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[soulcheck]

Anybody seen it yet? Is it any good?

[Orang Utan]

was gonna check it out at the imax but it's sold out til next year

[emef]

i've seen the trailer a few times, looks a bit shit

[les diamond]

yea looks pretty fucking dumb all right.

[soulcheck]

same impression here

[les diamond]

i don't get how this fucking james cameron can not see his "vision" is like smurf village on steroids, after the first few renders, and go: "ok scrap everything let's hit the bar".


i want some of what james cameron has been smoking.

[urphae]

avatar was awesome. Went with the kids last w/e.

Anyone else find them hot?

[Orang Utan]

avatar was awesome. Went with the kids last w/e.

Anyone else find them hot?

are you trying to pimp your kids on us?
shame on you

[soulcheck]

avatar was awesome. Went with the kids last w/e.

Anyone else find them hot?

photos or GTFO!

[emef]

are you trying to pimp your kids on us?
shame on you

lol

[Spandex]

I mean, who spends millions on stupid posh motioncapture 3D future engine and then is such a cheesy, unimaginative bell-end that the best thing they can think of to do with it is paint someone blue.

And all the footage I've seen looks like cutscenes from a game.

I'll prolly go see it anyway.

[urphae]

Hi Rob,

My kids are hot. I am pimping them out. OR... Maybe I said them female aliens are hot?

Dont go there ginger fella

[Orang Utan]

a mate saw the trailer at an IMAX and said he found himself grinning.
youtube trailers of cgifests always look crap
positive review here: http://www.screendaily.com/5008859.article

[urphae]

Great! And your comment about my kids???

a mate saw the trailer at an IMAX and said he found himself grinning.
youtube trailers of cgifests always look crap
positive review here: http://www.screendaily.com/5008859.article

[Orang Utan]

what of it?

[Loz]

Rob is a ginger. They don't understand social norms about being open about fancying someone else's kids.

The rest of us at least keep it under wraps.

[urphae]

Dont people mind? Old man of the forest indeed hehe

[Hectic Cum Balthazar]

james cameron blows goats

[Orang Utan]

Dont people mind? Old man of the forest indeed hehe

sense of humour FAIL

[urphae]

So anyway. Does no one else have a strange fetish for the pandora women?

really?

[Laszlo]

pandora?????? WTF
Cameron is a stupid cunt

[don___quixote]

So anyway. Does no one else have a strange fetish for the pandora women?

really?


I'd rather fuck Smurfette - now there's a real lady.

re: Avatar: bag o' shite is the first and lasting impression that i intend to take to my grave even if i catch it on the sly one christmas post lobotomy and think its actually quite good.

[thembuzz]

it's not going to be a fucking arthouse masterpiece, is it? stop angsting about it and just fucking enjoy the fancy pictures

[Hectic Cum Balthazar]

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_DSJ6k0NtoAo/R_WlllNyIdI/AAAAAAAAASU/3xR_thKOWaE/s400/bush-gay3way-web.jpg

Berlusconi ----------------- Cameron ------------------ Andy

[thembuzz]

every time you watch a hollywood blockbuster a puppy is shot up the arse

[Hectic Cum Balthazar]

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2004/06/13/nyregion/thecity/movi583.jpg

have you seen what a 44 Magnum can do to a <strike>pussy</strike> puppy?

[les diamond]

i watched this trailer out of curiosity:

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those blue ppl with huge eyes look SO dumb. and every other creature on planet "pandora" is blue too???? like all creatures on earth are the same color????? dumb

[Burnibus]

I think avatar is more than anything a sort of proof of concept for him regarding his motion capture engine and new 3d Digital cameras. i think the cfact that all the humans in it are CGI (although its really hard to tell) means you dont get that really wrong difference between real people and CGI folk (like jar jar)

Bottom line is, its got flying things, and lots of guns and aliens and is in super duper 3d, that sounds greta to me. And if it goes well Battle angel is more likely to be finished and that is a great thing.

[soulcheck]

i watched this trailer out of curiosity:

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those blue ppl with huge eyes look SO dumb. and every other creature on planet "pandora" is blue too???? like all creatures on earth are the same color????? dumb

There was one yellowish flying thing

[les diamond]

yea man, yellow, with that same blue in patches. i mean he just basically stylized everything WAY too much for me to ever suspend disbelief.... like "god" or "nature" would ever come up with animals/humanoids that were all based on the same color scheme. dumb.

[les diamond]

I think avatar is more than anything a sort of proof of concept for him regarding his motion capture engine and new 3d Digital cameras. i think the cfact that all the humans in it are CGI (although its really hard to tell) means you dont get that really wrong difference between real people and CGI folk (like jar jar)

Bottom line is, its got flying things, and lots of guns and aliens and is in super duper 3d, that sounds greta to me. And if it goes well Battle angel is more likely to be finished and that is a great thing.


in 3 or 5 years from now this movie will look like this to us:

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[les diamond]

all the humans in it are CGI (although its really hard to tell)


not that fucking hard:

http://moviesmedia.ign.com/movies/image/article/101/1016123/avatar-20090820032811087_640w.jpg

[Spandex]

it's not going to be a fucking arthouse masterpiece, is it?

Nah, but then Wall-E, The Matrix, Kung Fu Hustle, Toy Story, Aliens etc etc aren't arthouse masterpieces either are they? They're just good, popular films.

stop angsting about it and just fucking enjoy the fancy pictures

I think that's the point... I'm not quite achingly lowbrow enough to be able to enjoy it just because it's got a massive budget and appeals to people who'd presumably be satisfied with a kaleidoscope full of smurfs.

I genuinely think it's going to a really shit film. But I'm probably going to see it anyway because I want to see something 3D. Probably the best way to go see sommat like this... it can only turn out better than I'm expecting :)

[Burnibus]

I dunno for CGI humans they look pretty good to me. better than final fantasy and all that rubbish.

anyhoo, im gonna go watch it, cos i like guns and sci fi and have not yet seen a 3D film yet (can you believe it) and by all accounts the 3d in this is supposed to be great. And ill say it again Battle angel.

[soulcheck]

... i think the cfact that all the humans in it are CGI (although its really hard to tell).

Aren't humans played by actors? I mean I can't a source mentioning it's 100% CGI.

[soulcheck]

I mean 100% CGI = motion capture + computer rendering instead of video manipulation

[les diamond]

`The whole thing, I believe, is CGI, though some of it is motion captured humans. Like Sin City, everything that is on the screen at any point in the movie has gone through, at minimum, a digital filter, and at maximum, was never “real” in the first place.´

James Cameron says: "Avatar is the single most complex piece of filmmaking ever made. We have 1,600 shots for a 2.5 hour movie. It’s not with a single CGI character, like King Kong or Gollum. We have hundreds of photo-realistic CG characters."

[Burnibus]

yeah my understanding was that they captured the motion of the actors and mapped their face and facial expressions then recreated these real movements and motion inside the 3d virtual world they created, therefore there is not difference between avatar peeps and human peeps in the way that they interact with their environment.

[kams]

i hate that bloke for loads of reasons..

[Orang Utan]

hehe

[Yer_Maw]

i have a feeling the 3d will be pish on anything other than imax.

Saw up in 3d and cant say it was very impressive for it. There was depth of field but i bet the bigger screen expands it big time.

[Orang Utan]

yeah, i saw up on the huge screen at the empire in leicester square, but imax would have certainly been more impressive

[Hectic Cum Balthazar]

james cameron blows goats

[don___quixote]

3d will be pish on anything other than imax.



what about acid?
i'm betting it'll be good on acid.

[thembuzz]

yea man, yellow, with that same blue in patches. i mean he just basically stylized everything WAY too much for me to ever suspend disbelief.... like "god" or "nature" would ever come up with animals/humanoids that were all based on the same color scheme. dumb.

"suspend disbelief"? how the fuck are you ever gonna suspend disbelief with something like that? it looks like complete fucking bullshit. looks like a laugh too

[thembuzz]

james cameron's a fucking shitehawk. his films are total bollocks. he made the least interesting episode of the alien series. he's always been about big bangs, special effects and very little else. always. even when you were allowed to like him. but big bangs and special effects are great. they can work. they can push the buttons. they can be fun to watch

it's a film, not a fucking iq test. some films are purely edifying, some films are purely entertaining. there's room for both and all points in between. do you lot wrinkle your noses at people eating crisps as well? shut up

[les diamond]

i like crisps erm potatoe chips we call them. i like a macdonalds burger once in a while too. but avatar is still smurf villiage on steroids.

[Yer_Maw]

Terminator 2 for fucks sake.

[don___quixote]

thank you Jesus for the crisps.

[les diamond]

in 3 or 5 years from now this movie will look like this to us:

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seriously.

[thembuzz]

Terminator 2 for fucks sake.

and utter bollocks it was. but that didn't stop it being brilliant

jesus, no-one ever starts threads on here about hollyoaks, do they? that shit wank fucking nadir of all human endeavour is on every day, poisoning minds, ruining culture, basically driving this country into the ground, and we're all getting het up about some stupid hollywood cg porn that most people will go and see at a multiplex and promptly forget about. it's a wank. it's a big fucking wank in the cinema. get over it

[les diamond]

wtf andy? bad day at the pub?

[Spandex]

jesus, no-one ever starts threads on here about hollyoaks, do they? that shit wank fucking nadir of all human endeavour is on every day, poisoning minds, ruining culture, basically driving this country into the ground

I think it'd be helpful if you made a chart with all the culture on it and clearly marked the line between "just entertainment, don't ask too much of it" and "terrible wank that really should be better".

I'm struggling with N-Dubz.

[thembuzz]

the line is between stuff that i, personally, don't mind, and stuff that i, personally, do mind

[Loz]

n-dubz is in, then Steev

[Orang Utan]

james cameron told an acquaintance of mine that the best place to see avatar in the uk is in the odeon leicester square cos of some 3d technology jiggery pokery it has.

[Laszlo]

what about acid?
i'm betting it'll be good on acid.

my old shoe manky would be quite good on acid.

[Burnibus]

Buzz you are right about hollyoaks and sort of right about cameron, other then the fact that aliens is awesome. least interesting my @rse have you seen alien ressurection? not even wynona ryder could make that good and i love looking at her.

I think cameron is awesome, i like pretty much all the films i have seen of his (other then titanic) and i reckon im gonna love this and im gonna love battle angel.

[Orang Utan]

aliens is a bit pony compared to alien
in fact, aliens is a good example of what's shit about about cameron, when you look at it alongside alien.

[Burnibus]

well yeah its a very different kind of film to alien. But then compare alien to galdiator and you see Ridley scott going wrong. infact ridley scott has done some terrible pish, body of lies????

Aliens is superb, its no super thinking suspense thriller, but as a sci fi action movie its one of the best there is, name one thats better (sci fi action that is)

[Yer_Maw]

domino

[Orang Utan]

well yeah its a very different kind of film to alien. But then compare alien to galdiator and you see Ridley scott going wrong. infact ridley scott has done some terrible pish, body of lies????

Aliens is superb, its no super thinking suspense thriller, but as a sci fi action movie its one of the best there is, name one thats better (sci fi action that is)

alien is probably scott's only perfect film. he's pure shite now for sure.
predator is better than aliens.

[mr franks]

predator 2 is better than Aliens.

http://www.zuguide.com/image/Danny-Glover-Predator-2.1.jpg

[platinum ray]

Predator is one of the best movies ever made. FACT

[Brownthing]

The music in predator is particuarly boss.

[Burnibus]

predator is not better than aliens in any way, neither in acting, concept, or action. I like predator but one of the best things about it is the joke they tell in the helicopter.

Aliens has exactly what im looking for in scifi action.

in fact at Morrisons you can get all the Aliens films, all the predator films and the two alien vs predator films in one box set for £6. Im well up for that as i dont own Alien or predator 2

[Brownthing]

That was a golden age of blockbusters wasn't it:
Die Hard, Predator,Aliens,Total recall etc..

Why can't they make films that are popular but good anymore. Is it because the money people wont let anything get an 18 certificate these days so it's all a bit watered down?

[les diamond]

avatar reminds me of waterworld or battlefield earth.... movie makers who lose perspective completely during the process until the final cut, then have to justify spendin gazillions of dollars on a steaming pile of poo.

[les diamond]

The music in predator is particuarly boss.


yup.

[les diamond]

the sequels sucked, but nothing tops the original:

http://findmearobot.com/Pages/Required%20robots/Images/RoboCop.jpg


now THAT was a blockbuster i can still sink my teeth into!


http://www.thefader.com/ys_assets/0001/7974/buyfordollar_main.jpg
"I'd buy that for a dollar"




http://profile.ak.fbcdn.net/object2/80/22/n5045290955_7267.jpg
"Can you fly, Bobby?"

[Burnibus]

see it wasnt just action stuff as well, the comedy blockbusters from the eighties are standout.

scrooged, Dirty rotten scoundrels, brewsters millions, trading places, planes trains and automobiles etc....

see it does seem like maybe we are all getting old but when i watch them again they are just genuinly higher quality than the modern bromance nonsense

[Orang Utan]

predator is not better than aliens in any way, neither in acting, concept, or action. I like predator but one of the best things about it is the joke they tell in the helicopter.

Aliens has exactly what im looking for in scifi action.

in fact at Morrisons you can get all the Aliens films, all the predator films and the two alien vs predator films in one box set for £6. Im well up for that as i dont own Alien or predator 2

aliens is too long and doesn't have enough funny

[Burnibus]

Plenty of funny for me and a great length (oh dear)

the last scene where ripley goes back to get newt is awesome. She is just super badass and i like seeing a woman action hero for a change, she was one of the first great ones.

But its all horses for courses really. i still love predator, and many of the other movies mentioned above but to say aliens is shit is wrong. Aliens is great.

I evene really like True Lies but thats a different story

[emef]

just saw the avatar feature on film2009, it looks worse than i initially thought
reminds me of everything that was wrong with the new star wars films

[soulcheck]

That was a golden age of blockbusters wasn't it:
Die Hard, Predator,Aliens,Total recall etc..

Why can't they make films that are popular but good anymore. Is it because the money people wont let anything get an 18 certificate these days so it's all a bit watered down?

Obviously you aren't following the news:

http://www.theexpendablesmovie.net/

[soulcheck]

It's missing Willis though.

[soulcheck]

Ah, it isn't after all ;P

[Orang Utan]

i foresee a lot of prolapsed discs and broken hips

[Spandex]

just saw the avatar feature on film2009, it looks worse than i initially thought
reminds me of everything that was wrong with the new star wars films

It got absolutely fucking panned on Front Row.

But still I find myself wanting to go see it at an IMAX.. just for the spectacle. Ideally I want someone to bring an IMAX to my house, show me about 20 mins of posh 3D stuff.. then take it all away again without anyone getting to think they earned any of my money/time. In fact, James Cameron should pay me to watch it.

And he should apologise every time I whince at the awful dialog.

In fact he should kneel and apologise all the fucking way through.. mumbling like a catholic murderer fingering a rosary... "I'M SORRY I MADE THEM BLUE. I'M SORRY I MADE THEM BLUE. IT'S GEORGE LUCAS'S FAULT. THOUGH, OBVIOUSLY I ACCEPT FULL RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE APPALLING TRAVESTY I'VE CREATED HERE. SORRY. SORRY I MADE THEM BLUE"

[Burnibus]

When in fact what he will do is sit in his own home, fingering billions of dollars in hard cash whilst saying "HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHA i made them blue and they still paid me. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA"

[Yer_Maw]

yes got tickets for the imax in glasgow. w00t.

[Hectic Cum Balthazar]

Aliens is superb, its no super thinking suspense thriller, but as a sci fi action movie its one of the best there is, name one thats better (sci fi action that is)

Empire Strikes Back?

[Orang Utan]

fucking boring

[Hectic Cum Balthazar]

I feel like I've invoked the Sci-fi version of Godwins law.

[Orang Utan]

no, that's when someone (ok, me) pipes up and says that flash gordon is better

[Hectic Cum Balthazar]

I almost went for that.

[don___quixote]

the questions i would like to pose to all the aliens haters is :

did you always think it was shite? i used to think it was amazing.. so it still has merits in my book. no blade runner tho.

[Hectic Cum Balthazar]

yeah I loved both Aliens and Blade Runner as an 11 year old.

I still like Blade Runner.

[don___quixote]

i reckon if i was 11 now i'd still think Roid_smurfs looked shit.

[Hectic Cum Balthazar]

i reckon if i was 11 now i'd still think Roid_smurfs looked shit.

Aye, it looks like it was specifically aimed at 11 year olds too, which is the first mistake. Kids want to watch films like Aliens where everything is dressed up like an adults film, when really it's just star wars with gore and swear words.

[les diamond]

empre strikes back was the best star wars movie if only for the fact that the bad guys win.

[thembuzz]

Buzz you are right about hollyoaks and sort of right about cameron, other then the fact that aliens is awesome. least interesting my @rse have you seen alien ressurection? not even wynona ryder could make that good and i love looking at her.

I think cameron is awesome, i like pretty much all the films i have seen of his (other then titanic) and i reckon im gonna love this and im gonna love battle angel.

aliens is brilliant, no doubt, but i still think it's the least interesting. it's all just big bangs and shouting, where 1 and 3 are all tension and claustrophobia, and 4 is fucking nuts and french

[proober glombat]

The music in predator is particuarly boss.
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[Burnibus]

i watched Alien 3 last night. and there is tension but there also alot of pap.

Its a long way below the first two on the quality scale, a long long way.

I will go for empire strikes back being better, but its well different innit, all for the kids and super advanced galaxies, where as aliens is nasty nasty nasty gritty marine combat goodness.

Blade runner is awesome but its not really an action movie. just well suspensful

[Brownthing]

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lol wicked

[urphae]

Aliens are hot. Thread Ends.

[soulcheck]

Yeah, I liked and still like Aliens. Different film from Alien.

It gets bonus points for the fact that it DIDN'T GET OLD unlike the original.

[Burnibus]

and has ripley using a loader as a mech suit to have a fist fight with the queen. just awesome.

[soulcheck]

even robot jox was a good movie cause it had mechs in it.

[Spandex]

and has ripley using a loader as a mech suit to have a fist fight with the queen. just awesome.

yeah right. next thing you'll be claiming the Reichstag fire was "really good".

[Burnibus]

Nazi oppression and destruction of the reichs constitution in order to begin a regime of terror and racially motivated murder is only very slightly like sigourny weaver punching an alien in the face.

[les diamond]

what about THX1138?

obviously looks dated etc but that is part of it's charm, no? the fucking story stands up better than most new shit like "surrogates" or avatar.....

[Burnibus]

THX1138

is ok, but its hardly an action movie, there are alot of white walls and some running, thats about it. I do like it though.

[Orang Utan]

george lucas added a load of cgi to the dvd release which displeased many fans

[Spandex]

hehehe.. sounds like a wikipedia entry.

[les diamond]

george lucas added a load of cgi to the dvd release which displeased many fans


yea i saw that version it sucked donkey balls

[Dal-tech]

Don't get fairy's and dragons vs robots and machine guns. Can't get over the cat ears. Do they eat cat food? Actually there have been reports of blue aliens in regards to UFOs.

[thembuzz]

i watched Alien 3 last night. and there is tension but there also alot of pap.

Its a long way below the first two on the quality scale, a long long way.



it's not as good as the first one. i think i prefer it to the second one, though. it's all about the hopelessness and despair. i love that shit

[aleks]

http://foolishblatherings.files.wordp ress.com/2009/11/total_recall.jpg

[The Physicist]

even robot jox was a good movie cause it had mechs in it.

haha, man i used to LOVE that film when i was wee. I also concur about alien and Aliens, both good.

But avatar does look paap. and i dread the total recall remake.

[The Physicist]

oh and predator is up there too.

[emef]

fucking sci-fi geeks

[The Physicist]

fucking right

[Orang Utan]

http://foolishblatherings.files.wordp ress.com/2009/11/total_recall.jpg

yes! then there's the glorious starship troopers

[Orang Utan]

flatmate went to see it last night and absolutely loved it - he even compared it to star wars

[Burnibus]

there you go see. sounds good with those sort of comparisons. Im gonna watch it in the next week i reckon.

And starship troopers is one of my absolute favourites. Its properly funny.

[Orang Utan]

there you go see. sounds good with those sort of comparisons. Im gonna watch it in the next week i reckon.

And starship troopers is one of my absolute favourites. Its properly funny.

he says don't bother watching in 2d though of course - HAS to be 3D, otherwise it looks like a videogame cutscene

[Spandex]

Yeah def. I'm not convinced about IMAX though. If you sit in the right spot in a normal cinema, the screen fills your field of vision. What do get from not being able to see it all? Not a rhetorical question... really want to decide if I can be fucked to go IMAX in brum :)

[Yer_Maw]

have you ever been to an imax?

[les diamond]

And starship troopers is one of my absolute favourites. Its properly funny.


haven't ever properly seen this "film" but am going to have to watch it now and see if the comedy gold is there or not... lol

[Burnibus]

Oh its there alright. I suppose it depend s on your sense of humour, but the entire thing is a massive satire on mankinds thirst for power. and on a character level its also hilarious.

Another one i love but shouldnt is deep rising. Very funny film

[Spandex]

have you ever been to an imax?

Nope. What's good about it? Do you miss stuff cos yr looking in the wrong place? Is it even *slightly* like sitting too close in a normal cinema? I hate that see :)

[Loz]

I once went to the IMax and sat right in the front row, down on the left. I couldn't see the entire screen at once from there, and had to crane my neck and swivel my eyes quite a lot.

Ended up with a massive headache.

[Yer_Maw]

well i went once to see one of those crappy documentaries and was mightily impressed at the effect completely blocking out all peripheral vision has with the big screen. It took on a kind of 3d like effect like your brain is more convinced what its seeing is real and tries to process it differently. Im sure it was curved as well which might stop that close to the screen feeling all though i do remember feeling slightly wonky. This was ages ago and maybe someone whos been more often will have a different opinion.

So my reasoning is, if the film is going to be crap id at least like to give it a go at the imax.

[Orang Utan]

i always go right to the front and get overwhelmed

[kams]

Nope. What's good about it? Do you miss stuff cos yr looking in the wrong place? Is it even *slightly* like sitting too close in a normal cinema? I hate that see :)

exactly that - too much

[Orang Utan]

how is it too much? it's ace!

[kams]

its ace in the same way that rollercoasters and poppers are ace.. neither of which would be that ace after two hours

[Orang Utan]

i beg to differ - poppers on a rollercoaster! couldn't get any better - how can you have too much fun?

anyway, in related news, dan o'bannon, who wrote alien and dark star, is dead:
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/abraham/detail??blogid=95&entry_id=53779

[Loz]

that's sad news. Wasn't he in Dark Star, too? I love that film

[kams]

i beg to differ - poppers on a rollercoaster! couldn't get any better - how can you have too much fun?

anyway, in related news, dan o'bannon, who wrote alien and dark star, is dead:
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/abraham/detail??blogid=95&entry_id=53779

read my post again :)

[Orang Utan]

i did - it would even acer after two hours

[kams]

you'd have burnt your nose off the first time round

[Dal-tech]

robot jox

Bad movie.

[Orang Utan]

i'm going to see it on monday - front centre of the royal circle at the odeon leicester square - gotta do it proper. £25! better be good!

[don___quixote]

just watched Aliens on film 4 - gotta admit the last half hour is superstoopid.

[Loz]

I watched Terminator 2 last night. It's a really great film. Much better than it should be. Right up until the end.

"I know now why you cry."

SHUT UP

Cameron being almost as bad as Spielberg in ruining films with misplaced sentimentality.


But other than the last bit, the rest of the film is really good. I love how they lead you to assume that Arnie is the bad guy right up until the first face off.

[The Real Grim Shadesy]

in fact at Morrisons you can get all the Aliens films, all the predator films and the two alien vs predator films in one box set for £6. Im well up for that as i dont own Alien or predator 2

Picked the box set up yesterday. Was £11.99 though. Can't complain.

Watched Predator last night. Alien tonight.

"This stuff'll make you a sexual Tyrannosaurus. Just like me."

[platinum ray]

the Smurfs + Fern Gully + Dances With Wolves + Star Wars = my prayers have been answered by the movie gods

[les diamond]

the Smurfs + Fern Gully + Dances With Wolves + Star Wars

that's about the size of it. my prayers go unanswered.

[Orang Utan]

saw it last night - nearly fell asleep a couple of time. it dragged a lot. very colourful and there are quite a few jaw dropping moments. the end battle is awesome, but in all it just felt like the jungle sequence in king kong going on for 2 and a half hours. sigourney weaver and sam worthington are terrible in it. an interesting but garbled environmental message is drowned out by explosions and falling trees.
i'm sure the na'avi ain't that perfect either - i bet they have enslaved another race to work mines in the next valley or summat.

[Dal-tech]

http://www.discogs.com/image/R-636884-1152285426.jpeg

[Burnibus]

This is an ace film, saw it last night and loved it. Yeah the story was a bit meh and patronising but its not supposed to be a very deep art house movie, its entertainment and i was entertained. It was my first ever 3D film also, and it engrossed me totally, there is oodles to look at and the driectioon of the scenes is such that you often feel that you are doing things in the forrest like running through trees etc. Not sure how it will hold up on DVD but as a 3D experience its brilliant.

[thembuzz]

only 3d film i've ever seen was coraline. that was a trip. gave me a fucking migraine, though

[emef]

the Smurfs + Fern Gully + Dances With Wolves + Star Wars = my prayers have been answered by the movie gods

haha guy i know said the same thing
put me right off it

[les diamond]

http://cdn1.knowyourmeme.com/i/5806/original/Advice-Yoda-Gives-Son-i-am-disapoint.jpg

[soulcheck]

Bad movie.

You serious?

It had everything... Giant bad animated mechs, good old usofa vs ruskies, 'hot' chic.

how can that be bad??

[garew]

the last 3d thing I watched was jaws on tv in 1983

[emef]

seen it now, its fucking ace

[bigus]

well yeah its a very different kind of film to alien. But then compare alien to galdiator and you see Ridley scott going wrong. infact ridley scott has done some terrible pish, body of lies????

Aliens is superb,

er Top Gun

[tsr_robban]

tony scott?

[stak_etop]

tony scott?

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[Jamoid]

saw it about a week ago in 3d. was fairly skeptical when i first heard about it but ended up really enjoying it to be honest. i felt like a kid watching it.

the story is pretty cheesetastic and it has an obvious moral/political message to it which only adds to the dairy factor, but none of that stopped me from sitting in awe for half the movie. is that mainly because of the novelty of 3d? probably, but that novelty hasn't worn off yet.

also makes me think about where the whole 3d media thing will go. it's coming to television at some point and it goes without saying that it'll come to gaming too. really though what i am looking forward to is genuinely GOOD films coming out in 3d. if it can make a cheesy hollywood blockbuster interesting for me, then imagine how amazing something as good as bladerunner would be?

[Dal-tech]

You serious?

It had everything... Giant bad animated mechs, good old usofa vs ruskies, 'hot' chic.

how can that be bad??

The robots looked rather crude. I remember my dad saying after the movie. In real life you couldn't have giant robots like that because they would be too heavy.

[Dal-tech]

Avatar follow that trend you are seeing now that tries to mix mythical fairy tale looking people with technology. Even the name is like that. Stupid. Besides the aliens have cat ears and a cat's nose. Do they stick one leg up and start licking their asses? SCI-FI these days just flat out sucks. If CGI animation wasn't bad enough.

[Spandex]

I saw it this morning and really enjoyed it. Good shit scifi. Dialogue and exposition were apparently written by a severely retarded descendant of Enid Blyton. Looked great in 3D. Completely forgot about the CGI fairly quickly.

Dal-tech's right though. The aliens weren't realistic at all. They were in focus for a start. And didn't float around in the sky looking a bit like bollocks blurry photos of balloons, clouds and washing-up bowls. On the plus side, they were bright blue and unfeasibly anthropomorphic, as if some earth-twat had just completely imagined them.

[Burnibus]

check this out

http://www.metro.co.uk/metrolife/film/808669-avatar-fans-struck-by-depression-amid-racist-claims

see i liked the film alot, and the 3D realism and all that was very immersive. But these people are fucked up. Whats wrong with them? on what leve do they operate? i know some geeks but this is beyond

[les diamond]

well yea its obviously got that "white messiah"/"savage natives" vibe going on.... still haven't seen it though (proud to say) but that was the impression i had from the beginning.... white disabled marine saves "savage" yet "noble" race from being wiped out by other greedy corporate white dudes from earth. a little afterschool special about equality all rolled up into an expensive blue muck.

[Orang Utan]

dances with smurfs

[Orang Utan]

it is pretty racist i suppose but so was 300 and a hell of a lot of hollywood action films
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magical_negro

[Patrick]

it is pretty racist i suppose but so was 300 and a hell of a lot of hollywood action films
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magical_negro

Mark Mardell blogged about it a while ago too :
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/markmardell/2010/01/is_blue_the_new_black_why_some .html

[Burnibus]

Shit i linked the wrong thing. in the metro this morning was an article about people contemplating suicide because they cannot be in avatar, and the pain ofreturning to the real world is too much. Peaple wanting to be the navi and hoping that if the kill themselves they will be reincarnated in a world the same as avatar. This is on the avatar forum and has 1000 plus posts of people declaring their new found depression with life cos "its not a film".

Hence my comments about geekyness.

[les diamond]

it is pretty racist i suppose but so was 300 and a hell of a lot of hollywood action films
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magical_negro


ah yes the "magical negro" whithout whom will smith would be only half as rich...

[les diamond]

Shit i linked the wrong thing. in the metro this morning was an article about people contemplating suicide because they cannot be in avatar, and the pain ofreturning to the real world is too much. Peaple wanting to be the navi and hoping that if the kill themselves they will be reincarnated in a world the same as avatar. This is on the avatar forum and has 1000 plus posts of people declaring their new found depression with life cos "its not a film".

Hence my comments about geekyness.


for real???? suicide because the movie is over and life goes on??!?!?!

[urphae]

saw it last night - nearly fell asleep a couple of time...i'm sure the na'avi ain't that perfect either - i bet they have enslaved another race to work mines in the next valley or summat.

Shame on you. :(

[AVX23]

The racist thing seems a bit absurd.

Aliens had a bunch of slimey barbaric BLACK aliens that tried to fuck, eat, impregnate everything they saw (the implication was that the stinger tail was a phallic symbol and there's clearly a moment in Alien at least where the act of rape is implied)

No one said Alien/Aliens was racist did they ? In fact, at one point they argue wiping the fuckers out - nuke em from orbit !!! is that not a bit racist (think burke tried to point that out and got the wrath of ripley to deal with as a result). So is Ripley some sort of KKK uberlord now in this politically correct age ?

I can see the point but that's a perception on the part of the viewer, I really really doubt that those were the intentions of the filmmakers subliminal or not.

I think the whole argument there is quite silly, just folk being needlesly pedantic.

The film is pretty good I thought, entertaining for sure.

[Spandex]

It's not the worst thing ever... just a vestige and reminder of past racism and colonialism in the culture of some probably non-racist and decent people. But it's not something I think you can defend.

[Gridwang]

saw it 2 nights ago in 3-D, really enjoyed it, it is a kids movie, the characters are very 2 dimensional but the CGI is fantastic, the flora and fauna were amazing, on another note, a trailer for Tim Burtons 3-D Alice in Wonderland was shown before the movie, will go see that for sure, 3-D floating cheshire cat face FTW :D

[Hectic Cum Balthazar]

No one said Alien/Aliens was racist did they ?

yes they did, but they mainly accused it of being fascist

[les diamond]

click for avatar halleluja mountain (http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5ix-blglXOqFbMaSLe2lQSgevPp3Q)