cool new film

[spoon]

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i'm interested to hear the conspiracy-theorist/bong-hitter's take on this.

[Hectic Cum Balthazar]

Alex Jones has a mortgage to pay?

[Goat King]

Alex Jones has a mortgage to pay?

Doesn't everyone?

I've seen it. It doesn't really focus on Obama as much as the title would suggest, more on the people who have funded his election campaign and the people who he's put in positions of power and how they relate to different groups such as the Trilateral Commission, Bilbeberg Group and the CFR. If you're into this stuff then give it a watch. If not, give it a watch anyway and do some research on the claims made in the film and see if it's bull for yourselves.

Some chatter from KRS One to keep the kids interested but nothing too deep or too concrete for my taste, some of the information is taken out of context which makes it difficult for Alex Jones to keep his integrity while trying to put forward any facts that are in there.

Personally, I'd recommend it if you're willing to research reports and statements on the the subjects raised in the films for yourselves. If you're not willing to dig around a little then it's probably not going to be your cup of tea and will come off as just another conspiracy video.

In short(ish). Plenty of things to think about but ultimately flawed in it's presentation and use of dubious media techniques that other news outlets use to put a slant on a story. Not enough hard facts presented in the actual film and no sources named.

[Hectic Cum Balthazar]

some of the information is taken out of context which makes it difficult for Alex Jones to keep his integrity while trying to put forward any facts that are in there.

Alex Jones has integrity?

[Goat King]

Alex Jones has integrity?

I take it your not much of a fan.

Personally, I kinda like the guy but steadfastly refuse to take him at his word and I'll research anything he mentions that grabs my interest. I'd like to know why you don't think the guy has intergrity though. :)

[wheezer]

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[Spandex]

I take it your not much of a fan.

Personally, I kinda like the guy but steadfastly refuse to take him at his word and I'll research anything he mentions that grabs my interest. I'd like to know why you don't think the guy has intergrity though. :)

Alex Jones is a cunt with a lot to answer for. Most of the people in the world are getting worse off, to keep the select few in caviar and tophats... yet half the people who should be getting angry about this shit are wasting their time using google to do "My First Aircrash Investigation (TM)" into what happened on one day, in one building, in one city back in 2001. He's a money-grabbing ghoul and a stinking dog's cock.

[penciLneck]

praise be to allah. I mean amen.

[Goat King]

Alex Jones is a cunt with a lot to answer for. Most of the people in the world are getting worse off, to keep the select few in caviar and tophats... yet half the people who should be getting angry about this shit are wasting their time using google to do "My First Aircrash Investigation (TM)" into what happened on one day, in one building, in one city back in 2001. He's a money-grabbing ghoul and a stinking dog's cock.

His shows have kind of shifted focus on the 9/11 topic as of late, there is much more focus on what the big banks are doing right now. Lots of Ron Paul related articles and talk of state sovereignity because of second amendment infringements and the like. Don't get me wrong, I have a few issues with the amount of cash being generated through his sites but if I were in the same position I would make as much out of it as possible and use that money to further whatever it was I'm doing.

Remember that because of what happened to those three buildings on that one day is one of the reasons why we can be detained indefinately without charge, why we can be stopped and searched in the street for no good reason under section 44 and why we can no longer film a copper if they're beating the shit out of someone on a friday night because they're having a crappy day.

:)

[Hectic Cum Balthazar]

Remember that because of what happened to those three buildings on that one day is one of the reasons why we can be detained indefinately without charge, why we can be stopped and searched in the street for no good reason under section 44 and why we can no longer film a copper if they're beating the shit out of someone on a friday night because they're having a crappy day.

Balls. That's the excuse not the reason. The distinction is vast.

[Goat King]

What is the reason, in your opinion?

[Hectic Cum Balthazar]

Like Spandex says, to keep the select few in caviar and tophats.

The excuses are just a diversion. the select few want nothing more than for people to end up chasing endless rabbitholes.

[Goat King]

Just read my post back there. You're right to rip on my use of the word "reason". Next time I'll put it in inverted comma's like I have just here.

[Goat King]

Like Spandex says, to keep the select few in caviar and tophats.

The excuses are just a diversion. the select few want nothing more than for people to end up chasing endless rabbitholes.

I think it is a diversion of sorts, but I think that it's necassary for some people to have a vaguely relevent starting point when they start reasearching any topic. Possibly 9/11 isn't the best place to start when you want to take a look at the current situation but it's something that everyone is familiar with and it has strong ties to the war in Iraq, troops in Afghanistan, the situation arising between Israel and Iran etc.

[Hectic Cum Balthazar]

The Industrial revolution is a good place to start :)
Understanding capital is the key people are really looking for. It's not very sexy though.

[Goat King]

Yeah I know, too few explosions!

Some of the research I'm doing is fucking mind numbing to be honest...