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MUX
24th March 2003, 09:00
"We live in a time where we have a man sending us to war for fictitious reasons. Whether it is the fiction of duct tape or the fiction of orange alerts, we are against this war, Mr. Bush. Shame on you, Mr. Bush!"

Michael Moore
Oscars Cermony
Sun March 23, 2003

wow.. this man really does got steel balls...

Atarythm
24th March 2003, 10:13
Yeah, he is the man !!! :)
But the audience didn't have a good reaction...

MUX
24th March 2003, 10:31
nah.. they boo'ed him off
but he was never really liked....

he made that rage video in NYC and closed the stockexchange... Goddamn hero!

goinz
24th March 2003, 10:49
Bush's War and Propaganda System suckz. Best is he leave his place of the u.s. administration.

I think his vote was illegal.

actionjetzon
24th March 2003, 11:09
72% of the US population back George W. Bushs politics...................... ....that smells like propaganda, doesn´t it?

wired
24th March 2003, 11:28
mr. moore is a person i really like :-) i saw it one minute ago in the news here... there should be more people like him in america

tsr_robban
24th March 2003, 12:04
moore is a genius, i'm reading his "stupid white men" and its fuckin brilliant...

MUX
24th March 2003, 12:19
shit..! you reminded me! i was reading it over a girls shoulder in the london subway and didnt know who wrote it? is it him? biography?

jamyna
24th March 2003, 12:28
It's a brief history of amercian capitalism/racism/globalisation relationships. Very well informed and worth a read as the first three chapters details all the bush administrations' corporate links and various exploits, even if it does go on a bit too "PC" later on (for me anyway).

MUX
24th March 2003, 12:32
politically correct? or IBM-compatible? http://images.bravenet.com/brpics/smilie/dopey.gif

jamyna
24th March 2003, 12:39
not intel, moore like "right on" inside - y' get me?

MUX
24th March 2003, 12:40
got ya...

tsr_robban
24th March 2003, 13:52
i'm on the second chapter i hope the rest of the book is as good as the first two chapters =)

Hiro
24th March 2003, 14:41
As soon as I saw that he won- I was already trying to figure out how he would get the most word in... He would most definitely be using the platform...

Not sure it this was already posted: (apologies if it was)
Monday, March 17th, 2003

George W. Bush
1600 Pennsylvania Ave.
Washington, DC

Dear Governor Bush:

So today is what you call "the moment of truth," the day that "France
and the rest of world have to show their cards on the table." I'm glad to
hear that this day has finally arrived. Because, I gotta tell ya, having
survived 440 days of your lying and conniving, I wasn't sure if I could take
much more. So I'm glad to hear that today is Truth Day, 'cause I got a few
truths I would like to share with you:

1. There is virtually NO ONE in America (talk radio nutters and Fox
News aside) who is gung-ho to go to war. Trust me on this one.
Walk out of the White House and on to any street in America and try to find five people who are PASSIONATE about wanting to kill Iraqis. YOU
WON'T FIND THEM! Why? 'Cause NO Iraqis have ever come here and killed any of us! No Iraqi has even threatened to do that. You see, this is how we average
Americans think: If a certain so-and-so is not perceived as a threat to our lives,
then, believe it or not, we don't want to kill him! Funny how that
works!

2. The majority of Americans -- the ones who never elected you -- are
not fooled by your weapons of mass distraction. We know what the real
issues are that affect our daily lives -- and none of them begin with I or
end in Q. Here's what threatens us: two and a half million jobs lost since
you took office, the stock market having become a cruel joke, no one
knowing if their retirement funds are going to be there, gas now costs two
dollars a gallon -- the list goes on and on. Bombing Iraq will not make any of
this go away. Only you need to go away for things to improve.

3. As Bill Maher said last week, how bad do you have to suck to lose a
popularity contest with Saddam Hussein? The whole world is against
you, Mr. Bush. Count your fellow Americans among them.

4. The Pope has said this war is wrong, that it is a SIN. The Pope!
But even worse, the Dixie Chicks have now come out against you! How bad does it have to get before you realize that you are an army of one on this
war? Of course, this is a war you personally won't have to fight. Just like
when you went AWOL while the poor were shipped to Vietnam in
your place.

5. Of the 535 members of Congress, only ONE (Sen. Johnson of South
Dakota) has an enlisted son or daughter in the armed forces! If you really
want to stand up for America, please send your twin daughters over to Kuwait
right now and let them don their chemical warfare suits. And let's see
every member of Congress with a child of military age also sacrifice
their kids for this war effort. What's that you say? You don't THINK so?
Well, hey, guess what -- we don't think so either!

6. Finally, we love France. Yes, they have pulled some royal screw-ups. Yes, some of them can be pretty damn annoying. But have you forgotten we wouldn't even have this country known as America if it weren't
for the French? That it was their help in the Revolutionary War that won it
for us? That it was France who gave us our Statue of Liberty, a Frenchman
who built the Chevrolet, and a pair of French brothers who invented the
movies? And now they are doing what only a good friend can do -- tell you
the truth about yourself, straight, no b.s. Quit pissing on the French and
thank them for getting it right for once. You know, you really should have
traveled more (like once) before you took over. Your ignorance of the world
has not only made you look stupid, it has painted you into a corner you
can't get out of.

Well, cheer up -- there IS good news. If you do go through with this
war, more than likely it will be over soon because I'm guessing there
aren't a lot of Iraqis willing to lay down their lives to protect Saddam
Hussein. After you "win" the war, you will enjoy a huge bump in the
popularity polls as everyone loves a winner -- and who doesn't like
to see a good ass-whoopin' every now and then (especially when it 's
some third world ass!). And just like with Afghanistan, we'll forget about what
happens to a country after we bomb it 'cause that is just too complex! So try
your best to ride this victory all the way to next year's election. Of course,
that's still a long ways away, so we'll all get to have a good hardy-har-har
while we watch the economy sink even further down the toilet!

But, hey, who knows -- maybe you'll find Osama a few days before the
election! See, start thinking like THAT! Keep hope alive! Kill Iraqis --
they got our oil!!

Yours,

Michael Moore
www.michaelmoore.com

tsr_robban
24th March 2003, 15:00
haha he calls him governor bush =)

c s
24th March 2003, 18:58
mux, i thought you had a disagreement with views like mr. moore's...?

marcel
24th March 2003, 20:10
hooray for mr. moore. i saw it at the news. great!
and, well, we alraedy did knew that but he showed us again: a lot of idiots in the audience

MUX
24th March 2003, 20:52
cs: no i a do agree with the war but i was impressed when they were advised not mention the subject so strongly and he's showed that he doesn't give a fuck about what they were told....

my views seemed to rumble slightly at times now... but when i saw the soldier as POW's todays i was disgusted andi and again pro-war

c s
24th March 2003, 21:39
well, the us soldiers at least made a free will decision to join the army - no-one has to in the us (at least not directly, although economical reasons apply). anyway i'm "not quite sure" if iraqi soldiers were asked before if they like to join the army...

Mui
24th March 2003, 21:57
I wonder if dick clarke and charlton heston were in the crowd.....they'd be booing the loudest.....go mike

grobelaar
24th March 2003, 23:00
Originally posted by MUX
cs: no i a do agree with the war but i was impressed when they were advised not mention the subject so strongly and he's showed that he doesn't give a fuck about what they were told....

my views seemed to rumble slightly at times now... but when i saw the soldier as POW's todays i was disgusted andi and again pro-war

Need I mention that the US still hold hundreds of illegal prisoners at Guatanamo Bay, refusing to grant them POW status and not appearing to grant them any status, trial or legal representation.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/08/15/attack/main518770.shtml

Hows this for a bit of thinking...

None of the attempts are reported to have caused serious injuries, and a military official at Guantanamo says in some cases, the actions of the men are viewed as a sign that the detainees are showing remorse for their earlier deeds as members of al Qaeda and the Taliban.

c s
24th March 2003, 23:23
of course, it's totally ridiculous to seriously claim the us would "bring freedom & democracy" while at home any "suspect" can be... well, we had this before.

Weishaupt
25th March 2003, 08:09
http://www.liquidgeneration.com/poptoons/saddamfromiraq.asp

tsr_robban
25th March 2003, 08:36
hey i think j.lo stole that melody from saddam and used it in one of her songs...

Weishaupt
25th March 2003, 08:39
jes..that is my opinion too.............
tztz...not own ideas
:-)

marcel
25th March 2003, 16:35
Originally posted by c s
of course, it's totally ridiculous to seriously claim the us would "bring freedom & democracy"
yeah, only one example: egypt, under control of the usa and the president gets 100% of the votes for decades now...

amble
25th March 2003, 23:29
seems like the egypt president may need a bit more than that in the next few weeks.

this spring will be a lil hotter than in former years my granny says.

tsr_tomas
26th March 2003, 00:20
yeah, michael moore is the man... go moore go !