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lucid rinehead
18th June 2002, 10:01
what does eveybody think about that then? who was using it? i did occasionally but not much cause of my crap dial-up at home.

stefanm
18th June 2002, 12:08
It's pretty sad. It was the best way to get the obscure unavailable tracks, and a good way to listen-before-you-buy. Wonder how long Soulseek will last.

amble
18th June 2002, 12:17
a real shame it is. i used it from time to time to download remixes and stuff that wasn't worth enough buying.

why was it closed? they don't write anything on their site do they?:(

V Knid esq
18th June 2002, 12:32
I don't think its closed - they are making it subscription only, aparrently - but many many tracks are getting blocked.

try www.limewire.com
www.winmx.com
www.xolox.nl
www.kazaa.com

lucid rinehead
18th June 2002, 13:48
they have agreed that they will only allow sharing of songs when they have explicit permission to do so from the label, as opposed to the old system where the copyright owner could opt songs out.

apparently it doesn't affect groups though...

c s
18th June 2002, 14:54
when using kazaa better choose kazaa lite without banners & spyware.

M H
18th June 2002, 15:19
quite interesting seeing the attitude people are taking on other forums about this.....
check it (http://www.overloadmedia.co.uk/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=general&action=display&num=1024389063)

KaOz
18th June 2002, 16:11
sucks man...always uncomplete crapp ... :/

la la la ...save the vinyl

sometimes i use it for some comercial tracks....for my mother..or dad e.t.c


;)

Loz
18th June 2002, 17:17
www.edonkey2000.com is good - if you can get on a server, that is.

karitek
18th June 2002, 18:31
the whole thing is really annoying. audiogalaxy had the best selection of electronic music of any of the sites. :(

i just think that this whole attack on mp3s seems to be quite pointless - new sites similar to audiogalaxy or napster will continue to appear. and, plus i think cdrs are the main reason for the decrease in album sales, not mp3s.

grumble, grumble...i'm gonna miss it!!

JE:5
18th June 2002, 21:57
Fuckin' bastards with their crosses that say " sorry you can't download this" why the fuck are they still up and running? even my traxx have crosses next to them! I didn't say they could stop people from downloading my traxx, can I sue them??

Loz
18th June 2002, 22:19
you know the RIAA tried to ban cdrs, too?

Unsuccessful, thankfully, because someone pointed out that they do actually have a legitimate use other than to copy music.

If anything, I think mp3s have increased music purchasing. Sales have gone continuously upward over the past 5 years, so I'm unsure where they're losing this money from... perhaps it's all the lawyers they're paying for to take people like Napster to court?

karitek
19th June 2002, 01:36
Originally posted by Loz
If anything, I think mp3s have increased music purchasing.

i agree...and i think that audiogalxy's format really aided that. there are loads of lesser known artists/labels/etc that i checked out because some user who had loads of tracks i liked had them recommended on their info page.

M H
19th June 2002, 02:31
Maybe it's the fact that not so many people are buying mainstream bollocks and actually listening to new music that isn't covered by the autoraties surveys of what music is being bought......

Daddys Girl
19th June 2002, 21:28
I never actually used AudioGalaxy, but I've heard that it is (or was I guess) pretty good.

Imesh.com is pretty good I reckon. It's what I turned to after Napster and I've never been dissapointed.
You can find loads of stuff on it - I got a-hold of "House of Jealous Lovers" by the Rapture last Sunday which made me smile.

Anywho, happy searching

D_G ;o)

Yer_Maw
20th June 2002, 17:05
audiogalaxy... gone... noooooo... my broadband will never be the same again.

amble
20th June 2002, 17:20
i still don't get why theyre closed. i thought lawyers couldn't do any harm against p2p-systems. what's going on in this world? :(

grobelaar
20th June 2002, 18:52
Right I've been trolling this board long enough, so thought I'd give my tuppence worth about Audiogalaxy and P2P filesharing... Hi everyone...

Here is the not too easy to find post on Audiogalaxy announcing what has happened...

http://www.audiogalaxy.com/pages/thread.php?&t=21201125

and here's my tuppence... (well it's a couple of quids worth really...)

Audiogalaxy.com and the RIAA and NMPA reached and out of court settlement on Monday, which essentially reverses how audiogalaxy works, so all songs are now locked, until their 'copyright' owner sends notification (and doubtless an invoice) to Audiogalaxy allowing them to be unlocked...

Hmmm, when is the RIAA and its pals gonna realise that their problem lies with a coincidence of emerging audio compression technologies, and a general increase in the speed and ease with which people may transfer files over the internet. This problem is not going to go away, there are still people out there with computers filled with mp3s, it is the ease with which they can be hooked up via the internet that is the problem. They can clamp down on as many filesharing services as they like, people will still swap music, illegal or not.

I don't condone theft, and I want to see artists rewarded for their work, but there is a considerable difference between rewarding artists and the vast profits of the recording industry. Unless the RIAA realises that technology has moved on, and that there stranglehold grip on the rights to own and distribute music is over, then they are going to become extinct.

Personally, I think the record industry goes too far, sure they're a business and we live in a capitalist society. But music as a form of human art and expression has been around for thousands of years, the RIAA aims to put all of it under lock and key as well as dictating what is and with no other agenda other than financial. Who is at fault here, the thousands of people who want to enhance their lives with music or the people who have systematically over the last 50 years turned that right into a money making venture... Technological changes mean something needs to be done which is more inkeeping with this spirit...

Bye, bye 'record' industry, hello 'music' industry...

kungfoo
20th June 2002, 21:58
good 2 know, that there still exist independent record labels. good 2 know, that there are musicians,who still work to express them selves and not for profit. and good 2 know that after one filesharing system dies, there grow 2 others, like the legendary hydra. RIAA can not shut down the internet, they can not stop mp3s from being spread. it's sad, that with audiogalaxy dies a system, which offered a rich amount of rare tunes, live- and dj-sets. but there are always other ways ...

CLR
21st June 2002, 22:03
I feel homeless without my audiogalaxy ... still cannot find the right replacement for it i'm trying winmx and kazaa lite but i'm totally disappointed.
Mr kung foo can you tell me what are you using as a replacement?

If anyone manages to find something which replaces audiogalaxy adequately please inform us ... i think that quite a few of us can enrich the system with their mp3's if we join as well ay.

xxxclairexxx

darnymarfy
22nd June 2002, 00:37
indeed...i'm bewildered by the seemingly vast array of peer 2 peer clients and i can't be arsed to download loads of software and test it

i've heard stuff about some clients containing dodgy spyware etc. and kazaa being evil etc

my brain can't handle all this computer nonsense

M H
22nd June 2002, 02:49
Peer sharing servers are like drug dealers... as soon as they clamp down on one, another will be there soon enough to take it's place...

lucid rinehead
24th June 2002, 09:57
although i don't know any specifics about most of the individual P2P networks, my method of avoiding scary software is to only use open source clients...

OpenAG-X and Sputnix were (are) much better than the official AG client, leaving aside the fact that there was no official client for the mac.

Yoss
24th June 2002, 16:46
hi,

someone said to me the alternate way is here:

http://www.blubster.com

its based on spain so maybe RIAA could not afect them.

We´ll see, this kind of anarchy makes internet a nice place :)

bye,

Yoss

Peezee
24th June 2002, 18:01
I'm not to worried about the whole AudioGalaxy thing. Even before napster, the computer nerdz had been mp3 swapping with Hotline and other ftp programs, and now that P2P has taken off, there are tons of options.

What I don't like is that the popularity of these P2P's set off red flags to all the major record labels, and now they're trying to ruin all forms of internet music - not just MP3's and P2P's. With current debates in US Congress on licensing fees for the transmission of copyrighted material, this could be the end for sites like Betalounge and most streaming radio stations. Basically any non-commercial site will probably not be able to afford offering streaming radio or dj mixes due to the fees. More info at:

http://www.saveinternetradio.org/

Peezee
24th June 2002, 19:34
PS- my opinions expressed above are from a rather america-centric viewpoint. I'm not sure how these laws will be affecting international sites- anybody have a clue on this? Are similar laws coming into play in Europe?

erik_s
28th June 2002, 08:33
i think mp3's a great way of finding out what kind of music you want to explore and buy (i never acutally used ag). mp3 will never compete with cds and records because of the lacking quallity.

Peezee
28th June 2002, 18:59
i agree completely with you erik.

there was actually a radio talk show on chicago public radio discussing internet music, record labels, and the industry. and during this show it was revealed that contrary to what major labels would have you believe- since the dawn of napster and the billions of mp3 downloads, there has not been a significant downward turn in album sales at all. the only statistics that did show a downward turn was for cd-singles (a four percent drop), and there have been less cd-singles coming out anyhow- so that may have something to do with it.