first weekend of smoking ban gone

[goone]

what a doddle
the new smoking ban is great
except for some poor barman in cavan who had his face smashed by a thug

it worked great in dublin tho'

i was at plaid on saturday and the smell in the club was woeful
now that the smoke to hide it is gone

[bencodec]

yeah, i noticed up in NYC they have started burning incense in venues to keep the smell in check.

[emef]

i dont smoke but i like the smokey smell of clubs.
maybe its a pavlovian response after so long
ciggie smoke`n`beer smell = clubs = goodtimes :)
i hope they dont ban public smoking in england, that will leave just beer smell and thats horrible on its own

[grobelaar]

That's pretty funny... ban smoking, suddenly realise how utterly filthy most clubs and pubs really are...

[Yer_Maw]

such a filthy habit.

[FiST]

the rancid smell of humans...mmmmm..lovely.

[goone]

yeh its quite funny alright

nice tho'
clothes dont stink the next day after being out

[iain c]

i think that their trying to embarrass people into not smoking,therefore some people would be getting paranoid to spark up, ITS NOT GOING TO WORK YOU ***** !!

[goone]

no they are trying to protect non smokers

and also it has to be said money

[wheezer]

hey you gotta ban things one step at a time, I say fast food is up next and then it's anyone's guess, maybe alcohol? those beer commercials are pretty darn misleading, after all.

[love_tempo]

Hurray for the ban! It was great in San Francisco, to be able to wear the same jacket the next day without the rotten stink.

Also, it means that being a full-time bar person, musician, dj or such like does not automatically mean dying young of lung cancer anymore.

Furthermore, folk with Asthma, like myself find that it gets much much better almost overnight as there is no damage being done at the weekend.

Now if they can just get people to use bicycles and public transport and ban those trouble-making clouds outright Dublin it will be a great place.

p.s. @goone: you're not graham o'sullivan or mike falvey by any chance? Maybe not, but there aren't too many fanatic music people in Dublin...

[bitch one]

roy castle would still be here today <sniff>

[Jeniffer Mills]

Originally posted by wheezer
hey you gotta ban things one step at a time, I say fast food is up next and then it's anyone's guess, maybe alcohol? those beer commercials are pretty darn misleading, after all.

..Yeah, Europe seems to be in "banmania" now..Alcopops are banned from kids (wich is ok imo) And who knows what comes next..If the americans ban alcohol from the clubs(a fictional thought), i`m sure Europe would say "yes and amen" and do the same.. Then "too loud club music" would be next...

Will this "banning mania" force us to stay at home in the future??

[goone]

no
but i think i know graham
not his mate or anything but he used to work in a record shop called spindizzy (i think thats his second name o'sullivan)
is he mad into italo disco and electronica and stuff

[grobelaar]

REMAIN IN DOORS, DO NOT LEAVE YOUR HOMES, SWITCH ON YOUR INFOTAINMENT UNIT, FURTHER INSTRUCTIONS ON HOW TO PROCEED IN REALITY WILL BE FORTHCOMING...

[phonudja]

whoever asks questions will be SHOT

[wheezer]

well living in a scandinavian country I'm pretty suspicious of this behaviour, seeing as our governments were kind enough to install alcohol monopolies so that we don't drink ourselves to death, for example.

it really fills me with joy to watch those shitkickers slowly crumble under the economic pressure of the eu, but at the same time we have so much more of this retardedness around that I'm sure this is just a rare case of force majeure - for example, one specific part of helsinki can only have their bars open till 2 while all others can have bars open till 4, again because this area is supposedly fraught with people that would just cause too much of a ruckus if they had those crucial two hours more...

[love_tempo]

It's tough to call. In general I don't like the idea of people being told what they can and cannot do without very solid reasons. This I can understand.

However, the comparisons with banning alcohol/clubs are fairly flippant though. After all, when you drink you are definitely not doing any damage to anyone else's liver.

I see it as much more of a case of providing people with freedom from being smoked on than smokers being unduly restricted.

If I was to be so flippant I would suggest that those who advocate for freedom of action in these cases why they do not advocate for the removal of speed limits in cities.

This "the powers that be are restricting my freedom to wantonly harm others," argument doesn't really ring true to me. I would need strong convincing otherwise especially as smokers are still perfectly entitled to do as they please otherwise.

[JE:5]

Now all they have to do is ban cars from the roads, the biggest cause of lung disease..tossers.

[wheezer]

This brings to memory a anecdote I heard about Gorbachev, he wooed married women in Russia (where the stereotype of the women being responsible of womb and stove is alive and well even today) by promising to raise the price of alcohol - the logic was that the men could buy less alcohol, so they would be better to their women.

sure enough, Gorbachev raised the price of alcohol when he had the chance to, several months later most of those women who had applauded him now pleaded with him to lower prices again, their men were drinking just as much so there was even less money in the household, was the only difference to before.

I don't think this mindset and these ways of argumentation are limited to Russia, e.g. you can always argue that a ban of alcohol results in lower alcohol consumption thus lower medical costs, which comes back as a benefit to everyone.

Note also Je:5's comment on the hypocrisy, nice to see the US relaxing laws all around for environmental pollution while placing tougher laws on smoking and cigarettes for health reasons...

[marcel]

Originally posted by wheezer
hey you gotta ban things one step at a time, I say fast food is up next and then it's anyone's guess, maybe alcohol?
bollocks. you can't compare that with the publicsmokingban. you don't harm anyone automatically then you just drink alcohol for example, but you do harm others then you smoke in a pulbic closed room.
you can compare the ban with the law that you're not allowed to drink alc and drive.

for me smoking ban is a good thing as i've never smoked in my life myself and always have to smoke passive then i'm out

[marcel]

Originally posted by love_tempo
It's tough to call. In general I don't like the idea of people being told what they can and cannot do without very solid reasons. This I can understand.

However, the comparisons with banning alcohol/clubs are fairly flippant though. After all, when you drink you are definitely not doing any damage to anyone else's liver.

I see it as much more of a case of providing people with freedom from being smoked on than smokers being unduly restricted.

absolutely



Originally posted by love_tempo

If I was to be so flippant I would suggest that those who advocate for freedom of action in these cases why they do not advocate for the removal of speed limits in cities.

thats the point

[emef]

Originally posted by bitch one
roy castle would still be here today <sniff>

not with that fuckin trumpet playin he wouldn`t ;)

[decadnids]

Originally posted by JE:5
Now all they have to do is ban cars from the roads, the biggest cause of lung disease..tossers.

too true, I am a non-smoker, but can think its pretty obvious that people are effected more by pollution vehicle fumes, than from smoking in "pubs". personally I think it should be up to the owners of the pub / cafe / bar to decided if they want it smoke free or not.

[platinumray]

Originally posted by goone

i was at plaid on saturday and the smell in the club was woeful
now that the smoke to hide it is gone

Yeah, there was some phantom fart specialist at work. The un-smokiness of the place reminded me of an aerobics workout.

I didn’t get too into Plaid at all but I really enjoyed Boiler’s set before hand. My mate Toirse played records after and that was great too.

[goone]

pub
public house
carcinogens
??????????

@P.ray
some of his stuff was good some i didnt like(toirse)
alan played some good stuff

yeh i liked plaid
i have to say i prefer the old stuff
they played nowt off "not for threes" which is my fave
i liked the plus one track they did- never heard them do the defocused stuff before (or never noticed anyhow)

[gunjack]

in strip bars in california, you can not smoke or drink. imagine, there you sit, sober as hell watching some middle aged latina shake here celulite ridden ass to 2live crew as you sip your 10 dollar glass of orange juice and make runs to a little fenced in pen to get your smoke on. GHEY.

[Daddys Girl]

Originally posted by gunjack
in strip bars in california, you can not smoke or drink. imagine, there you sit, sober as hell watching some middle aged latina shake here celulite ridden ass to 2live crew as you sip your 10 dollar glass of orange juice and make runs to a little fenced in pen to get your smoke on. GHEY.

None of that sounds appealing at all... :)

D_G ;o)

[eclairfi]

although getting steaming and watching bootyshaking sounds appealing :D lol

[gunjack]

mmmmmmmmm shaking booties.

[platinumray]

Originally posted by goone

i liked the plus one track they did- never heard them do the defocused stuff before (or never noticed anyhow)

haha, toirse played that just to piss plaid off. he knew people would think that it was them doing an encore. it worked too.

there was plenty of smoking going on back stage btw.

[goone]

ah right
i was near the bar then (as i was for most of the night because
A) i like ale and B) the d'floor was far too smelly for my liking

were they still on the stagey area then?
i must have looked a doorknob nodding my head at the bar
"wow theyre playing some of the plus one stuff never heard them do that before"

[scott confusion]

On the news last night it said they may bring the ban to glasgow... booo
Well actually when i was on holiday last week i hardly smoked atol because i was having so much fun- maybe i would quit if they banned it here.

[goone]

the ban is great

i smoke

the one bad thing is the sneaky joint in a club or pub is gone out the
window now