Bjoerks Dancer in the Dark

[KaOz]

well i know, its an old movie, but ive just watched it on arte, and damn. i must say its one of my favourites films now. so fuckin impressing. my mind my mind

[jukka]

i haven't seen it so far.....but i will sometime in the future.

[KaOz]

check out arte jukka! they will show it a second time these days i think

[jukka]

i read she had to go to the psychiater (whats the english word for?? ) after they fiinished the movie !??

[Marolo]

don't believe anything you read.
but she did eat her costume...

[jukka]

lol

[MUX]

well..
first things first.. the director was in a relationship with her during the movie, and she cant really act, so he made her cry, the he gave her a script and viola... she an actress that sings.
it was all filmed on sony digital handycams
i like the movie but it's too depressive at times

[Ruben A]

yes Lars von Trier...... not for children!!!!!!! he´s wicked... the instructor - and ofcourse..... the dane!!!! but yes---. dancer in the dark rocks!!! definately a great great film!

[Marolo]

That last scene when she sings the sound of music is harrowing:

Girls in white dresses with blue satin sashes
Snowflakes that stay on my nose and eyelashes
Silver white winter that melts into spring
These are a few of my favourite things
When the dog bites, when the bee stings
When I'm feeling sad
I simply remember my favourite things
And then I don't feel so bad


they should have added that on the soundtrack but didn't

[Ruben A]

Originally posted by MUX
it was all filmed on sony digital handycams

known as the "dogme" princip!........ DOGME..... DOGME.... I could tell you a lot of this... but gotta go to bed now!

[piscaries]

beautiful movie. very depressing.. an odd role for bjork, which makes the movie all the better. i heard the soundtrack before i saw the movie and then once i saw the movie the soundtrak made perfect sense.

[MUX]

me too pisc.. so much better that way. esp the factory dance bit

[tsr_tomas]

i like the movie.

[tsr_robban]

i feel the same way about hercules in new york

[gunjack]

i really thought this movie was the most overtly contrived, tear- jerk CRAP of the lowest possible quality. my wife and i went hi speed through the completely nonsensical musical numbers and by the end were looking at eachother is disgust and disbelief. anyone who cried over this film is in dire need of a swift kick up the bum.

[Sheridan]

I thought it was interesting and fairly intense.
the only way I can describe it to people who haven't seen it is it is like watching an atomic bomb dropping in slow motion.
meaning if you saw an atoimc bomb being dropped you know something bad is going to happen, you just aren't sure how soon it is going to happen. then it lands and you see the explosion. after that you have the fallout and the damage it causes after the initial blast.

[tjackalko]

Originally posted by Ruben A


known as the "dogme" princip!........ DOGME..... DOGME.... I could tell you a lot of this... but gotta go to bed now!

But dogme also states that you can´t use overdubbed sound, mounted cameras and artificial lighting and some other things aswell, so it isn´t really a dogme movie. I cant take anything Trier does seriously after seeing Riket and Idioterne wich is some of the funniest things ever. Also adding the "von" to his name isn´t very serious if you ask me. But it´s brilliant marketing.

[Ruben A]

Originally posted by tjackalko


But dogme also states that you can´t use overdubbed sound, mounted cameras and artificial lighting and some other things aswell, so it isn´t really a dogme movie. I cant take anything Trier does seriously after seeing Riket and Idioterne wich is some of the funniest things ever. Also adding the "von" to his name isn´t very serious if you ask me. But it´s brilliant marketing.

yeah.. well, this might not be a part of the serias of dogme films.. you´re right... but even there they break the "rules" too often... hahaha... but great idea... try to make music without the use of a computer !??
Or without a drumset... or synths.... or..... or...... tough!

lol

[ischo]

it certainly doesn't cheer one up...... but still worth checking out

[wheezer]

Originally posted by tsr_robban
i feel the same way about hercules in new york

a very fine movie in its own right!

[baba]

I went to see it at the cinema. I had to force my fist in my mouth to stop myself wailing out loud. Quick rush to the loos to let it out. Gawd, I think its a beautiful film , contrived maybe, but who cares if it can effect you like that. I thought it was terribly sad but not depressing. Breaking the Waves was good like that too.

[invisibleplanet]

Originally posted by Ruben A


known as the "dogme" princip!........ DOGME..... DOGME.... I could tell you a lot of this... but gotta go to bed now!
Dogme

http://www.bfi.org.uk/gateway/creative/

Site that details the Dogme 95 manifesto and tells you the guidelines for making and registering a Dogme film. The site contains a listing of the Dogme films made to date

http://www.dogme95.dk/

Two Danish filmmakers, Lars von Trier and Thomas Vinterberg in 1995 responded to what they saw as the increasing inhumanity and formulaic commerciality of effects-heavy, franchise-friendly feature films. They created a vow of chastity that placed the stylistic presentation and formal tricks of film subservient to the narrative and characterisation.
http://www.blackbeltjones.com/dogme.html

[KaOz]

so
ill get the dvd for 5 euros *bought*

hehe :)

[Yer_Maw]

i dont like lars films at all. dogme is such a pointless stupid idea that just makes his films CRAP. the idiots was just plain crap as well. not impressed at all!

[phil]

i like the idea of just making films with your friends for the sheer fun value with no intention of showing anyone else just like when you were little poking the ground with stick on your own at the bottom of the field .your video style affair. me and some other people, where i live in chelmsford are going to make a zombie film , should be good fun/

[a.rodin]

So I finally saw this film... and I want to meet Bjork to tell her how much I appreciated the film.

Kinda like after reading a good book and you want to meet the author and hang out.

Such a musically inclined movie. I assume it would inspire any music producer to make what is in their head. And towards the end when there is no sound to feed off of musically, she starts to sing...
That to me was like a subplot to mimic the brain of Beethoven.

Big C!! Call her up and collaborate man! Make haste!! Schnell!!


n.b. She is good friends w/ Thom Yorke and I assume you know him or to get in contact with him and then presto!!

[audiofelch]

i thought it was a really emotionally brutal film.. i usually hate anything with a hint of "musical" in it.. but i thought those sequences were really effective...
i ended up buying the album and its so inventive.. one of the trax bridges autechre.. matmos-like found sounds... musicals... industrial-ish clangey noises... and well.. typical bjorky song

[carrot ram]

Feston by Thomas Vinterberg is mint and would appeal to similar tastes. It's pure Dogme.

Some people say that Von Trier seeks to manipulate the viewer. I think this is probably right, i.e. the sledgehammer "YOU WILL FEEL THIS NOW!!!!" effect that some scenes have. That's not a criticism; I love the film.

[carrot ram]

The album too.

[pille'ocheoni]

hehe, i think we all want to meet bjork. well maybe some of us. i recently saw this movie a couple months ago again, and still love this film.

[a.rodin]

Y'know sometimes I struggle with the whole superficial attractive outside thing, when I date women.

I know this sounds obvious but Bjork is not that appealing in the film externally but her mannerisms, whimsical smile, mischieviousness, her dancing/singing and 'cuteness', etc... makes her one hot potato!

It's somewhat analagous to Amelie, although she is made pretty in the film.



They say that words only constitute less than 10% of communication. Bjork does not need to speak at all for me to want her company. She's cool like dat.


Anyways, my little dream now, is to meet her... how corny I know!

It's like a weird thing with me... if I had to choose between Charlize Theron or Bjork to spend say one day with... "dreamer, I'm nothin' but a dreamer".

[c s]

i don't like von trier's stuff - and i know it's almost forbidden not to like him. :D but while he may be an ambitious guy and i even think i share the critics he wants to "transport" by his films i don't like his means, and i really wonder how people enjoy his films - must be a masochistic thing. and apart from the repeating stories depicting innocence being murdered in an almost sadistic way the handycam stuff really gets on my nerves...

[a.rodin]

Originally posted by c s
i don't like von trier's stuff - and i know it's almost forbidden not to like him. :D but while he may be an ambitious guy and i even think i share the critics he wants to "transport" by his films i don't like his means, and i really wonder how people enjoy his films - must be a masochistic thing. and apart from the repeating stories depicting innocence being murdered in an almost sadistic way the handycam stuff really gets on my nerves...



... How is it masochistic? It's a story that doesn't have a happy ending. Whether she lives or dies, it is still a stupendous film.
(Please don't kill Bambi or Paddington) :)

There are many films made with 3CCD chip digital cameras. It allows more creativity. Have you seen Elephant?
It's all subjective. I have seen more great movies in the last year than almost my entire life!

[c s]

like you say, it's all subjective... i just don't like these moving cameras all the time. no i haven't seen that elefant film - in fact i hardly ever go to the cinema, rather watch films at home (also cheaper).

[adsr]

cried like a baby during this whole film.....loved it...

[grobelaar]

Originally posted by Sheridan
I thought it was interesting and fairly intense.
the only way I can describe it to people who haven't seen it is it is like watching an atomic bomb dropping in slow motion.
meaning if you saw an atoimc bomb being dropped you know something bad is going to happen, you just aren't sure how soon it is going to happen. then it lands and you see the explosion. after that you have the fallout and the damage it causes after the initial blast.

I like atom bombs :)