cristian vogel @ karlsruhe 28.3.2003 / neo tokyo club

[KaOz]

well me + girlfriend and kungfoo wanna visit cris at thie new location in karlsruhe and it would be nice if some other guys from the board are there too.

cheers

chris

[spencer]

KaOz, where is karlsruhe?

[M H]

Kinda between frankfurt and Stuttgart???

[DsD]

M H jup something like that ;)

KaOz how much do u pay if ì`ll come too?

[Tomoki]

Originally posted by spencer
KaOz, where is karlsruhe?

Karlsruhe is there, where the people are talking this special funny dialectlol

[kungfoo]

hajo, so isch des :>

[KaOz]

zeh weehze :)

[marcel]

Originally posted by Tomoki


Karlsruhe is there, where the people are talking this special funny dialectlol
i thought that was chemnitz..

[DsD]

no chemnitz is not in germany... ;)

[deccard]

Originally posted by DsD
no chemnitz is not in germany... ;)

muhahaha hust hust

[DsD]

hey it`s ddr. thats true... ;)

[deccard]

hehe die mauer in den köpfen :)

[marcel]

hey, you bastards. noone fucks karl and us chemnitzheads! ähm,
http://christsbride-min.org/Marx%20karl-580061.jpg
mkay? ddr, ts.. fucking wessis...:)

[jukka]

hey, we had the bananas first and the cool jinglers wear :D

but ähm we are all a bit intolereant as you know.....:-p

[marcel]

and we had erich and his amazing hats!

[jukka]

not to forget about "sandmann" and the original "baumkuchen" .

[c s]

most incredible thing i ever heard of was PILSATOR. guess what it was... ;)

[DsD]

spreewaldgurken. good old ddr food ;)

Zieht den ossis die mauer wieder hoch! *sing* ;)

[aleks]

Originally posted by c s
most incredible thing i ever heard of was PILSATOR. guess what it was... ;)

my mates and i always used to call pils...pilsator. and the day we discovered that there is really a beer called pilsator i almost started to cry. btw it tastes awful...

[marcel]

lol nether heard of that one. sounds funny

[KaOz]

damn. that was a strange night. this club sucks. strange door, strange owners, strange prices. iam really pissed off. travelled 160 km for this club, and then this guy from the door said that he will kickin my ass out of the club, only coz ive asked for guestlist. the other nf people had the same problems. strange club.

[kungfoo]

The people obviously liked the set, but it wasn't the usual cristian-vogel-style of music. A few good tracks here and there, but the rest was more like standard-loop-techno.

[KaOz]

well, the most people want this kind of music there, and as dj u have to play music like the crowd it want. there was only 6-8 "open minded people" in this club, which no future flava

[CHIP TRONIC]

RHEIN NECKAR suckz!!

They only want the standard loop sound or laidback tech house.

I want everything.

[invisibleplanet]

Well, If Vogel played 'everything' ... world rhythms, jazz techno house avant garde electro boogie, I certainly wouldn't complain - I want to be filled with sound....

[jukka]

well a dj should play what he likes to play !!!

[CV]

Well - yes there was some loop sound , but thats all part of it too isn't it ? - I played remix 2 from the two remixes by AFX CD , which I've always wanted to play and that song alone contains quite a lot of 'everything' - I dropped 21st Century Fix - imagine me phreakin out inside, playing that 'Oi' style track from this amazing new double in deepest Germany... I played disco , I mixed some pioneering electronic concret stuff .. it was all in there - the club space , and the raver crew , made it feel bland - it wasn't me!

and apologies if you had that guest list trouble - I don't think we organised a guest list for this weekend , so really sorry if you had to endure some bouncer aggression ...

[invisibleplanet]

yeah - loop sounds build the trance...
IS repetion important for this?

[Weishaupt]

Originally posted by invisibleplanet
yeah - loop sounds build the trance...


hm....

[KaOz]

cristian there was a guestlist made by emma :) but these club owners are too stupid to give them the securitys or something. whatever. iam not anrgy about this night and i accept ur set and so on. the people want this sound there. u cant play regular brighton style only for 3 people.

cheers

[Weishaupt]

Originally posted by KaOz
u cant play regular brighton style only for 3 people.

cheers

why not?

[KaOz]

why?

[Weishaupt]

Originally posted by KaOz
why?

blind?

3 people

[maudular]

Originally posted by invisibleplanet
yeah - loop sounds build the trance...
IS repetion important for this?

sometimes ip you ask odd questions

[Weishaupt]

sometimes i i didnt say things coz i think the people doesnt understand it.
sometimes i play record coz i think the people doesnt understand it.

am i wrong?

[invisibleplanet]

originally by Weishaupt
hm

what do I know about DJ-ing?
nothing.

I only dance

sorry if my remarks appeared naive.

[Weishaupt]

Originally posted by invisibleplanet


what do I know about DJ-ing?
nothing.

I only dance



jup...im just a attendant.............

[invisibleplanet]

Originally posted by maudular


sometimes ip you ask odd questions

possibly odd...but...

i need answers :)
and i'm a lousy speeler lol

[CHIP TRONIC]

of course everything consists of loops.

So it makes no sense to reject loop based music.
techno itself consists of loops and samples.

But it´s quite useless to start a discussion about how many "ordinary" techno tracks should be played in a set.
It is also useless to complain that LiveActs use prepared loops in a liveSet. Then you could also complain about djs using records or mp3s.


In my opinion Djs and LiveActs can play what they want how they want.

they aren´t bucket carriers. they are performers.
As long as it is entertaining it is cool.

[phil]

yeah - loop sounds build the trance...

Do you go in to a Trance IP?

[Lady E]

i did send the guestlist, i will be complaining to the club about this and i dont think cristian will want to play there again

[invisibleplanet]

²phil: yes, i can enter a trance-like state when i dance - it's a 'drug' to me@dance/music. i'm sure everyone can do this :)

normally, in public, i don't enter this state for long, because there are so many other things to consider, such as being aware of, and interacting with the people around me, so the 'trancing out' is reserved for all-nighters or private parties and the music /sound system does have to be particularly good for this.

²chip tronic: excellent explanation :)

[phil]

Is it dangerous to go in to a trance?

[KaOz]

Originally posted by emma
i did send the guestlist, i will be complaining to the club about this and i dont think cristian will want to play there again

emma: yeah and i think they recieved the guestlist, but they are stupid and want the money and shit. well whatever. dont be angry about that. this club suckz.

[kungfoo]

hehe.. poor karlsruhe :<
I wonder how much the club-athmosphere affects the perception of music.
Anyway, this set of Cristian wasn't quite that what I expected, but I expected pretty much after the blasting performance @ neue heimat :>

[DsD]

@ cristian: i think u played a very good set at neue heimat and we can`t compare it with the night in karlsruhe but it was okay.

@ emma: i think that club didn`t want to recive the list. the other dj had 4 people on his list and the guy at the door said there where only 3 on it. thx for the try ;)

i think the night wasn`t very bad cause now i found very funny people. i know... laughing about people and they way they are dresst is not nice... but i love it ;)