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Old 12th March 2002   #1
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Luke Slater's new album

...has anyone heard his newest creation off of Mute? Supposed to sound like electro 80's new wave, with vocals. Depeche Mode/New Order perhaps?

Question 2: Is mixing over rated ?
 
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Old 13th March 2002   #2
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yep. heard that new album + single on mute.
biggest crap he ever did.
just my opinion...
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Old 13th March 2002   #3
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Is it out on release yet ?

I thought Wireless was bloody marvellous.

If it's not out on release how come loads of people have heard it?

Why haven't I got any contacts ?

It ain't fair.

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Old 15th March 2002   #4
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I enjoyed wireless too. But I don't listen to it now nearly as much as other albums I bought at the same time. Perhaps overdose. It had a good attitude to it. I liked some of the remix EP's too.

I read on "technotourist" that the album was going to be released in May... I feel out of the loop too

i hope the new album is not excessive electro 80s style... i'm really getting sick of meaningless vocoder lyrics and cheesy little breakbeats... i have no basis for my negativity, it's just opinion.

Tomas Jirku is presently my hero.
 
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Old 15th March 2002   #5
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it sounds like uk rave stuff with vocals. just like underworld, etc.
thumbs down.
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Old 15th March 2002   #6
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Is he still on the Mute label ? I would have thought if he'd tried anything cheesy for an album that they'd tell him to fuck off like ...

Come on Luke, don't let me down ...
 
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Old 15th March 2002   #7
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Mute would fuck anything cheesy off? This being the label that brought you Erasure...

Reading between the lines in interviews, I suspect that Slater wants precisely to sound like Underworld as he isn't getting any younger and wants to be making big bucks from festival appearances instead of a few hundred quid here and there from constant touring of sweaty clubs.





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Old 15th March 2002   #8
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I fucking hope not. I thought he was one of the few left who weren't totally innit for the money and produced whatever he wanted to at the time. When Wireless came out, all that seemed to be about (around here anyway) was just techno-techno-techno, and Wireless sounded really fresh and different. And compared with a lot of the electro being produced today, still sounds really fresh and different !

His recent techno/house mix he did last year was a little disappointing though. The house mix was the best, the techno one just got a bit dull after a few tracks, same ol', same ol ....

And I didn't know Erasure were on Mute way back ... frightening ! Mind you that Fad Gadget are on it too, and they're fucking awful ....
 
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take cover, erasure are still on mute, they're releasing a new album these days... in fact they released 5 albums or so during the 90s... did you hear the new fad gadget album ? because i didn't but some of the classics by fg are definitely not awful.
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Have you heard the first Fad Gadget (Frank Tovey) album?, I cant remember the name, it had him done up as punch on the front, and had two absolutely classic tracks on it "Swallow It" and "Everyman should have the right" (I think were the titles) I havent got the record anymore as it was stolen by a new romanitic years ago!
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Ulp ! What have I started here. I'll be honest. I 've only heard a couple of Fad Gadget tracks at a friends...dunno what the tracks were called but wasn't impressed. Then saw them live warming up at a Depeche Mode concert last year and thought they were pretty shit really, the music seemed like a bad Depeche Mode ripoff ...but that's my humble onion ....Plus the leader singer got right on my tits by doing crap somersaults and jumped all over the stage like a dick .....
 
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daniel miller (head of mute/ the normal) was in fad gadget.

im not sure if its the greatest hits but we dont really like 'fireside favourites' in the office
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Old 18th March 2002   #13
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Wasnt Nizter Ebb the head of Mute?
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Old 18th March 2002   #14
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Eerm I don't think so. I think Daniel Miller was 'Mute' right from the start....
 
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Old 18th March 2002   #15
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so mute was a spin for bad music that aint depeche mode on novamute?
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Old 18th March 2002   #16
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I think Novamute is the dancier side to Mute (people like Luke Slater/Speedy J/Darren Price etc). Depeche Mode are on Mute. Mute is one weird mad label though. Anyone heard any Einsturezene Nuebaten (spelt totally wrong but can't be arsed finding the correct spelling) and that Nick Cave is a funny bugger too ....
 
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Old 18th March 2002   #17
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Mute records 001 the normal including the tracks
-warm leatherette, -t.v.o.d.
does anyone have or heard this record
i got it a few weeks ago when there were only 100 copies on the market, i don“t know if it is a repress or original copy.
important is, that it sounds very good and i never thought
in 1978 there was such great music.
i think Daniel Miller has created this sound does he?
simply a great record and not to be missed
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Old 18th March 2002   #18
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Hell does a cover version / cut-up / total mess of that..
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Old 18th March 2002   #19
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DJ Hell ?

Can't get onto most of his stuff really ....
 
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i think u must stick tounge firmly in cheek to understand him.
but im not happy with the way he's all over magazines nowadays.. synthcore is bak headlines and shit like that...
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Old 18th March 2002   #21
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There is room for humour in techno whilst still producing fresh sounding material (for e.g Michael Forshaw), but I don't see the point in just reproducing old sounding tracks from the early 80's.
 
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Old 18th March 2002   #22
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i think mute is really a label that deserves some respect. afaik the label always used the millions earned preferably with depeche mode and erasure to also support some really weird artists. i'm not that much of a specialist for the 1st half of the 80s but i even have a record by NON (1983? bought 1995) which was on mute, called 'blood & flame', genuine industrial noise with a slight fascist touch (just to be cool of course). also no-one mentioned laibach, a band of wit!! nitzer ebb was not the 'head of mute' , it was 2 18-yr-old angry english guys influenced by d.a.f. and krupps who became one of the most influential acts of ebm.

while i didn't always like everything on mute i still think it's been a quality brand for (mostly) electronic music for 20 yrs.
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good point rtrk. it has been more then influencial to more than alot of today's producers 4 sure.
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Old 18th March 2002   #24
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I totally agree. Definetely a very influental label that is not afraid to support the more leftfield/avant garde acts.
 
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Old 18th March 2002   #25
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daniel miller (head of mute/ the normal) was in fad gadget.

im not sure if its the greatest hits but we dont really like 'fireside favourites' in the office

i havent heard fireside favourites, but i saw him live at a recent depeche mode concert (thought he must be dead by now ,but no)
most of his set was terrible apart from 2 old classics.........

"rickys hand"..... which i still love....dead fast and dead hard
and "collapsing new people" mid tempo and freaky.
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In fact it was the Chicks on Speed that did a cover version of Warm Leatherette, but Hell did do a remix of that (that sounded like the cover version, mind you...)
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But the track "warm leatherette" is on hell“s album called "munic machine". perhaps there are two versions of this song?!
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yes mute is an amazing label. it has the entire Can back catalogue! not to mention jon spencer blues explosion. early depeche mode and erasure are very cool, as are yazoo, nick cave, diamanda galas etc etc

the other mute label is blast first - sonic youth + side projects, labradford, "nothing short of total war" comps (inc jesus lizard and all sorts of great stuff), Sun Ra

i dont like everything on mute / novamute / bf but i really respect this group label, having worked with them too. they give everything they do 100%

its weird - on some other techno message boards (overload and e:rave) people criticised Cristian for releasing an album on Novamute, saying he had "sold out". they are one of the only truly independent big labels i know, with a really nice attitude, unlike some cooler ones i could mention.

and danny miller was the man
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+ warm leatherette AMAZING tune.

all the euro 80s electro crew will have covered it, im sure.
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Old 18th March 2002   #30
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Just finished reading Depeche Mode's biography and Mr Miller did come across as someone who believes in what he does and does it well and he's not afraid of taking chances. Too many labels tend to stick to the same old genre/formula so you know what you're getting when you buy a record of it. Mute covers that wide a musical base, it can be anything. As I found when getting hold of a Nick Cave album.... thought it would be warped electronic stuff and it was... well.... I dunno. Never mind eh, better luck next time ....
 
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