Can you film the police in the uk in public? [Archive]

decadnids

16th January 2009, 10:00

wheezer

16th January 2009, 10:03

let me know if you need any geek skills to be flexed.

wheezer

16th January 2009, 10:06

legally you can, although sometimes the police think otherwise.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/photographers-criminalised-as-police-abuse-antiterror-laws-1228149.html

the police seem to think they can use anti-terror laws to prevent people from photographing in public - but it's bollocks.

yeah, that's what I had in mind - I think a concerted effort to expose these bollocks, and of course the actual shit that the popos pull can only be a good thing.

Spandex

16th January 2009, 10:40

Interesting idea yeah.

Phil, don't shout "Mason cunt" at them :)

Patrick

16th January 2009, 10:56

yeah, that's what I had in mind - I think a concerted effort to expose these bollocks, and of course the actual shit that the popos pull can only be a good thing.

There was an ePetition about it and this is the government response :

There are no legal restrictions on photography in public places. However, the law applies to photographers as it does to anybody else in a public place. So there may be situations in which the taking of photographs may cause or lead to public order situations, inflame an already tense situation, or raise security considerations. Additionally, the police may require a person to move on in order to prevent a breach of the peace, to avoid a public order situation, or for the person’s own safety or welfare, or for the safety and welfare of others.

Each situation will be different and it would be an operational matter for the police officer concerned as to what action if any should be taken in respect of those taking photographs. Anybody with a concern about a specific incident should raise the matter with the Chief Constable of the relevant force.

Which unfortunately means it's still down to the twats on the street, so they'll continue to abuse the law like they always do. The mason cunts !

Tec

16th January 2009, 10:57

Check this out.

American cunt cop assaults a cyclist.

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Same scene and the cops kick right off at the film maker, hang on - don't i pay your fuckin' wages rookie?

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phil2

16th January 2009, 11:00

well funny

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wheezer

16th January 2009, 11:03

There was an ePetition about it and this is the government response :

Which unfortunately means it's still down to the twats on the street, so they'll continue to abuse the law like they always do. The mason cunts !

They have indeed worded this in a deliberately ambiguous way. But consider a site that would host only police misconduct. If this were to actually become a matter of public discussion, I do think that public opinion would be in favor of such a site.

It'll still take balls of steel for the people operating the site, no doubt.

V Knid esq

16th January 2009, 11:12

They have indeed worded this in a deliberately ambiguous way. But consider a site that would host only police misconduct. If this were to actually become a matter of public discussion, I do think that public opinion would be in favor of such a site.

It'll still take balls of steel for the people operating the site, no doubt.

It would also take focus, and the ability to get your point across without being goading, gloating or insulting.

There are plenty of crustie/hunt-sab/anticapitalist types who do this sort of thing in their newsletters and websites - but your average punter (i.e. the people that you actually need to convince) is going to completely ignore this or think it's even untrue, because it is presented as part of a police-hating, anti-establishment agenda. If you don't engage those disinterested ordinary people, you are preaching to the converted.

That's the real challenge.

Spandex

16th January 2009, 11:12

well funny

That's fucking brilliant.

Tec

16th January 2009, 11:13

V Knid esq

16th January 2009, 11:14

Anything is funny in a Brummie accent :-p

joe pinapples

16th January 2009, 11:17

comedy gold

wheezer

16th January 2009, 11:18

It would also take focus, and the ability to get your point across without being goading, gloating or insulting.

There are plenty of crustie/hunt-sab/anticapitalist types who do this sort of thing in their newsletters and websites - but your average punter (i.e. the people that you actually need to convince) is going to completely ignore this or think it's even untrue, because it is presented as part of a police-hating, anti-establishment agenda. If you don't engage those disinterested ordinary people, you are preaching to the converted.

That's the real challenge.

Very true. I'd rip off the design of some well known 'objective' site, like Youtube.

Tec

16th January 2009, 11:38

Anything is funny in a Brummie accent :-p

I was just about to say that!

"it doesn't matter what my name is" ahahaha

Big ups to Darren Pollard, stood his ground and won. Made the cops look like donuts. Score.

Spandex

16th January 2009, 12:17

Anything is funny in a Brummie accent :-p

I'll start reading my posts out and posting them as podcasts.

Hectic Cum Balthazar

16th January 2009, 13:01

I took recording gear to the huge anti iraq war march back in 2003 or whenever it was... I ended up spending the day approaching policemen, in a very friendly and courteous manner and asking them how old they were. The older more confident ones would just tell you straight off the bat. The really young ones would glare and refuse to answer you and tell you to move on, so I just kept asking the question again and again. They got really angry but didn't really have any reason to have a go at you.

It wasn't big or clever. It was funny though.

Algy

16th January 2009, 14:03

Operation Good Guys takes some beating on the whole filming-the-police deal

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=WzezmPaZoaI

Orang Utan

16th January 2009, 14:27

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/conservative/4144210/Tory-MP-stopped-and-searched-by-police-for-taking-photos-of-cycle-path.html
http://www.london-se1.co.uk/news/view/3684

A friend of mine recently got stopped and searched for taking photos of a tower block in Bromley. They didn't even give him a reason why.

Spandex

16th January 2009, 14:35

Was talking to someone about how he saw the cops harrassing a couple of black kids.. including going thru their text messages on their phones.. and as they let em go one said "You can give him his gun.. er i mean phone back now".

Afterwards he asked em about the names they'd given (they were kids he worked with so he knew they were fake) and they said "What's your name that you give to the police?"... which is pretty revealing.. he said "Funnily enough, as a white guy, I've never really thought about it".

wheezer

16th January 2009, 14:50

As a white guy that often smells of illegality and has some rather dodgy looking identification on him, I never thought of that either... next time my friends stop me in Hackney Downs train station, I shall be ready.

kams

16th January 2009, 14:56

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/conservative/4144210/Tory-MP-stopped-and-searched-by-police-for-taking-photos-of-cycle-path.html

"I am glad my stop and search account as a white, middle-aged male shows that anyone can be suspected of, and questioned about, terrorism, regardless of race, creed or colour."

hehe twit

Spandex

16th January 2009, 15:04

wot a cunt.

it's that old Tory line where you show them 1,000 people living in grinding poverty and they point to the one bloke who made a million and say "see, he got out, the rest must all deserve it".

Orang Utan

16th January 2009, 15:09

speaking of right-wing cunts, Peter Hitchens got SASed in Hyde Park the other day, but I can't be arsed to find the article

V Knid esq

16th January 2009, 16:12

I saw a black copper in S London last week. I genuinely did a double take, it was that unusual a sight.

love_tempo

16th January 2009, 17:04

did ye see that oakland police lunatic that attacked a black man who was sitting on a bench in a bart station and shot him in the back?

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/01/14/BAJE15A6O2.DTL

madness.

Yer_Maw

16th January 2009, 18:34

Fucking hell, are the police getting staff from recruitment agencies?

"Just bare with me for one second, i need to check the law with my team leaderr"

phil2

17th January 2009, 14:34

not as good but still well funny

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phil2

17th January 2009, 14:41

pretty funny

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Spandex

17th January 2009, 14:58

Quality.

phil2

17th January 2009, 15:02

not that funny but interesting...
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phil2

17th January 2009, 15:08

"I am the law" ha

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phil2

17th January 2009, 15:19

insightful mini documentry

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bigus

17th January 2009, 16:05

I was just about to say that!

"it doesn't matter what my name is" ahahaha

Big ups to Darren Pollard, stood his ground and won. Made the cops look like donuts. Score.

cops love donuts

bigus

17th January 2009, 16:09

i think this was posted here before- though I'm not sure.

heres the link, also as I don't think I copied it over properly :(

http://www.boingboing.net/2008/08/19/visitor-to-london-vi.html

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r_v

3rd February 2009, 22:08

http://www.bjp-online.com/public/showPage.html?page=836675

thepigjockey

7th March 2009, 05:24

Police filming journalists filming police (and making bitchy comments):
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/mar/06/police-surveillance-protesters-journalists-climate-kingsnorth

dan gulberry

7th March 2009, 12:26

The generally-quite-stupid Forward Intelligence Team (FIT):

http://www.fitwatch.blogspot.com/

edit

10th March 2009, 21:44

Job done methinks...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7888301.stm

And this is interesting... the officer in this is fucking lare.. 'shutup!'

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