Wanted - tales from the 'Ardkore days

[V Knid esq]

I'm helping a mate out with his college project of making a pilot issue of a magazine, by writing a history of hardcore/rave/the-bit-between-acid-and-jungle for him. I'd love to hear your thoughts/stories on

- musical lineage: how did techno influence and how was it influenced by hardcore; what are the different offspring of hardcore; what were the different strands at the time etc
- geography: how was the scene different in different countries / regions
- drugs: where you from, what you on?
- vibe: how was it for you?
- the players: who was running tings?
- funny stories...
- etc.

cheers in advance

Knid

[phil]

sounds gay

[MUX]

hell wish i could help out but i never clubbd 'arhcore before...
i do have some pretty good techno stories though :)
sounds great anyhow

i myself was thinking of making a bad graffiti site this week...

( heard a track a couple of weeks ago on RGC called 'you can touch my white gloves but dont touch my glowstick' or sumfing like dat )

[dirtyho]

Musical Lineage: it was mixed I remember harcore anthems like Egyptian Empire Horns with fat 303 lines and 4/4 beats under the breaks, loads of samples of classic house anthems speeded up to mickey mouse speeds, early goldie stuff sounded really fresh, reinforced was my fave label at the time.

Geography: I went to exodus raves in the Luton/Midlands area, loads of cheesy quavers and Luton Bad Boys.

Drugs: Pills, speed, acid, ketamine - us kids couldn't afford coke ;)

Vibe: it was wicked, I had never felt as euphoric or released from inhibitions before, also it was about the only time you could approach Luton bad boys without getting a kicking.

Players: Exodus

Funny stories: when they nicked exodus before a rave, so every one went to luton to protest outside the station, we blocked the main dual carriage way through luton, took loads of pills and danced at the police for 6 hours - then went home and watched ourselves on the tele as police from 3 counties were drafted in. Ha Ha

When some guy was mugging people and selling dodgy drugs, so the crew tied him up fed him loads of acid and then hoisted him from a ceiling joist, stopped the party, announced what he had done and left him there for the rest of the party - a bit harsh admittedly

[phil]

that is well out of order, anyone who "feeds" someone acid without consent is a total cunt in my book.

[dirtyho]

well they thought anyone who come to a free party, mugs people and sells dodgy drugs is a cunt, like I said a bit harsh admittedly

[phil]

should of kicked the shit out of him, not fed him mind altering drugs that well brutal. thats some SS experimental shit.

[bracket]

I used 2 go exodus a few years back - venues were wicked spesh the outdoor ones - nowt better than partying under a blanket of stars!! Stopped goin when the crackheads took over the show.....

@Knid - check out a book called "All crew muss big up!!" by Brian belle-fortune ...quality insight into the days of london orbital raves and the music/culture etc....


(B) -oUt

[phil]

i stayed in on my own making things and reading.

[dirtyho]

heath and reach sandpit that was the bomb - like mad max!

[dirtyho]

@ bracket - yeah I stopped going to exodus when I left home, but I went to one a couple of years later and after going to Lost and things like that in london I was bored by the music and frightened by all the rock-stars. I think the whole jungle scene went that way though. I went to the Paradise club in Islington once circa 1994 and had to leave when the bouncers let in all these yardies who started selling rocks - they were just passing people the pipe and the whole atmosphere changed - I was well scared.

[dirtyho]

@ Knid, I'm sure there have been a couple of documetaries made about exodus. I'll have a look for ya ;)

[bracket]

Various Quarries round woburn sands!! Exodus used 2 party a place that looked like the forest moon of Endor - pretty sure that was round heath and reach - such a cool place......Its a shame that it aint what it used 2 be.......Had some memorable times there - -any boarders remeber the sellotape factory/Woodside??

(B) - oUt

[dirtyho]

Woodside, Dallow Rd, that one by J13 of the M1 they went all over didn't they - I remember following that landie in a 1/2 mile convoy, definitely the outdoor ones were best though - however not recommended for New Years Eve ;)

[invisibleplanet]

can't help either...never partied hardcore.

[bracket]

@dirtyho - convoys were wicked - saw some mad shit, people hoonin down motorways the wrong way!!

Exodus did a do the New years eve just gone - some of my mates went and reported that nothing had changed!! Still playin the same tunes -still drivin about in those damn army trucks - still peddlin crack - i guess some things dont ever change, eh?!?

@knid - i know someone who has the docs dirtyho was on about -i will get back 2 u!!! ; )

(B) - oUt

[wheezer]

simon reynold's energy flash book had a couple of interesting firsthand accounts on the hardcore scene...

[phil]

muggs, is your friend by any chance you?

[V Knid esq]

no, if it was me i'd say it was me.

[phil]

itchy chin