Analog, digital or whatever?

[tjackalko]

A little poll influenced by the fav gear thread.
So whats your flavor, tell me whats your flavor...

[kungfoo]

let it be loud

[thetonewrecker]

analog punch, digital control, always techno.....

[Weishaupt]

loud.....mixing not fixing!

[tsr_tomas]

well.. i like the analog sound from the c64.
still digital is good in the techno business.

[Weishaupt]

well......i hear often the people talk"no digital........just analog producing......."......hm..i understand this......i prefer anaolog coz i love it to have the devices in my hand.........i dont like many of knobbs on the screen.

digital ist also cool coz i like to see the development of our thing and i will to be always open for new things

[gunjack]

whatever works.

[decadnids]

there are loads of digital out board gear Weishaupt, that have real knobs and stuff. its not all just on a computer screen.

I think both analogue and digital, why either / or, why not both!!!!

[Weishaupt]

both is cool.........mixing i said....
:-)

[grobelaar]

Analogue: but mine's a philosophical vote, I know fuck all about making music or synths, or making synths or making music with synths, or synthing music...

[Martin23]

Hey tjackalko,
Nice use of the Misfits Logo, man I remember seeing them support the Damned in London, was a massive fan for years

[dirtyho]

I would love to have seen the Misfits, got a cd in the car - great driving music. Saw Bad Brains at the Astoria years ago. I think punk and techno share a certain sensibility.

[pille'ocheoni]

i like both...............one has something the other doesnt, and vice versa

[4md]

both....I love My old Kawai & I "m crazy with Reaktor ....

[bob]

its the end result that matters..

[ischo]

best of both worlds

[invisibleplanet]

I never made a proper conscious choice before, so If i could have two examples of the same track, one produced with analogue, and the other digital, then I could make a choice then...until then....memory suffices..
I remember having a sanyo analogue amplifier, with a pull out reel-to-reel bay, which we got from Hong Kong - it always sounded better than any other amp I heard, apart from the amps a friend, Paul Hines makes in Lytham, which cost about thousands to buy, and are I think, a mix of analalogue and digital. (but don't quote me on that!) As far as I know,(because I haven't seen him for a couple of years) he sold the designs on to another company, as running both production and design can be expensive to succeed in without outside support.

[nickedstole]

has anyone heard the new aturia moog modular v? http://www.arturia.com/en/moogmodular.lasso

it models the circuitry and stuff directly, instead of making digital approximations of a filter it really models an analogue filter circuit.

when digital stuff lets you plug loads of other sound sources into something like this, in combination with crazy digital stuff, then digital will be better than analogue.

but loud is important.

analogue is bulky.

plus, who's tried out the ohmforce quadfrohmage? analogue emulation sounding but fx only possible in digital.

[owain_k]

Originally posted by thetonewrecker
analog punch, digital control, always techno.....


My sentiments exactly......(when it works :( )

[invisibleplanet]

and of course, when it's not jazz. rap, house, deep trouser, jazz, or funk ...etc

lol

[Sheridan]

as long as the sounds are cool. I don't care how it was made.

[$eye]

i think that the more organic nature of digital makes a more creamy sound come out of your speakers and stops people getting hurt. I actually tried analogue only last week but found it a little slippery and long. I know that there are benefits to using analogue such as the look of the whole thing but like mates condoms, i just don't trust it. I had a rotten experience once with a mates condom when it came apart just before my nirvana and there was then a huge risk of fertalising the lady i was with. I'm not a catholic or a pro lifer and subsequently spent the following morning in the clinic getting the old mornin after pill down her neck...the other thing that puts me off analogue is all that casing it comes in. It must be a terrible waste and really very bad for the enviroment. If they could send me an analogue with less casing i'd probably be interested. Off for a tuna melt now so hope everyone has a grand day hey. Bye for now!

[goinz]

i like both but the warm analog sounds are more interisting to me.

[$eye]

i werk with this dutch guy. He says he prefers digital aswell

[$eye]

and he's from Holland!!!

[grunder]

any....both......please ..........aaaaaarrr......help /....................
...................nice....... ....\speakers............pleas e.../..............
nice,,.................rrrrrrr rrrrrrrrrr

[CV]

didn't we have this vote before once?

[jess-ssej]

As the end user/consumer, I'm all for digital as long as it sounds good, if you can make it sound rich, I'm all over it. So basically, I'm ok w/ digital if it sounds analog LOL Just can't stand that super-crispy high end that makes my ears bleed.

[marcel]

Originally posted by cristian
didn't we have this vote before once?

everything in cycles. same with pluginthread, postapicturethread,whatareyoul isteningtothread and so on and so on.....

but what else could you do? watching tv?..going out???...
oooh its time for summer, jesus

[tjackalko]

Sorry if you have voted on this before. As a forum foetus I should have searched the forum, I know. This happens to me every time I join a new forum, the moderators seem a little more forgiving here than most other places. From now I will be good, I promis...


http://www.devilman.co.uk/chaser_base/bhtrained.JPG

[Theindigo]

i really like to read that posts. so i prefer good arranged analog things.

but if onebody is instead of to produce fuckin rulin shapin digital sounds im really =). like cex, squarepushers or so on...

[V Knid esq]

I think the richness of digital sound is only now starting to emerge, thanks to the efforts of artist like the wonk-wonk techno crew, Aphex, Fennesz, etc... and just in the last couple of years the understanding of those sounds that can only be made by software has meant people have started being intuitively able to mix them with physically- and electrically-generated sounds.... Super_Collider were def pioneers of this.

[Theindigo]

right theyre pioneers. but there s an huuuge other potential for those music. but now ....

[Jeniffer Mills]

Virtuell analog....

[V Knid esq]

I like simulating digital sounds by analogue means.

[Theindigo]

professional thing

[KaOz]

i like guitars

[thembuzz]

i don't give a fuck. whatever the situation calls for. i've got no analogue gear. none whatsoever. i wouldn't mind some but, meh. if i never ever owned any ever, i think i could still die happy

well, as happy as i expect to die

[nico]

Originally posted by thembuzz
whatever the situation calls for.

word

[Jeniffer Mills]

Originally posted by KaOz
i like guitars

....And girls with hair on their legs.....lol

[Jeniffer Mills]

lol
http://www.ram.org/pictures/sights/castro_halloween/hc31.jpg

[garew]

can't do this with digital:
http://www.firstpr.com.au/rwi/dfish/sounds/rw14-256.mp3

[KaOz]

why not?

[garew]

it just can't. You are ruining everything :)
No, really, if you can get your computer to sound like a devilfish mod. You are good. Real good.

[Loz]

if you were half decent at programming synths, I'm pretty sure you could recreate that in Reason.

[pongoid]

I don't know about getting it spot on with digital, but at least for that particular sound, you could get pretty close with some good emulations and programming. Yes, you'd have to know your stuff, but shouldn't you know it anyway, if you're going to be that particular about timbre?

There are other sounds that you can't get from digital equipment because of the way analog saturates and folds back on itself, whereas digital, under the same circumstances will simply clip out. There are also certain artifacts in sound that digital doesn't reproduce accurately. While we can't actively hear tones outside of 20-20kHz, they do have effect on us and our perceptions of tones within that range. Some of those occur as beat tone, sub-harmonics, "air", and non-audible phase-shifting events. Digital equipment doesn't even calculate that stuff into a signal most of the time.

Digital also does some amazing stuff. FM and Wavetable Synthesis, for example, produce SICK fundamental tones, but they get even sicker when you put them through analog filters.

I'm afraid I can't vote, because I use both and I care when it's quiet too. *shrugs
:!

Ape

[Dave Neurotica]

Analogue rules the roost for me. Fostex 1/2" multitrack, old allen + heath desk, valve compressors, analoge synths, roland space echo etc all have pride of place in my stufio. Computers get used for sequencing, processing samples, and mastering (although i often bounce stuff on to tape and back again for extra warmth). I dont mind using samplers, but the 1st capture has to hit tape.

I also like the 'one-machine/one-job' ethic. If anything goes down in the studio it wont destroy the whole session, unlike these fancy computers which try and do eveything, but when pushed blatantly cant. I mean why spend money on plug-ins like valve compressors when you can just buy a valve compressor, which will sound better, wont take up any processing power, can be adjusted without clicking menus and wrestling with 'virtual' knobs. And it will look nice, with its warm glowing VU meters... mmm analogue....

[Loz]

Originally posted by Dave Neurotica
I mean why spend money on plug-ins like valve compressors when you can just buy a valve compressor, which will sound better, wont take up any processing power, can be adjusted without clicking menus and wrestling with 'virtual' knobs. And it will look nice, with its warm glowing VU meters... mmm analogue....

because of the extra cost involved?

analogue stuff is great, but so is digital stuff. my computer is far, far, far more powerful that any hardware equipment I could afford.

[Dave Neurotica]

Originally posted by Loz


because of the extra cost involved?




Not necassarily. I've seen soft VCs for 2-300 quid. My TLA ivry series twin VC i think i paid about 275 secind hand. Still, you cant get them free out the end of an internet connection though...

[Loz]

you can buy a full virtual studio and sequencer for 600 quid. including various plugins that do a half decent job of emulating the stuff that costs £275.

as I said, having the real stuff is great, but for those who don't have the money or space (another problem I have) a small box that sits in my room does the job as well as I'm happy with in the mean time.