjoyed it.. and went back and enjoyed Morvern Callar a lot. I've never read the book.

[ckpqerjwrpwp]

Originally Posted by labrat

sorry but when i went there, it took me more than a week to realize i wasn't watching tv, right down to the circular windows in the house we were staying in

What are you sorry about? What are you trying to say? You just wrote a very long mail and I didn't seem to actually get any information from it

[thepigjockey]

Originally Posted by V Knid esq

Oh I forgot, I rather enjoyed Twenty Four Hour Party People...

Enjoyed that too, but part of me thinks it's only 'cos I love the Mondays/New Order/Joy Division/Factory- did anyone who doesn't love these bands enjoy it? And what was 8 songs like? (same director)

[V Knid esq]

9 Songs.... Haven't seen but don't know anyone who enjoyed it.

[spoon]

Originally Posted by thepigjockey

And what was 8 songs like? (same director)

9 songs you mean. i thought it was really bad. it's pretty much just this couple going to see trendy band of the day in concert (franz ferdinand, black rebel motorcycle club etc) and then fucking each other silly. it's mind numbingly boring. i don't care why he made the movie or what it's supposed to say to people...it's like watching paint dry.

[thepigjockey]

8 and a half songs
I'll give that one a miss then

[bensonbenson]

I watched dead man's shoes and I thought it was rotten to the core, seriously boring and a bit like a racy episode of the bill.

I have spoken to loads of other people who say that it's fab - can someone please tell me what I'm missing?

[penciLneck]

wow. thats some insult! a racy episode of the bill...

have to remember that one.

I think if the bill is your only reference, you are probably missing the point.

[CV]

I like Shawn of the Dead. Thats very British - the pub being the safest place to hide from zombies.

[Konx-om-Pax]

Originally Posted by cristian

I like Shawn of the Dead. Thats very British - the pub being the safest place to hide from zombies.

the spaced team are amazin chaps.

[ckpqerjwrpwp]

I liked the first half of Shawn of the Dead, then it just got dull and ran out of ideas I thought.

I thought 28 days later started really well too actually.. and then went terrible at the end.

[JE:5]

Originally Posted by bensonbenson

I watched dead man's shoes and I thought it was rotten to the core, seriously boring and a bit like a racy episode of the bill.

I have spoken to loads of other people who say that it's fab - can someone please tell me what I'm missing?

You must have missed the whole point in the film then, either that or it's a really poor trolling attempt.

[scott confusion]

any one seen sweet sixteen? ken loach!
was at this drum n bass party deep in the mountains here and some french dude came up to me and said hey your scottish have u seen sweet sixteen?

i never even thought that had got out of the Glasgow Film theatre but was even a write up about it on the new york times..

dont get me wrong i felt as if i had been kicked in the nuts after watching it..

i wouldnt worry what anyone else thinks of british films, look what is comming out of america daily=, utter pish flaps!

[JE:5]

Can't forget Threads either for some gritty apocalypse vibes.

[thepigjockey]

Originally Posted by scott confusion

any one seen sweet sixteen? ken loach!
was at this drum n bass party deep in the mountains here and some french dude came up to me and said hey your scottish have u seen sweet sixteen?

i never even thought that had got out of the Glasgow Film theatre but was even a write up about it on the new york times..

dont get me wrong i felt as if i had been kicked in the nuts after watching it..

i wouldnt worry what anyone else thinks of british films, look what is comming out of america daily=, utter pish flaps!

Yeahh, that's a good one, coincidentally another I helped compress for DVD, and it was a welcome relief from all the Hollywood rubbish, but yes, a 'nutkicker' of a film

[thepigjockey]

Just remembered another recent-ish Scottish corker- Ae Fond Kiss.