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Paddy
26th February 2004, 04:14
check it...

http://www.royalacademy.org.uk/files/cat98_circZo0ikU.gif



his charcoal drawings, such as this this one (my favourite), took more than 40 days to finish! he used card that was an inch thick, because he rubbed so much out. when he rubbed through that, he stuck more bits on, so he could go over it.



he has inspired any work i have ever done.

enjoy..........

http://www.leninimports.com/auerbach_biog.html

invisibleplanet
26th February 2004, 09:51
that rubbing-out.erasing.restating.rubbing-out technique is called 'palimpsest'. cheers nik-nak :)
Frank Auerbach is a most kewl living artist.

some friends of mine have been experimenting with that technique for landscapes.

my fave artist is Friedensreich Hundertwasser, artist and architect, b.1928; s.2000 (http://www.guardian.co.uk/obituaries/story/0%2C3604%2C178823%2C00.html)
Hundertwasser & Gaudi (http://www.trindera.pwp.blueyonder.co .uk/Year%207/gaudi_and_hundertwasser.htm)

hippy
26th February 2004, 11:38
wow - i like gaudi's stuff - hadn't realised hundertwasser was influenced by him & i'd never seen the hundertwasser haus before - it's great!

mr franks
26th February 2004, 13:27
my fave artist of the moment - Inka Essenhigh

http://www.artnet.com/ag/fineartthumbnails.asp?aid=5890

i like Auerbach, anyone seen seen the work of Glenn Brown? he reinterperets works by artists like Auerbach and Dali, as well as crap science fiction covers....i think he was a turner prize nominee a few years back.

nothinghere
26th February 2004, 14:01
Jeff Koons
Chris Burden
Damien Hirst
and of course the great Andy Warhol

"took more than 40 days to finish! "
For me time is no longer a gage to judge the value of art work. Sometimes the best work can be done in seconds.

May Kasahara
26th February 2004, 14:03
I like Chuck Close.

mr franks
26th February 2004, 14:05
Originally posted by nothinghere


"took more than 40 days to finish! "
For me time is no longer a gage to judge the value of art work. Sometimes the best work can be done in seconds.

true.

but jeff Koons, i have to say i think he's a bit of a twat.

KaOz
26th February 2004, 14:10
im my fav artist

nothinghere
26th February 2004, 16:30
Originally posted by mr franks


true.

but jeff Koons, i have to say i think he's a bit of a twat.

Ya I can see how people would have that veiw of him, but he is one of the most important artists of time.

komakid
26th February 2004, 16:31
escher rocks !

mr franks
26th February 2004, 16:37
Originally posted by nothinghere


Ya I can see how people would have that veiw of him, but he is one of the most important artists of time.


how do you work that one out then?

karitek
26th February 2004, 16:40
Originally posted by May Kasahara
I like Chuck Close.

there's an exhibit at the Met in NYC on him now. check out the site (http://www.metmuseum.org/special/se_event.asp?OccurrenceId={1A3 760AF-520F-439E-948E-16FAE366A882}&HomePageLink=special_c1a) .

alex cortex
26th February 2004, 16:52
too many good artists to name one best. i find new ones to me all the time. mostly in exhibitions of local artists still less reknown. this one here surely is reknown.

http://www.htokai.ac.jp/DA/hvass/seminar99/zen_aesthetics/images/hisamatsu_l_images/Sesshu.jpg

toyo sesshu, landcape in hatsuboku style, japan, 1495. one of the most famous works of that period and style.

lately, zen painting with its whole literary surrounding, covering time from 13th to 19th century has been a great influence to my work.


about the aforementioned aspect of time and its influence on the value of a piece of art: of course there is none. there are great examples for both long and short processes of creation.

once i saw an exhibition (sorry, can“t recall the name of the artist) of blocks of layers of paint that were produced within a period of years each item (parallel of course). every layer had to dry out some days before the next one could be put on top of it. the interesting thing about it is, that if it would turn into a fashion, it would take the ones trying to exploit it years to get to the finished piece. apart from that, the pieces were of a stunning beauty.

nothinghere
26th February 2004, 17:23
Originally posted by mr franks



how do you work that one out then?

Well alot of what he does realy pisses people off and they overlook the importance of his work. He is a contemporary Duchamp.

invisibleplanet
26th February 2004, 19:22
Marcel Duchamp stopped making art at one point to indulge himself in the exploration of his favourite hobby, which was chess, at competition level.

WON'T DO IT
26th February 2004, 19:26
I like Beryl Cook.

karitek
26th February 2004, 19:57
Originally posted by nothinghere


Well alot of what he does realy pisses people off and they overlook the importance of his work. He is a contemporary Duchamp.

yeah, his work is definitely influenced by Duchamp. but he has not had the same impact on art history as a whole as Duchamp's introductions of ready mades did.

emef
26th February 2004, 20:20
i really like tim noble and sue webster
their piles of rubbish with lights shining on em, creating a perfect silhoette of the artists, a few years ago really hooked me.
(dirty white trash with gulls and miss understood and mr meanor)
their 'new barbarians' i liked too.

i wrote to them a couple of years ago saying how much i liked their 'dirty white trash' piece and they sent me loads of show catalogues,postcards and posters, how nice is that? i was well chuffed.

Weishaupt
26th February 2004, 20:22
nik nak:

this is beautiful..
i like that kind of art..

spanx for that link!

grobelaar
26th February 2004, 20:27
Originally posted by invisibleplanet
Marcel Duchamp stopped making art at one point to indulge himself in the exploration of his favourite hobby, which was chess, at competition level.

The man himself at his Max Ernst chessboard

http://www.chessmate.com/images/MarcelDuchamp.jpg

Funny game for an artist to play if you ask me - I find the game structures the mind too heavily, relying on the player's ability to simply think so many moves ahead - the more move and countermoves you can work out in your head the better you are.

Go is a far more fluid game and allows for more artistry in its play...

In fact Go is the greatest game ever made...

sensymilia
26th February 2004, 21:32
Tomasz Garczewski aka Tomash Gee....he is my favourite artist... he is also my great friend...

...::: www.muszaron.z.pl :::...

dSort
26th February 2004, 21:47
Pollock,Schiele,Shulz

hippy
26th February 2004, 23:00
jean michel-basquiat's a favourite of mine.
also martin kippenberger did some really funny/great stuff, everything seemed to set him off on a creative frenzy - i think he even made a record or two

great thread nik-nak, made me go through a load of stuff i hadn't looked at for years... ta!
:)

baba
26th February 2004, 23:04
Duchamp is still my most favourite precision oculist.
Koons is interesting but he ain't no modern day Duchamp.

nothinghere
26th February 2004, 23:05
Originally posted by karitek


yeah, his work is definitely influenced by Duchamp. but he has not had the same impact on art history as a whole as Duchamp's introductions of ready mades did.

I agree. I would even say no artist, with the exception of Andy Warhol, has had a large an impact on art as Duchamp. During his hiatus from art, Duchamp would stand up on a chair and drop a piece of string on the ground and proclaim he had made enough art for the day.

baba
26th February 2004, 23:17
Actually my favourite artist at the moment is a 17yr old AS student from Bristol called Jessica Pinnock. Yesterday she showed me her latest work - the most sensitive, beautiful and hauntingly macabre piece of video art I have seen for ages anywhere. Gave me goosebumps and made me want to cry outa pride.

karitek
27th February 2004, 00:01
baba - what was it like? i've never seen video art that multi-dimensional. i'm intrigued.

7875
27th February 2004, 00:36
Hieronymus Bosch, Albrecht Durer, Yves Tanguy, Robert Rauschenberg, Pablo Picasso, M.C. Escher.

Paddy
27th February 2004, 02:44
Originally posted by emef
i really like tim noble and sue webster
their piles of rubbish with lights shining on em, creating a perfect silhoette of the artists, a few years ago really hooked me.


i love their work too.

Paddy
27th February 2004, 03:02
Originally posted by nothinghere


"took more than 40 days to finish! "
For me time is no longer a gage to judge the value of art work. Sometimes the best work can be done in seconds.

this is true, but i was merely pointing out the fact that the sitter would have to sit on their arse all day, everyday, for forty days, while he continually drew them, rubbed them out, drew them... etc etc. it must've got pretty frustrating!

i've been trying to find a picture of his studio, which is truly a sight to behold. 40 years worth of scraped off paint completely drowning every square foot of space, no matter what was in that space to begin with. its something like a foot deep in places. looks kinda like multicoloured bird shit.

anyway, this is lovely...

http://www.tdeansco.com/contemporary/exhibit-autumn/images/Auerbach-Julia.jpg

freshmint
27th February 2004, 07:22
Originally posted by hippy
[B]hundertwasser ...B]


...very hippy . prefer gaudi, more useful.

May Kasahara
27th February 2004, 13:16
Originally posted by karitek


there's an exhibit at the Met in NYC on him now. check out the site (http://www.metmuseum.org/special/se_event.asp?OccurrenceId={1A3 760AF-520F-439E-948E-16FAE366A882}&HomePageLink=special_c1a) .

Oooh, you lucky thing. Seeing his work 'in the flesh' is like having a bucket of cold water thrown over your brain - it made all my nerve endings thrill.

nothinghere
27th February 2004, 14:48
Also a fan of Keifer's 40 years of bad paintings

baba
27th February 2004, 23:30
Originally posted by karitek
baba - what was it like? i've never seen video art that multi-dimensional. i'm intrigued.

She filmed it at about five in the morning - a big effort when you are 16. She made this sort of floppy dead body shaped thing from stuffed tights and walked to a playing field near where she lived and tied it to the top of the wire fence (v big effort). She filmed it statically- in silhouette as the sun rose behind it (quiet piano music). Then (piano stops - slience) slowly the camera rose up towards the sky. The sky gradually - almost imperceptably changed colour - fading from blue to pink to purple. Lasts about 4 mins.

The title of her project brief was 'the urban landscape'. She made this as a response firstly to urban crime (logical) which then led on to her thinking about the plight of young men in prison and the high level of suicides in this group that has been reported in the news of late. Inspired by her research in the work of Louise Bourgoise and a memory of her own of a man jumping from Clifton Suspension Bridge when Jess was 8. All combined she has made a strangely mysterious, subtle yet compelling and uplifting work. Heavy stuff but not at all naive or naff - that so much adoloscent art can be.
Think - this is for the first term of her A level - she is not even a year after gcse.