What country has the best food?

[V Knid esq]

We haven't had a good food thread on N_F for a while. So, which cuisine is the nicest? There's only one way to find out... VOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOTE!

[V Knid esq]

Bollocks I didn't realise there were only 7 options max... obviously have missed out Indian, English and quite a few others... but anyway.

[olv]

yeh india was my first thought

[Sheridan]

I would have said Thai, but recently I have really been getting into Indian. So that is my vote.

[emef]

italian all the way

[adsr]

I'm biased, I know, but spanish food is home for me...
:)

[Spandex]

I voted Italian.. cos I love tomatoes and I hate the orange water-balloons you get here.

But I'd probably have voted Indian cos of the amazing assault on the tastebuds. I don't have very sophisticated taste in food. I like reconstituted pork.

[darrell]

Spanish or middle eastern..

[olv]

so, if i couldnt have indian, it'd be japanese for sure, I bloody love it.....mind you now the winters kicked in british food would be up there too: cornish pasties, scotch broth, fish n chips, Shepherds pie etc...

and toad in the hole

[Daddys Girl]

Italian all the way for me. After knocking myself out on some of the best food (and freshest fruit & veg) I've ever eaten in Sardinia last month, my belly votes for Italian :)

[thepigjockey]

and toad in the hole

Tried to explain this to a class full of Finns :(

Almost as hard as explaining the crumpet.

I FUCKING LOVE CRUMPETS!!

[olv]

yeh crumpets are amazing, pikelets too....haha just noticed all the british food is brown/khaki colours

[thepigjockey]

beige rules

[Spandex]

Mate of mine has a book called "Crumpets, Muffins and Pikelets". A proper, thick book.. without many pictures. A serious work.

[love_tempo]

Italian all the way for me. After knocking myself out on some of the best food (and freshest fruit & veg) I've ever eaten in Sardinia last month, my belly votes for Italian :)

we had a long holiday during the summer. fantastic seafood in the south (fresh linguine and prawns), overrated tourist fare in tuscany except in the very low key lunch places, pesto in genoa and piedmont for wine, truffles, chocolate and overall the best food and drink.

we had great food in sardinia when we were there before but couldn't really afford it so ate a lot of very good cheap pizza.

[soulcheck]

Italian for me as well.

[JonnySpeed]

I voted Italian.. cos I love tomatoes and I hate the orange water-balloons you get here.


There are some fab tinned tomatoes in this country if you spnd over 50p a can - if you ever see 'Jenny' chopped tomatoes they are wonderful for Italian cooking. Otherwise buy the most expensive you can find - they are generally brilliant.

I love Italian, Spanish, Indian and Creole from 'french' La Reunion. nom nom nom.

[V Knid esq]

I voted Spanish because, I dunno, there's something pure about it... it's all about really good ingredients simply assembled, and I can just eat it for ever.

[Sheridan]

I'm biased, I know, but spanish food is home for me...
:)

I went to this mexican place near my house and got a really good rice, veggie, curry type deal. It was really good.

[Sheridan]

But I'd probably have voted Indian cos of the amazing assault on the tastebuds.

Totally.

[Ro Land]

Indian wins but not by a lot. Italian is great but relies so much more on good ingredients. I've been slowly getting into cooking Japanese food but that is a long journey.

As far as tinned chopped tomatoes go for italian food, my tip is always force them through a sieve and then reduce slowly. It gets rid of the seeds and tough green/yellow bits that can add bitterness.. even in the more expensive cans.

Or if you have a tin of whole unchopped tomatoes then don't break them up.. if you leave them whole while cooking then the bitter stuff inside won't get a chance to stew as much.. then break them apart right at the end and give the sauce a stir before you serve.

Freshly picked tomatoes in Italy, Spain and Greece are really the only option though!

[kams]

its definately all about the proper tomatoes, lemons, garlic and oil (and wine and sausage and basil) in italian cooking.. proper mediterranean tomatoes make me want to move there more than anything.. and nice fish stuff

the best meal I ever ate was French tho.. 8 courses.. proper quiche, spit roasted lamb, lush cheese... chocolate things.. and wine

hfadfohg;iudfnfgsi;ug;ig;soi;o sit

[kams]

Marco Pierre White says smell you fruit/veg when you buy it.. smells a lot = tastes a lot.. good for finding the best tomatoes in usually dodgy supermarket selections

[Ro Land]

Marco Pierre White says smell you fruit/veg when you buy it.. smells a lot = tastes a lot.. good for finding the best tomatoes in usually dodgy supermarket selections

nice, plus you get freak out all the other cun... customers

[adsr]

I went to this mexican place near my house and got a really good rice, veggie, curry type deal. It was really good.

i guess when I voted i was thinking more of puertorican cooking...
but now that you mention it...I'm missing mexican food at the moment..

nothing decent here in Florida...I have to wait till I go back to texas..

was the place you went to owned by mexican's??...That usually the best mexican places....(atleast in texas it was....)
Small hole in the wall places where you see other mexican families eating there as well...that's when you struck gold!!..

[julian]

i was looking on the list for indian. thai would be my next best alternative.

[Sheridan]

was the place you went to owned by mexican's??...That usually the best mexican places....(atleast in texas it was....)
Small hole in the wall places where you see other mexican families eating there as well...that's when you struck gold!!..

Probably not. The owners of the place also own a pizza place and there are a couple of locations and they are always right next to each other in the city. The servers and cooks are all mexicans. The patrons are white, mostly. I do know what you are talking about when you see tons of mexicans in the place. There is an Indian place I found that is always filled with Indians. I am usually the only white person in there. Real authentic.

[soulcheck]

It's similar to finding a good tapas bar. Always the one with a mess on the floor.

[Sheridan]

All the tapas bars in my city are well posh. It is the in thing to do now.

[The Physicist]

Italian.. no contest really.

But i do like indian.

[Daddys Girl]

its definately all about the proper tomatoes, lemons, garlic and oil (and wine and sausage and basil) in italian cooking.. proper mediterranean tomatoes make me want to move there more than anything.. and nice fish stuff

God yes... going to the local market - the fruit and veg we picked up out there was amazing.

I don't think I ate badly once while I was out there - I probably could have lived on the antipasti we picked up from the deli.

[love_tempo]

Marco Pierre White says smell you fruit/veg when you buy it.. smells a lot = tastes a lot.. good for finding the best tomatoes in usually dodgy supermarket selections

it does work cos in the supermarket today there were clementines or satsumas. they were both the same price but only one smelled citrusy. so I got that one and it tasted great.

I made a typical fennel risotto today with fresh basil and it worked really well. Cos it's autumn I baked two baby pumpkins with butter and filled em with the risotto. I've never had pumpkin just baked with butter, salt and pepper before and it overshadowed the risotto. pumpkin rocks!

[JonnySpeed]

I went to this mexican place near my house and got a really good rice, veggie, curry type deal. It was really good.

Green and Red Cantina at the top of Brick Lane in Hoxton is amazing. Proper home cooked Mexicana... none of that tex-mex shite that they pump out as authentic

[JonnySpeed]

I had one of the best meals I've ever had in France - they did a tahli kind of platter with 10 vegetable pots = each of the side dishes off the meat dishes + a mold of rice and white wine sauce.

That said 99% of french vegetarian cooking is shockingly inedible bland shite that involves putting cheese on overcooked vegetables.

[adsr]

Green and Red Cantina at the top of Brick Lane in Hoxton is amazing. Proper home cooked Mexicana... none of that tex-mex shite that they pump out as authentic

Tex-Mex is Tex-Mex and Mexican is Mexican...

The two are different styles of food, so I'm not sure why you think tex-mex is considered by anyone(atleast not in texas anyways...) to be authentic Mexican???..

and Tex-Mex is good...actually it's freaking awesome....

[Ro Land]

I made a typical fennel risotto today with fresh basil and it worked really well. Cos it's autumn I baked two baby pumpkins with butter and filled em with the risotto. I've never had pumpkin just baked with butter, salt and pepper before and it overshadowed the risotto. pumpkin rocks!

that sounds great

[joe pinapples]

fuck this rubbish. its all about the pizza crunch.

[JonnySpeed]

Tex-Mex is Tex-Mex and Mexican is Mexican...

The two are different styles of food, so I'm not sure why you think tex-mex is considered by anyone(atleast not in texas anyways...) to be authentic Mexican???..

and Tex-Mex is good...actually it's freaking awesome....

it must be because i'm vegetarian

all the tex-mex I have eaten is consitantlty bad - and exactly the same as virtually every mexican restuarant serves in the UK. That was my point = we very, very rarely do good vegetarian mexican it just the same shite buritos, faitas and tacos. Green & Red Cantina in London does proper home cooked mexican food.

Unless anybody can recommend any other authentic mexican restaurant in London as good r better than Green and Red?

[thepigjockey]

it must be because i'm vegetarian

all the tex-mex I have eaten is consitantlty bad - and exactly the same as virtually every mexican restuarant serves in the UK. That was my point = we very, very rarely do good vegetarian mexican it just the same shite buritos, faitas and tacos. Green & Red Cantina in London does proper home cooked mexican food.

Unless anybody can recommend any other authentic mexican restaurant in London as good r better than Green and Red?

I'm a veggie and I used to love Exquisito (167 Blackstock Road). That was about 4 years ago though so don't blame me if it's gone all shit now :-p

[bob]

Unless anybody can recommend any other authentic mexican restaurant in London as good r better than Green and Red?


i would second green + red...its pretty decent

[AVX23]

fuck that, where's the Scottish fud.

Mince an fuckin Tatties all the way u bunch of loosers ;)

[olv]

i would second green + red...its pretty decent

mmm i went to green and red last night, had pork belly, was well tasty

[7875]

italian, you know like Olive Garden or Pizza Hut.

[thepigjockey]

We're off to Kebabistan tonight (best kebab shop name ever).

[Ro Land]

Up there with Kebabylon and Abra-Kebabra

[Sheridan]

italian, you know like Olive Garden or Pizza Hut.

you forgot the macaroni grill.

[operator]

indian.

[The Physicist]

fuck that, where's the Scottish fud.

Mince an fuckin Tatties all the way u bunch of loosers ;)

with dough balls!

[seesred]

Indian is my favorite.

Italian is a very close second.

[jukka]

where is german food in that list ?
i voted italien now cos pasta'n'pizza is nearly alwas quite good.

[tania]

i can't believe you don't have greek cuisine in your options. and you boast about how much you're into good food all the time..

[gen-eral]

Green and Red Cantina at the top of Brick Lane in Hoxton is amazing. Proper home cooked Mexicana... none of that tex-mex shite that they pump out as authentic

I hear Wahaca is meant to be pretty good for Mexican street food and reasonably cheap too. On the down side it's popular with bandwagon-jumping "celebs" such as Sienna Miller.

[Ro Land]

Greek food is great... don't like it more than any of those in the list though!

[V Knid esq]

I hear Wahaca is meant to be pretty good for Mexican street food and reasonably cheap too. On the down side it's popular with bandwagon-jumping "celebs" such as Sienna Miller.

Wahaca is cracking, been a few times now... you often have to queue but it's worth it - great bustling vibe, nice staff, great food including massive buckets of pork crackling with avocado dip... and some amazing tequilas... never noticed any arseholey celebs in attendance, it's quite a mix of people on the whole.

[love_tempo]

Unless anybody can recommend any other authentic mexican restaurant in London as good r better than Green and Red?

we ate a lot of mexican food in san francisco. they had all kinds, from street food to traditional home cooked to modern mexican. when we came to the uk there was nothing so we learned how to make some of the staples ourselves. I think if you want authentic mexican food in the uk you have to do it yerself.

[soulcheck]

When it comes to Europe, Hungarian is an underdog. I love it.

[Spandex]

where is german food in that list ?

I ate some German food in in France a couple of years ago... Steev will remember it I reckon, it was hard to forget. Was basically some poor creature's hip (if not entire pelvis) that seemed to have been boiled for about 6 hours and then covered in cabbage.

It was probably called something like "Krankenfleisch mit Zornigerkraut".

edit: it was mainly beige.

[soulcheck]

Yaaay cabbage!!! Got to love it.

[wheezer]

Wahaca is cracking, been a few times now... you often have to queue but it's worth it - great bustling vibe, nice staff, great food including massive buckets of pork crackling with avocado dip... and some amazing tequilas... never noticed any arseholey celebs in attendance, it's quite a mix of people on the whole.

I'm a bit worried. Now that I've tasted real Mexican food, I feel like I cannot eat Mexican food ever again in Europe. I've heard good things about this joint though, maybe I'll try it some time. There is a great burrito stand on Leather Lane btw, called Daddy Donkey - they even have a website: http://www.daddydonkey.co.uk/ That's a lot closer to Mexican street food than most other things I've tasted. Although the form factor (burritos that large) apparently isn't Mexican either, the contents definitely are.

edit: green + red has been on my list of places to try too

[wheezer]

I ate some German food in in France a couple of years ago... Steev will remember it I reckon, it was hard to forget. Was basically some poor creature's hip (if not entire pelvis) that seemed to have been boiled for about 6 hours and then covered in cabbage.

It was probably called something like "Krankenfleisch mit Zornigerkraut".

edit: it was mainly beige.

Spandex, next time I see you I will make you eat some weisswurst with sweet mustard, pretzel and bavarian weiss bier. The shit you're talking about I'm not down with either, but that is a regional type of cuisine that just isn't all that great. Imho the best stuff is to be got from the South (Jukka will probably disagree). Döner kebab is a good German staple though.

Also, German food IN FRANCE? How about having fish'n'chips in fucking Karachi?

http://www.readmetro.com/media/converted_jpg/21883_20081001_Toronto_27.jpg

[wheezer]

Speaking of Mexican and Turkish food, Gunjack took me to this street joint in Mexico City where I had Tacos al Pastor, which is the Mexican version of döner kebab. Chicken or pork, marinated over one or two days with a blend of different spices and herbs such as adobo, then slowly cooked on a vertical rotisserie called a Trompo.

I had it with pineapple, pico de gaillo, guacamole and a rocket-fuel spicy peanut salsa. Amazing.

[Ro Land]

Speaking of Mexican and Turkish food, Gunjack took me to this street joint in Mexico City where I had Tacos al Pastor, which is the Mexican version of döner kebab. Chicken or pork, marinated over one or two days with a blend of different spices and herbs such as adobo, then slowly cooked on a vertical rotisserie called a Trompo.

I had it with pineapple, pico de gaillo, guacamole and a rocket-fuel spicy peanut salsa. Amazing.

goddamn that sounds fucking great.

I will never be a thin man.

[wheezer]

7 pesos a taco fat man, 7 pesos a taco.

[wheezer]

btw I voted Japanese, mostly because my favorite restaurant is Japanese.

shit like
- market oysters, foie gras, uni, teriyaki sauce, foie gras infused japanese egg custard
- fresh buffalo mozzarella, sashimi, microbasil, extra virgin olive oil
- kobe filet & hamachi ribbons, herbed potatoes, crushed citrus & avocado steamed scallop (the kobe is on some sort of japanese sour cream while the hamachi was flavored with garam masala)

but also the traditional kaiseki stuff, teppanyaki and of course sushi can be just amazing.

mind, korean is nothing to sneeze at either...

[Ro Land]

where is that restaurant?

[wheezer]

morimotos, nyc.

[garew]

Boring answer but my fav food is food cooked perfectly. French, Italian, thai indian doesn't matter. Its the chef that matters.

[wheezer]

... and the ingredients!

[soulcheck]

...and cutlery!!!

[dirtyho]

I vote Chinese but I'm biased and I've eaten in Hong Kong, Beijing and Shanghai. If you've only eaten Chinese food in the UK, then you haven't really eaten Chinese food. Especially for seafood... ;(

[joe pinapples]

arghhh the infamous Weisswurst. what other food products can you zuzeln?

[Sheridan]

Chinese food in America is wretched. It is just so salty and oily. Not good at all.

[garew]

Yeah, and its always made by families of chinamen. Are they paid actors? Like, who are they foolin? Give us the real stuff.

[wheezer]

arghhh the infamous Weisswurst. what other food products can you zuzeln?

no other foods. that verb exists purely for this particular style of consumption of weisswurst. that's how we Germans do, shit has got to be on point.

[Ladytron]

i'm so used of our food here so my answer will be Macedonian. from time to time i like to try italian, mexican, chinese or some other food but i think i can't live without our food, especialy my mum's.

[les diamond]

7 pesos a taco fat man, 7 pesos a taco.


no bro, you remember wrong they are 5 pesos a taco thats about 25 pence....


and yea al pastor is pork. don't ask me what part.

i voted thai food because it's like the mexican food of asia. i am SOOOOO sick of mexican food. weezer took my wife, daughter and i out to eat and my wife ordered the CURRY if that tells you anything. mexican food is devine especially here in the capital, there is nothing like it anywhere else, it gets distorted like with all import foods. but yea you can get real sick of tacos. ENCHILADAS however never don't seem to tire out my tastebuds as fast as my intestine.


anyway i love CURRY, thai curry, punjab, japanese curry WHATEVER, but japanese curry is very distinct from the indian and thai variations. i thought this might be an interesting read for some of you:

http://citizenhistorian.com/2007/07/31/japanese-curry-navy/


if you have never tried japanese curry rice i suggest you do because it is gooooooooood. and is quite a different experience from the curries more common to you folks in the UK etc.

oh yea another random food memory


i used to go to a dirty stand in a vacant lot in bali and get 10 sticks of SATE KAMBIN, soup and rice for about 10 cents US or a peso mexicano....


that was ten sticks of tasty goat meat, goat fat soup, rice and falvor water all for a DIME!!!!!!!!!!! and i will be damned if they didnt use a bit of coconut milk and green curry etc in the soup. THAT SHIT SAVED ME AFTER ARRIVING ON THE ISLAND BROKE (told the story on here a while back)

[les diamond]

oh yea and respect to the italianos but come the fuck on people if i never saw another plate of spaghetti in my life, i would still eat happily for the rest of my life.

[kams]

btw I voted Japanese, mostly because my favorite restaurant is Japanese.

shit like
- market oysters, foie gras, uni, teriyaki sauce, foie gras infused japanese egg custard
- fresh buffalo mozzarella, sashimi, microbasil, extra virgin olive oil
- kobe filet & hamachi ribbons, herbed potatoes, crushed citrus & avocado steamed scallop (the kobe is on some sort of japanese sour cream while the hamachi was flavored with garam masala)

but also the traditional kaiseki stuff, teppanyaki and of course sushi can be just amazing.

mind, korean is nothing to sneeze at either...

that sounds yummy scrummy

[joe pinapples]

korean food is the bomb. especially korean charcoal bbq. and fried dumplings and glass noodles.

[les diamond]

oh yea dude my ex was from taiwan and we used to go on these dim sum sprees and see who could eat the most dumplings.... she won. she ate 350 in one sitting. by 85 or 90 i wanted to die..... the next day i wanted dumplings again though. what sucks about mexico is the lack of DUMPLINGS!!!!


i can't even get a fucking gyoza around here unless i pay ten dollars for 3 dumpling at a chi chi jappo place in the snobby part of town

[kams]

oh yea and respect to the italianos but come the fuck on people if i never saw another plate of spaghetti in my life, i would still eat happily for the rest of my life.

i'd imagine american-italian is different to italian-italian.. in the same way uk-indian isn't like indian-indian.. might be wrong though-wrong though...

[les diamond]

you are right. absolutely. i mean you go to an amero-italo and its like this:

http://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/154975/?tag=Italian+Restaurant


"Welcome to Buca de Fagghecini for the authentico experience Italiano. My name is Roma. Can I start you out with some lotsa pasta macaroni minis?"


"Uh, I think we're gonna try your authentic pizzareli casserona poppers."




don't get me wrong, pizza (real italian style or dominoes) is a staple in my diet and a real homemade italian lasagña is mmmm mmmm good. but i just have this thing about italian pastas. i don't like spaghetti anymore. no carbonara, no bolenese man i would rather eat white rice than any kinda spaghetti... am i crazy? i think my first wife (in tokyo) was obsessed with "italian" food so i got burned out on it. in japan there is a fucking spaghetti joint on every corner.

[nempsey]

no other foods. that verb exists purely for this particular style of consumption of weisswurst. that's how we Germans do, shit has got to be on point.

quality :)

i have been to munich and done the weisswurt/beer/mustard/pretzel thing, i never knew how to zuzeln at the time tho heheh

[wheezer]

Pasta is good though, Gunjack. My mom's bolognese is still the bomb, and always will be. A lot of bolognese you have in restaurants is shit though, it has to cook for a bare minimum of 2 hours to be any good at all, and a day and a half would be preferable...

[les diamond]

yea man but i dunno something about the damned texture of spaghette just makes me not want to eat it ever again. like i say i think it was spaghetti overload in japan, my wife makes a bomb as bolognese but i just cant even eat half a plate of pasta let alone the whole pot.


its weird becuase i can eat a shit load of rice without getting tired of it. ami turning japanese? no i still hate spaghetti.

[les diamond]

i am going now to eat the worst thing on the planet: macdonalds. i know it is horrible but i am dying for anything that is not spicy and green.

[adsr]

fuck that, where's the Scottish fud.

Mince an fuckin Tatties all the way u bunch of loosers ;)

what the hell - o you on about cause when i last visted you all I got was
KFC and my own cooking!!...LOL!!..

:P

[adsr]

I'm also a hugh southern food lover!!..

BBQ ribs, beef, pork, chicken...all the way!!...corn on the cob slathered in butter and salt....potato salad, egg salad, and/or Macaroni salad and corn rolls, mash potatoes slathered in gravey!!...
what am I missing Sheridan??!!

so bad for you...so good on the tasted buds

[les diamond]

oh hell yea break out the catfish, hushpuppies and grits

[mattboyslim]

where are the African countries on this list?

I went to an awesome African restaurant in Copenhagen a few months ago

We had sacks to sit on around a low table and you ate using this spongey bread stuff as a kind of grabber. The meat and vegetable mix was poured over the bread leaving just enough at the side to tear off and grab the food with, then you whack it all in your gob. Felt reet primitive but was tasty as fuck

Had some killer coffee afterwards too. I was awake for days

[adsr]

where are the African countries on this list?

I went to an awesome African restaurant in Copenhagen a few months ago

We had sacks to sit on around a low table and you ate using this spongey bread stuff as a kind of grabber. The meat and vegetable mix was poured over the bread leaving just enough at the side to tear off and grab the food with, then you whack it all in your gob. Felt reet primitive but was tasty as fuck

Had some killer coffee afterwards too. I was awake for days

sounds like Moroccan food

[Sheridan]

I'm also a hugh southern food lover!!..

BBQ ribs, beef, pork, chicken...all the way!!...corn on the cob slathered in butter and salt....potato salad, egg salad, and/or Macaroni salad and corn rolls, mash potatoes slathered in gravey!!...
what am I missing Sheridan??!!

so bad for you...so good on the tasted buds


Collard greens and grits.

[adsr]

Collard greens and grits.

eewwww....that's not bueno..lol..
but some people dig it!!...

[Sheridan]

I don't like grits. I just know it is southern.

[wheezer]

Yeah I don't like grits either, and I lived in Hotlanta for a cool 5 years...

[adsr]

I don't like grits. I just know it is southern.

I noticed you didn't say anything about the collard greens tho..
I can't get past the smell...

[Sheridan]

I like greens in general.

[Ro Land]

where are the African countries on this list?

I went to an awesome African restaurant in Copenhagen a few months ago

We had sacks to sit on around a low table and you ate using this spongey bread stuff as a kind of grabber. The meat and vegetable mix was poured over the bread leaving just enough at the side to tear off and grab the food with, then you whack it all in your gob. Felt reet primitive but was tasty as fuck

Had some killer coffee afterwards too. I was awake for days

There's a great Ethiopian restaurant on Cold Harbour Lane in Brixton that serves food like that.

[Ro Land]

sounds like Moroccan food

Morocco is in Africa ;)

[thepigjockey]

where are the African countries on this list?

I went to an awesome African restaurant in Copenhagen a few months ago

We had sacks to sit on around a low table and you ate using this spongey bread stuff as a kind of grabber. The meat and vegetable mix was poured over the bread leaving just enough at the side to tear off and grab the food with, then you whack it all in your gob. Felt reet primitive but was tasty as fuck

Had some killer coffee afterwards too. I was awake for days

Sounds like the Ethiopian restaurant I went to in the 'dam. Especially the spongey bready stuff. Mmmm mm.

[Ro Land]

mmm spongey sour bread and rich rich curry..... dammit

[techno bits]

japan has the wiedest food... good but not always the best... love abit of chinese thou

[Patrick]

Morocco is in Africa ;)


The country or the continent ?

[adsr]

Morocco is in Africa ;)

I know that Morocco is in Africa, but I don't think that Moroccan food would be the same as Nigerian or the same as Ethiopian??..

[thepigjockey]

The country or the continent ?

Patrick for presdent 2012!

[adsr]

Patrick for presdent 2012!


isn't patrick a ginger tho??

[les diamond]

speaking of chinese food i would probably squash my left nut in a vice grip for a solid half an hour for some "xiao long bao" (soup filled dumplings common in taiwan)


http://gastrolust.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/joes-shanghai-soup-dumplings-xiao-long-bao.jpg

[adsr]

mmmm...dumplings....*drool*

[les diamond]

go to your local dim sum place and ask for xiao long bao (shao long bao it is pronounced) you won't regret it. i wish there was dim sum in mexico...WHEEZA MAIL ME SOME DIM SUM PLZ

[Patrick]

isn't patrick a ginger tho??

Whoah ! How very dare you !

[adsr]

Whoah ! How very dare you !
wait!
wait!

let me check your pic in facebook!!..

[adsr]

oh no...

I feel so ashamed of myself...I'm sorry...
I think that since I got moved over next to a ginger girl-who is really cool,despite my better judgement-I've become obsessed with gingers...
my deepest apologies!!..
:)

[grobelaar]

it's a toss up between French and Italian surely? Italy gets my vote, less technique - but good food just infuses everything in Italy.

I've noticed recently that in an attempt to sound posher than they are that big chain restaurants have started using the phrase 'modern European' what the fuck does that mean? Reheated frozen food usually...

[mdk]

There's a great Ethiopian restaurant on Cold Harbour Lane in Brixton that serves food like that.

the one on askew lane was good as well, only went once, probably not there anymore.

i dont think there is a 'best' unless my mother in law declares herself an independent state, then she wins.

[wheezer]

I've noticed recently that in an attempt to sound posher than they are that big chain restaurants have started using the phrase 'modern European' what the fuck does that mean? Reheated frozen food usually...

My favorite food is fusion. :)

[V Knid esq]

My favorite food is fusion. :)

Mmm, Deuterium Tempura :-p

[V Knid esq]

Actually Tritium Sashimi is best - COLD FUSION :illin:

[Spandex]

Only the most expert chefs can prepare it, cos they have to remove the bit that can explode with the energy of a million suns.

[soulcheck]

They peel it off with a knife. My mum does it every day.

[wheezer]

Only the most expert chefs can prepare it, cos they have to remove the bit that can explode with the energy of a million suns.

I had an espresso that had been cooled using liquid nitrogen. they didn't tell us what it was, it just looked like a white ball. they said you should put the whole thing in your mouth and suck on it like a lollipop. within about a minute the white outer shell collapsed in my mouth and a rather tasty espresso shot spread its rich flavors...

[thomas hooked]

in order: french. vietnamese. british. spanish. chinese. south indian. mexican. italian. north american. turkish. japanese. carribean. german.

[Algy]

Indian followed by British.

After those two, I really couldn't care. I like Italian food, but I could live without it. Same with most other foreign foods. But I'd struggle to last without curry, pies and the greatest foodstuff ever invented ... curry pies! The amalgamation of the two food superpowers.

[thepigjockey]

What's British food? Plz explain thks.

[soulcheck]

Deep fried mars bar.

[wheezer]

Despite my love for foie gras, French food has never really knocked my socks off. The poser of cuisines?

[Algy]

What's British food? Plz explain thks.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_cuisine#Traditional_cu isine
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuisine_of_Wales
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scottish_cuisine#Traditional_S cottish_foods

Plus, in Scotland, deep fried [insert name of literally any food item]

[nempsey]

What's British food? Plz explain thks.

an arbroath smokie, when it's still warm just out of the smoker, is truly the food of the gods. there is no better fish.

sadly none of you will ever have the chance to try this, unless you visit arbroath, which let's face it you won't

scotland still has this rep for being all about shit food, but in the last 10 years there has beeen a small revolution, especially in the highlands. they used to export all the amazing local produce (excellent seafood, beef, venison, cheeses etc) and import frozen cack for the locals to eat

these days you can get good local stuff pretty much everywhere. if you go to the right places.

there are still a lot of wrong places tho. but there are everywhere. i had more really shit meals out when i was on holiday in provence this year than i ever do in glasgow

and we also have the best beer, for example deuchars IPA - gorgeous stuff

not to mention whisky...

[wheezer]

english(?) food:

fish 'n' chips
pies
bacon bap
ploughman's lunch
ham hock hash cake
chedder, stilton
chicken tikka masala
english breakfast
...

[Yer_Maw]

there are still a lot of wrong places tho. but there are everywhere. i had more really shit meals out when i was on holiday in provence this year than i ever do in glasgow

and we also have the best beer, for example deuchars IPA - gorgeous stuff

not to mention whisky...

nah the midlands really has the best beer. Every time i go to the pub its a CAMRA treat to see whats on this time.

foods shit though.

[wheezer]

so far, I have not had a good 'British' beer. But I've mostly been trying ales like London Pride, that shit is weak. Good enough to use for ye olde fishe ande chippes though

[Yer_Maw]

best method is just pick the ones with the maddest name and non-permanent signage. Although they all come from micro breweries round here so i dont think they go very far.

i think theres a beer festival at earls court though which should have everything.

[nempsey]

personal taste but im yet to find one i like more than deuchars IPA

also diggin the arran blonde at the mo. that's more on a lager tip, tho much more flavour than usual in a lager.

both can be bought in bottles

[joe pinapples]

Orkney Dark Island is the best ale/beer made in Scotland. It's twice won the CAMRA Champian Beer award and is my favourite ale OF ALL TIME. I recommend to all its fantastic taste.

[Smartie]

Italian in Italy, although some food in the Alsace area of France is pretty mind blowing !

[big raff]

Orkney Dark Island is the best ale/beer made in Scotland. It's twice won the CAMRA Champian Beer award and is my favourite ale OF ALL TIME. I recommend to all its fantastic taste.

the orkney dark island is OK, i found it far too rich, almost like watered down treacle minus the sugar.
my faves are midnight sun and black cuillin.

[thepigjockey]

Orkney Dark Island is the best ale/beer made in Scotland. It's twice won the CAMRA Champian Beer award and is my favourite ale OF ALL TIME. I recommend to all its fantastic taste.

MR pineapples sports a beard like this:

http://msp97.photobucket.com/albums/l235/viper8urstang/beard.jpg

and enjoys his 'real ale' (cough spit retch) out of one of these:

http://images.oneofakindantiques.com/4521_antique_english_half_pint _pewter_tankard_1.jpg

WHICH HE STRAPS TO HIS WAIST WHEN HE ATTENDS THE SIDMOUTH FOLK FESTIVAL.

[thepigjockey]

British food seems more appealing if you're a carnivore. As a vegetarian all I can look forward to on my visits is cheddar and, er... chips. Oh and CRUMPETS.

[V Knid esq]

Deuchars is amazing, particularly with a hearty meal.

[joe pinapples]

@pig fockey - lo lz against me.


Nothing wrong with being a sad sack drinking warm ale and sporting a huge beard. Or is there?

@deuchars lovers - aka DEUCH-TARDS: right enough it tastes good, but 3.9%?


FUCK OFF, IT'S TOO WEAK.

[nempsey]

we do have amazing indian food in britain tho, and even tho i'm a carnivore i often choose/make veggie stuff. indian veggie food is super good.

[nempsey]

@pig fockey - lo lz against me.


Nothing wrong with being a sad sack drinking warm ale and sporting a huge beard. Or is there?

@deuchars lovers - aka DEUCH-TARDS: right enough it tastes good, but 3.9%?


FUCK OFF, IT'S TOO WEAK.

do what i do, have a whisky at the same time, who cares how strong/weak the ale is then

[V Knid esq]

do what i do, have a whisky at the same time, who cares how strong/weak the ale is then

Haha beat me to it - was going to say exactly the same.

[thepigjockey]

we do have amazing indian food in britain tho, and even tho i'm a carnivore i often choose/make veggie stuff. indian veggie food is super good.

Took the words right out of my mouth, UKIndian food rocks, will be eating it until i explode. Chutneys near Euston Square do a great vege thali and their Sunday buffet's not to be sniffed at too...

[thepigjockey]

@pig fockey - lo lz against me.


Nothing wrong with being a sad sack drinking warm ale and sporting a huge beard. Or is there?
.

There is. Especially the strap on tankard.

[love_tempo]

I'm glad italian food is the favourite so far. the food is one of the main reason's we picked italy for our wedding. the hard part was picking a part of italy, though the weather helped make up our mind for the far south.

what country has the best booze is a much harder question.

[Sheridan]

north american

what constitutes North American cuisine?
Any time I think of something that is North American it is just a bastardized version of food from somewhere else in the world.

[joe pinapples]

pecan and pumpkin pies are very american.

[platinum ray]

fans of Italian should listen to this

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=OKJBRU55

[wheezer]

@deuchars lovers - aka DEUCH-TARDS:


They're called deuch-bags, I believe.

I'm with you on the 3.9% though, I didn't escape from Scandinavia to drink that type of piss!

[grobelaar]

They're called deuch-bags, I believe.

I'm with you on the 3.9% though, I didn't escape from Scandinavia to drink that type of piss!

What has the strength of the ale got to do with anything - if it tastes good, it tastes good. Plus ale tends to be weaker than lager beers, it's not the same as drinking a low strength lager.

[rub'er circuits]

turkish... girls are bitchy though, thats how you know the foods good

pt
no need for apostrophies

[Jeniffer Mills]

No question, italian due to the unique diversity.

[Hectic Cum Balthazar]

http://www.1335.com/images/food.gif

[Hectic Cum Balthazar]

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[les diamond]

error 404 no hay teh funnay

[Hectic Cum Balthazar]

404? works for me.

[les diamond]

yea the video plays but there is no funny i think that comedian is broken

[Hectic Cum Balthazar]

it's great

[Daddys Girl]

Yay for Peter Serafinowicz!
I still vote Italian btw.

[joe pinapples]

Korean food is the best food in the world. The diagnosis from my Korean sister in law on any one (non-Korean) who is having difficulties in life:

"They should really start eating Korean food - it's good for you."

SHE IS KORREKT. especially the glass-noodle dumplings with soy and chilli sauce.
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2048/2414426767_380e9fafe3.jpg

[les diamond]

Damn I Love Those

[Hectic Cum Balthazar]

I went to Moshi Moshi in brighton tonight, kick ass Sashimi.

[les diamond]

horse sashimi is goooood anybody else tried?

http://food.3yen.com/2007-05-01/horse-sashimi/

http://www.1-2-3-direct.com/forum_stuff/sushi/horse.jpg

[Hectic Cum Balthazar]

I'd try it.

[les diamond]

http://atticusinjapan.files.wordpress .com/2007/09/bashashi-aisu.jpg


horse meat flavored ice cream anyone?

[garew]

I want to try soup dumplings. Hard to find the right place though

[soulcheck]

turkish... girls are bitchy though, thats how you know the foods good

pt
no need for apostrophies

Aye nothing better than a good kebab.

[les diamond]

I want to try soup dumplings. Hard to find the right place though


you just got to go to a decent DIM SUM place mate.

[les diamond]

Aye nothing better than a good kebab.


i ate so many kebabs in spain i don't ever want to see another fucking kebab... no competition for korean, japanes, thai etc. i lived in asia eating dumplings and curry and shit for at least as many years as i lived in spain eating kebabs etc. i never got sick of anything like i got sick of kebabs man. maybe spaghetti. my ex wife made alot of spaghetti in japan and to this day i HATE fucking spaghetti doesn't matter if it is the souce of the year!

kebabs and spaghetti (together or apart) = blech!:-p

[soulcheck]

yeah, i'm not really into japanese though. Didn't try Korean, but I guess it's similar. Too much soy everywere.

edit: But i like kebabs

[les diamond]

i bet you put soy sauce on white rice don't you?


maybe you will meet somebody who will show you that japanese food, korean food etc is not just "lot's of soy everywhere"


pffft


edit: i thought to myself when you mentioned "a good kebab" that you had absolutely no idea about food and you just proved me right with your "soy sauce" assumption.


edit edit: kebabs are the Mcdonalds of eastern food. sometimes you get a craving then you eat one and remember why you don't eat them more often.

[soulcheck]

No I don't.

Obviously it's not only soy, but you're comparing here one turkish dish to whole far eastern cuisines. It's a bit unfair, and I bet turks don't eat kebab every day.

[les diamond]

no mate, i am not. you said to me that japanese/korean food (AS IF THEY COULD BE LUMPED TOGETHER!) had "lot's of soy everywhere" that's like if i say food in england has "lot's of Worcestershire everywhere" ABSURD.



and kebabs like i said kebabs are like turkish macdonalds, disgusting after the first one.

[les diamond]

i mean how are you gonna go like "there's nothing like a good kebab" in a thread about which country has the better food? that's like if i went "there's nothing like a bit of taco bell!" apples and oranges mate. you are talking about some nasty shit that people put in their body when they haven't the time to look for decent food.

[soulcheck]

How could I lump Korean and Japanese together by saying that I didn't try the first one?

And IMO there's too much soy in japanese. It's not and objective truth, just a subjective opinion.

[les diamond]

How could I lump Korean and Japanese together by saying that I didn't try the first one?

good question but here you managed to do just that:


yeah, i'm not really into japanese though. Didn't try Korean, but I guess it's similar. Too much soy everywere.

edit: But i like kebabs

and as for your "opinion" bro, yes you have every right to your opinion based on an untrue assumption.

soy sauce is used on alot of dishes from japan which have been "exported" but if you had ever done more than scratched the surface you would know that japanese people consider soy sauce to be POISON for many dishes and rarely use more than a few drops at a time.

[soulcheck]

Yeah, I guessed and I guessed wrong.

On the other hand what u did is this:

ate so many kebabs in spain i don't ever want to see another fucking kebab...

soy sauce is used on alot of dishes from japan which have been "exported" but if you had ever done more than scratched the surface you would know that japanese people consider soy sauce to be POISON for many dishes and rarely use more than a few drops at a time.

So I can't make my mind about japanese cuisine by going to japanese ristos wherever i have been too, but u can judge kebab by eating the spanish one.

Well done Les.

[soulcheck]

I guess I'm in argument mode today :/

[les diamond]

um no. i didn't say "turkish food is lot's of kebabs" understand where you missed the point now?


anyway doner kebabs are pretty much EXACTLY the same in turkey or in turkmenistan, in japan or spain.... what changes? nuances of the sauce? the type of bread? it's like saying i can't judge a hamburger by eating one in germany.



and you obviously weren't able to discover more than just "lot's of soy everywhere" from your local asian food places so yea basically, you proved yourself unable to judge based on those experiences.

[les diamond]

I guess I'm in argument mode today :/

ya me 2 hope you are not taking any of this personally, i think i am kinda grumpy today too because i am stuck here fighting with my wife instead of off playing some high profile NYE gig.

[soulcheck]

Hehe, yeah, don't worry. So let's continue.

I wasn't talking about doner specifically. There's lots of kebabs, and they're totally different from eachother. Even doner and iskander. They're even different between Spain, Uk and Poland, so what are u talking about?

Maybe youate some junkfood shite kebab in your life and youdidn't like it, and hence in your opinion it's shit. Unless you've actually been to turkey, but then you'd say it.

Maybe I ate some junkfood japanese and I didn't like it that much as you obviously do, but that's my opinion as well.

[soulcheck]

Or maybe you ate a good one and didn't like it, but I just don't see where's your situation different from my one and japanese.

[Hectic Cum Balthazar]

Les and soulcheck are the same person - official.

[les diamond]

look, lemme break it down for you mmmkay?

it is safer to assume (obviously) that any kebab is based on:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/ad/D%C3%B6ner_kebab_slicing.jpg/200px-D%C3%B6ner_kebab_slicing.jpg

than that any japanese food is based on:
http://startcooking.com/public/IMG_4092.JPG



now if you want to talk about SHISH KEBABS or KATHI KEBABS ok, but you said "there is nothing like a good kebab" and obviously you are not refering to
iskender kebabs straight from turkey, you mean the typical kebab sold in england or spain, often refered to as gyros in the states. this is no longer PERSIAN food this is JUNK FOOD.

[soulcheck]

2 Steev: Yes I Are. Grzzzzggzxzzzz

look, lemme break it down for you mmmkay?...


Doh, come on. I was reffering to turkish kebabs (it was about turkish cuisine), just as you (I assume) did to japanese japanese, the real one ;)

If i referred to fast food stomach stuffers it'd be the same as saying that pizza hut is a good example of Italian cuisine ;)

[les diamond]

its funny what passess for felafel these days too

[les diamond]

2 Steev: Yes I Are. Grzzzzggzxzzzz



Doh, come on. I was reffering to turkish kebabs, just as you (I assume) did to japanese japanese, the good and real one ;)


dude EVEN YOSHINOYA doesn't offer you soy sauce.

[soulcheck]

I edited.

I don't know about soy sauce in different restaurants, but I will give it a try when I know of one that's really good.

edit: The ones I've been to offered it, so maybe they we're shit ones.

[les diamond]

yoshinoya is the mcdonalds of japanese food and they don't use soy sauce.


anyway dude if you really want to try japanese food that isn't "lot's of soy everywhere" i can reccomend the following:

http://www.daninjapan.com/1.19/yakitori.jpg
http://www.oui-blog.com/erin/archives/unagi.jpg
http://img100.exs.cx/img100/6851/AppleTree-YomogiDaifukuRedbeanpaste.jpg


ETC ETC ETC not one of these dishes uses "soy sauce"

[soulcheck]

http://www.daninjapan.com/1.19/yakitori.jpg




This one I tried. Yes, it's good.

[les diamond]

here lemme make this ALOT clearer:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kebab

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_cuisine

"Soy sauce
Soy sauce is not usually poured over most foods at the table; a dipping dish is usually provided. Soy sauce is, however, meant to be poured directly onto tofu and grated daikon dishes. In particular, soy sauce should never be poured onto rice or soup. Noodles are slurped."



"The word kabab (کباب) is ultimately from Arabic and originally meant fried meat, not grilled meat.[1] The Arabic word possibly derives from Aramaic כבבא kabbābā, which probably has its origins in Akkadian kabābu meaning "to burn, char".[2] In the 14th century, kebab is defined to be synonymous with tabahajah, a Persian word for a dish of fried meat pieces. The Persian word was considered more high-toned in the medieval period, and as a result, kebab was used infrequently in Arabic books of that time. Only in the Turkish period, did kebab gain its current meaning of shish kebab, whereas earlier shiwa` شواء had been the Arabic word for grilled meat. Kebab still retains its original meaning in the names for stew-like dishes such as tas kebab (bowl kebab).[1] Similarly, kebab halla is an Egyptian dish of stewed beef and onions."

[les diamond]

edit: fuck it man i need to eat something decent that's why i am so irritable


i heard mexican food is kinda trendy in UK right now..... living in mexico makes you realize that mexican food IS A JOKE.


every morning i wake up frustrated because the only options for breakfast are enchiladas, tacos, tamales or tortas and they are all pretty much the same fucking shit.

[soulcheck]

edit for edit ;P

[V Knid esq]

Does that mean I could go and open a great British greasy spoon café in Mexico City selling egg, beans and chips and people would come flocking to try these exotic delights?

[les diamond]

well knid eggs beans and papas fritas(chips) are already breakfast staples here on the same plate as enchiladas or whatever. they just put green sauce all over it.

there is a kebab/felafel shop here that does well on the "exotic delight" factor and a snobby "asian cuisine" place that sells the worst, stingiest curry ever for what most people make in a day here....


maybe HAGGIS etc? mexicans already eat tripas(guts) etc

[garew]

there is nothing like a good gyro

[garew]

edit: fuck it man i need to eat something decent that's why i am so irritable


i heard mexican food is kinda trendy in UK right now..... living in mexico makes you realize that mexican food IS A JOKE.


every morning i wake up frustrated because the only options for breakfast are enchiladas, tacos, tamales or tortas and they are all pretty much the same fucking shit.


No breakfast burritos?

[les diamond]

no mate that's a california/tex mex thing. burritos don't even exist in mexico they were invented on the american side of the border.

[garew]

What are you doing in Mexico?

[sniffio]

http://a248.e.akamai.net/f/248/37952/1h/image.shopping.yahoo.co.jp/i/j/ringerhut_b02

@Steeve
This is what you are going to have in Japan.
I'm going to take you to a heaven of taste.
You'll thank me for it.
I am going to carve my name "sniffio" on your memory of taste buds.
You shall love it.
Taste those sniffio's!

[les diamond]

What are you doing in Mexico?


getting out of mexico.... it ain't as easy as it sounds... 2 weeks to go here...

[Hectic Cum Balthazar]

http://a248.e.akamai.net/f/248/37952/1h/image.shopping.yahoo.co.jp/i/j/ringerhut_b02

@Steeve
This is what you are going to have in Japan.
I'm going to take you to a heaven of taste.
You'll thank me for it.
I am going to carve my name "sniffio" on your memory of taste buds.
You shall love it.
Taste those sniffio's!

heheheh.. I can't wait!