23

[phil]

Does anyone know the exact origin of the "23" shit?....was it the 23rd of July when the long dog days begin and Sirius transmits to earth, or what?

[mr franks]

ask decadnids, he knows all aboot this 23 shit.

[phil]

ok. well ive read all of RAW and i know William Burroughs mentions it, but thats bout it..

[mr franks]

...then u know mor than me!

[decadnids]

23 human chromosomes
its within us all.

[debord]

I think The Illuminatus! Trilogy by Robert Shea and Robert Anton Wilson has a lot to do with the modern love of 23 - inbetween their fnording they drop a lot of 23 action - also the KLF layed a lot of 23's in the collective subconcious.
It's pretty neat number I reckon.

[phil]

guess what i was born on the 26th of the 11th 76
2+6+1+1+7+6 = 23



some copy and paste shiznit



The Roman Catholic Church counts on the whole 23 dogmas: twelve are included in the symbol of the apostles and eleven have been defined by the Church. The last is that of the Assumption - 1950. The Virgin Mary, in her appearances in Amsterdam at the Netherlands, 1945 to 1984, prophesied however that a last "final dogma of Mary" would be adopted by the Catholic Church that would proclaim her "Co-Redeemer, Mediator and Advocate", which would summarize and explains the theology of Mary and "would crown" Our Lady. This last dogma, added to the 23 others to give 24, would summarize the whole of the doctrine of the Church.

The Cabalists affirm that, in the present times, a letter is missing in the Torah. This letter of the alphabet does not appear at all in our "eon" and also is not used in the Torah. The primitive divine alphabet and all the Torah also would base on a series of 23 letters, and not 22, which one is become invisible for us and will reappear only during a next terrestrial period. And it is only because this letter misses now everywhere that we read in the Torah the positive and negative precepts. Each negative aspect is in relation with this missing letter of the primitive alphabet.

At the moment of his assassination, Caesar was stabbed 23 times.

The circulation of the blood through all the human body takes 23 seconds.

The number of articulation in the human arm is 23.

The 23 axioms of the geometry of Euclid.

The 23 days of the "physical" cycle in the biorhythm.

The ovule and the spermatozoon are composed both of 23 chromosomes.

Anniversary of marriage: weddings of clock.

[decadnids]

for me the 23 thing is like a simple experiment.
if you go round looking for something you will find it everywhere.
if you try it out, look for money on the floor, if you are always on the look out it slips into your sub-conscious and you will see it everywhere.

the number 23 is just one number that is important (in my opinion)..
for me these other numbers are

0 (ofcourse...the first and the last...)
3
5
7
10
13
17
23
32
42
72

but ofcourse the sequence 0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9 is great as they are the 10 digits that make up all others. like the alphabet, with the 26 characters and the 10 digits.

for the jewish kabbalists the it was the 10 digits and the and the 22 characters of their alphabet. thus getting 32 - the 32 paths of wisdom that are mapped out on their glyph, the tree of life.

[JE:5]

I know that it infiltrated (especially free party) techno culture because of The Spiral Tribe, they always had to catch the number 23 bus in London then they found out it was some kind of cosmic number and started using it all the time.

[penciLneck]

yer , Spiral got me into all of that when I was a youngster, my friends ben and jake were members of Spirals original crew - and they told me that mark (the head honcho) had read cosmic trigger and from then on spiral was synonymous with the number 23, I liked all the artwork they came up with to do with it, still have my original 'breach the peace' poster...ahhh those were the days.


http://host.deluxnetwork.com/~demux/spiral.jpg

[grobelaar]

Not to mention that certain crews heading out across Europe spraying painting 23 on shit...

The way the mystic thread was going, I'm not surprised this came up - for me everything comes down to linguistics. Our languages have become very advanced and very good at describing the world around us - hence everything is very rational. There are still blurred boundaries though - read anything about Quantum Physics, the origins of the universe and search for the The Grand Unified Theory (GUT) and you soon realise that these guys are the new alchemists and that what they are trying to describe lies outside our field of perception...

Earlier languages were less well able to describe the world around them and so some things seemed like magic and those that are able to describe them are magicians...

Mathematics itself is just a language, one that tries to rationally measure the universe, but even here things start to get quite creative, especially around probability and pattern prediction.

Given how much time we spend measuring our universe, its no surprise that some numbers come up as significant. Perhaps if the world was a different shape, or their was more or less planets or we had more or less digits the number would be different...

Any one ever use the I Ching? I have a copy, but have never got round to using it...

[phil]

i use the I Ching. It's worth doing. but you must be head strong.

[penciLneck]

I 've used it a couple of times too, phils right, it is something to be taken seriously - and has given me some invaluable help in times of hardship.

[dirtyho]

higher mathematics show us that our early leaning of numeric systems, i.e. the decimal system is arbitrary (probably cos we have 10 fingers so it's initially easy to visually conceptualise counting this way). Other ways of counting hex, binary etc. are equally valid but only really understood by people good at maths. not me then ;) Also things in maths like fibonnaci spirals appear naturally in shells, plants etc. but also in human, culturally produced, aesthetic forms like the "golden mean".

[decadnids]

I used to use base three for a while as a number system, this was due to my binary days, and hex is good, I like hex.

[Marolo]

Can I just name drop Bryon Gysin, William Burroughs, Throbbing Gristle and psychic tv (who had a cult by the way called temple of psychic youth, whose members had to spit, bleed and cum into a paper with a fantasy or wish written on it on the 23rd hour, on the 23rd day of each month to maintain their membership)

[bitch one]

YONZA BIG WANK

[4md]

I'm born on a 23...

[phil]

michael jordan visited my nan who lives at 23 burger street

[$eye]

i was 23 once...god yeah i remember that...23 eh....mmmm