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Old 5th November 2005   #1
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whirry sound?

I really like the board-of-canada "whirriness", on the new album it is very effective on a guitar.

Any ideas of how you could achieve that effect live, while playing a guitar? Yeah, i know it isnt cool to steal someone elses idea!

I have vague ideas about using some kind of chorus and very very soft distortion.
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i think the effect you're talking about is called a leslie. it's from a hammond organ, basically it's a little box with a fan in it which the sound passes through. george martin took one out of a hammond and used it on the vocals in tommorow never knows.

there should be some vsts about that can do it, don't know of any off hand though.

also, you might be talking about something totally different...
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oh bugger me, yes! Had forgotton about lezlie cabs.

Not sure I fancy yet another project that I need to get round-to, but it shouldn't be too much trouble to build...

cheers spoon
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Korg did some good hardware simulators...the g4 I think it was.

I think NI's B3 VST has a leslie simulator that you can use as a dedicated effect.

But I thought leslie's were based on the speaker driver rotating in a fixed cabinets with slats. I suppose there's loads of variations.
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theres tons of VST plugs that do leslie simulation stuff...
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I have a thing about not using a computer onstage, for this particular project, so it would need to be hardware.

Different for other projects tho...i'll google for some plugins
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http://search.ebay.co.uk/hammond-les...fltZ9QQfromZR8

you've probably already done this...

there's a few bits to look at on there...
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someone told me once that BOC used to record stuff to tape and stretch it to get all that woozy wobbly stuff.
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actually, while the reminder of leslie cabs excites me, i find tape-stretching a far more likely solution to the sound they get...

still.. how do I achieve this while playing a guitar live? Don't forget, it has to be in-time with other musicians (drummer and DJ)

maybe not possible

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Korg did some good hardware simulators...the g4 I think it was.

I think NI's B3 VST has a leslie simulator that you can use as a dedicated effect.

But I thought leslie's were based on the speaker driver rotating in a fixed cabinets with slats. I suppose there's loads of variations.

Yep I have one
KORG G4 ROTARY SPEAKER SIMULATOR
Works well..
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actually, while the reminder of leslie cabs excites me, i find tape-stretching a far more likely solution to the sound they get...

still.. how do I achieve this while playing a guitar live? Don't forget, it has to be in-time with other musicians (drummer and DJ)

maybe not possible

i dunno maybe some realtime musique concrete tape manipulation machine with stretch facility?

I'm imagining a big wooden handle to pull to control the 'stretch' function...
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i dunno maybe some realtime musique concrete tape manipulation machine with stretch facility?

I'm imagining a big wooden handle to pull to control the 'stretch' function...

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by Jove I think he's got it! inadvertantly you piss-taking git
I think you found the solution:

I went to look at my long unused cassette recorder.

The playing head also touches the tape when you press record, so I should be able to send a mic signal in, and take a signal out at the same time, while a pre-stretched tape is running.

That'll help with the vintage nature of the sound too, with its restricted bandwidth.

YAY! happy whuffle.
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