C-SOUND or MAX-MSP ???

[syt]

Hey , does anyone use these programs? if yes , what do think of it?. AND Devine uses Traktor on pc and Max on Mac for LIVE I Talked abit with him on A Festival lately and ofcoz both machines with enough power and ram through a EMI 6|2 and I think a pretty FAT ANALOG MAKIE MIXER ?! ;) realy coool style he has !!!lol

Another friend is now at university [or so] in Essen GERMANY and SWEARS on C-SOUND , he said on the campus everyone is crazy about c-sound and that they could make anysound [or so] with it ?! well that's enough now. ;) http://www.csounds.com/

[Triptonizer]

hehe, you were at Alive too :D

Max MSP sure is a cool piece of software, can't use it though since I'm on a pc platform; PD (http://www.crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/software.html) is supposedly very similar (from Cycling74's site):
Miller Puckette's Pd is the Max/MSP author's new project to both simplify and extend the system he started working on more than a decade ago. Miller writes, "Pd has two features not (yet) showing up in Max/MSP: first, via Mark Dank's GEM package, Pd can be used for simultaneous computer animation and computer audio. Second, an experimental facility is provided for defining and accessing data structures." Pd runs on Windows NT and the SGI platform; there is also apparently a Linux port.
In a few weeks I'm gonna follow an introductory course on PD at the Gent university.
Meanwhile the new modular software from Plogue called Bidule (http://www.plogue.com/bidule/) is fun enough to keep me busy (check out the spectral 'bidules' !! )

[syt]

cool one that bidule I tried it already some time ago very nice idea I think. The max-msp and cycling74 is +- same stuff or? but Like i said I think C-sound must be realy cool and me to I'm a PC-Man since I come from C-64 hehe! mac is to expensive realy but it's a small firm getting bigger now since they ate up Logic!"should get cheaper soon (but i don't think so)" I use Cubase "like it more than logic" because I find they do easyer interface for non-specialist-users like me but I LOVE EXS from logic and the audio possibilities from LIVE I find that the real cool audio/midi device for MAC or PC doesn't exist "yet!" I HOPE, but we have to be happy of what there is! :)


and , did ya her us play 23:00 o'clock on friday 26 at alive (ana l. intrudr) hehe? curious me. liked it?

[020200]

i'm not very into csound, just made some first steps. but i can tell, that max/msp (or pd -> pc) is good for building wierd new audio machines. it's got a graphical interface, so that you don't get lost into code.

csound has a very simple structure. you have 2 files. with the .orc to program you "orchestra" (the soundsources), and with the .sco you program the "score" (what tones are triggered when). csound is some more years older that max, but i'm think (not really sure) that max/msp is based on a csound-similar system.

if you wanna dig deeper, you need one of them, i think.

PS: for PC-users check www.pure-data.org. it' like MAX for PC.

thanks for interest :)

[syt]

gonna check it didn't eaven knew that one!!! lol

[Triptonizer]

Originally posted by syt
The max-msp and cycling74 is +- same stuff or?
max msp and PD for Windows are more or less the same, cycling74 is the company that distributes max (quote on pd above is from their website). Max msp is supposed to be ported to Windows "soon" by the way.......
The software I use the most currently is all from Native Instruments: Reaktor, Absynth, Kontakt...sequenced with Cubase SX; and I haven't thrown out my Micro Moduar just yet :)
and , did ya her us play 23:00 o'clock on friday 26 at alive (ana l. intrudr) hehe? curious me. liked it?
oops sorry, we arrived very late that night, missed that..... what kind of music do you make? songs online somewhere?

Greetz, jan

[syt]

I love them realy kicks ass their stuff met 4 of them at alive but they said they couldn't give free soft hmmmm. unlucky me i'd say but i'll never give up!:D

[c s]

Originally posted by Triptonizer
The software I use the most currently is all from Native Instruments: Reaktor, Absynth, Kontakt...sequenced with Cubase SX

yeah that's the way (of the wyrd)... 8-() lol

[020200]

yeah. reaktor's great to put new ideas into reality. easy and fast. and with a damn good sound!

anybody here messing around with macromedia flash? flash have not many options to manupulate sound, but it is very browser and platform friendly ;)

i think director (shockwave) is more able to do sounds. any experiences? would be very fine.

thanks for listening

[Vlendi]

for Director /shokwave and FFT sound routines, check lepianographique.com and
look for area3 barcelona

[020200]

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[020200]

does anybody know / have any good URLs with good csound-examples? i haven't found any amazing sounds yet, that covers the sound in my head. most things i tried myself just sounds like a retro past-seqeuncer-tangerine dream styled synthesizer, and that not what i call amazing sound....

[syt]

have you seen this tutorial already???csound tutorial by A.S. (http://www.esm.rochester.edu/onlinedocs/allan.cs/)

I'm still looking for some examples and so , and this guy still didn't catched him sorry man soon!

some x-amples are comming here...:

x-amples 1 (http://www.classes.cs.uchicago.edu/archive/2000/spring/CS295/Computing_Resources/Csound/OD_examples/contents.html) x-amples 2 (http://www.sfu.ca/sca/Manuals/Csound/KellerTut/Home.html) x-amples 3 (http://www.harmony-central.com/Computer/research.html) x-amples 4 (http://mitpress.mit.edu/e-books/csound/fpage/pub/csbook/Cascone/) x-amples 5 (http://www.york.ac.uk/inst/mustech/3d_audio/csambi.html)

[mattp]

You might like to the try the following CSound book ..

CSound Book Link (http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0262522616/ref=sr_aps_books_1_1/202-6526636-9537432)

Lots of good stuff. If a little heavy .....

[Vlendi]

www.pianographique.com sorry...