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[TH?]

What about a direct connection between art in design, drawing, graffitie... and electronic music? Ok, there are nice covers ... but why not to connect a vernisage and electronic music??
I'm a bit bored of this fucking "Techno" events/ parties, where you nearly see just silly chickens around you... rarely you find there somebody to have a good talk with! Why is this the normal situation?
Why not making a jam where e.g. graffitie artists
compete with music artists?
What do you think about a change? Make suggestions!!!!!!!!

I'm sure I'll listen to electronic music for the next hmmm...years- I don't know, but probably for my whole life, but I don't think I will go to clubs in 10 years in the way I'll do it now... maybe I shouldn't think about it now and just wait and see what the next years bring, but there is the "but"...?§!$%&/()=?§"

Are there some artists (beside the music artists) under this fucking crew? :)

[piscaries]

here in chicago there's been some groups doing mutli-media installations where digital artists will create interactive computer environments for attendees to play with, accompanied by static art, sculpture, a nicely set ambience, and usually live electronic music performances as well. they seems to be smaller events though and tend to be a bit on the hipster side with a "you need to know these people" vibe. but there definately is room for expansion. much more expansion. it's kind of hard to "compete" in a cross-platform situation. apples and oranges, ya know? but if you just provide more stimulation (visually, audibly, texturally) then it may make these events less.. standard? do what you feel needs to be done!

[wheezer]

we had a huge graffiti/hiphop event here, initiated by some high school kids and <a href="http://www.kiasma.fi/www/viewresource.php?id=3Gbwv8Laki q0Gl3_&lang=en&preview=">the local modern art museum</a> - it was fun, and I'd rather like to see that kinda stuff happening more around here... still have one 8 meter graffiti (split into two 4 meter canvases) sprayed by a German artist hanging here in my living room...

[pille'ocheoni]

word up..............i agree, but i have to say atlanta allready has it on lock down, they have the best visual and art design with music shows ive ever seen. redrum is fucking awsome gallery that hold little experimental artists. great

[invisibleplanet]

cool topic..

i hope the art/film/graphic/visual element will become more important...maybe dance too, and hopefully with some cultural meaning! not just the repeated images from a projector which often is found in a club. i don't go to clubs on drugs, as the music and dance affect me greatly with no need for anything else, and i'm not feeling safe to be off my head on a lurve drug in public. I'm quite talkative though, in the coffee bar.i think that clubs evolve to meet the mood of the day, and so i'm certain things won't remain static.

In Rochdale, Greater Manchester, UK, a scheme was begun to give areas to local graffitti artists to showcase their art.
at first, the council gave subways to the artists, and this had the effect of reducing crime against people, ie muggings and rapes, and some subways which were deemed unusable because of the fear of attack, are now places of congregation and safety.
the scheme did so well, that an international graffitti event is planned by local street artists for June of this year, and they plan to invite street artists from France and Germany to come over for a week of graffiti celebrations and shows.
The council, and a local charity called 'People Print' plan to run a project for young people which will include drawing workshops, street art demonstrations, visits to the designated sites in Rochdale, and channel the energies of young graffitti artists from an early age.

at dedbeat this year, their will be an hour long film of super_collider tv...it will be shown in bristol in march too, when jamie lidell plays there with yee king. i'm looking forward to seeing this.

I wouldn't know the first thing about what kind of software people use to create a music-linked multimedia visual for an electronic music event..i'd like to learn though, as i have plenty of ideas.

[invisibleplanet]

Originally posted by wheezer
we had a huge graffiti/hiphop event here, initiated by some high school kids and <a href="http://www.kiasma.fi/www/viewresource.php?id=3Gbwv8Laki q0Gl3_&lang=en&preview=">the local modern art museum</a> - it was fun, and I'd rather like to see that kinda stuff happening more around here... still have one 8 meter graffiti (split into two 4 meter canvases) sprayed by a German artist hanging here in my living room...

totally cooool
thanks for the link

[arar]

Good thread, isnt DJ Spooky into this kind of thing?..Any links about history/music/youth/especially black youth events would be of interest to me thanks

[TH?]

thanks for your opinions and experiences! seems that in some citys over the world happen such events, but not ordinary! From time to time there are jams, vernisages, where also come multi media art together with electronic music, but hope this will be more and more in general!

enjoyed for example that the Super Collider crew had a projector and for example an old record player where they live created the tunes! Does anybody know the name of the SC_visualist? He also took part in the live show!!!

[JE:5]

Isn't it Pablo Fiasco?

[Lady E]

yes indeedy

[Andreas]

here in barcelona i know of an event organised by telenoika: http://www.telenoika.org/ i think it is a really good iniciative, because they team up a dj with a vj and let them play at once... only a shame that almost all the vjs/djs who attend are very trance orientated, i played there first edition and the music was really trancey and still is, but i like the interaction between vj and dj

[gunjack]

hey andreas. did you guys get things sorted with victor?

[Andreas]

yo man... i dont think so. there arent any other dates and victor seems to want a bit too much, the only possibility i see is you participate on the dj battle we are organizing on the 21 of march, but that wasnt really the idea... the idea was to make a night only for you and presenting only gunjack... i think we will have to leave it and try it next time you are around...

[gunjack]

maybe talk to undress..... i heard something about the 14th...

as for the 21st, i am gonna have to pass because i am in germany then. sorry.


and sorry for hijacking the thread.

[Andreas]

ok i will check, it could be really cool to get something going...

[gunjack]

jea!:!

[pille'ocheoni]

gunny, how do i get on your mail list?

[gunjack]

hey bro, no problem, e-mail me agian please with yer addy. i know alot of ppl on the board are still waiting for wax, i just got the dm03 testers and the mailouts will go out in a week or so.....

please hit me up you guys at briangibbs@hotmail.com


:)

[decadnids]

I wouldn't know the first thing about what kind of software people use to create a music-linked multimedia visual for an electronic music event..i'd like to learn though, as i have plenty of ideas. [/B]

a lot of people are coding their own software, it is the best way.

a lot of the time it is down to money and time, people have great ideas but no means to execute them. which is a fucking shame. yeah true you can get funding for stuff.

down in brighton there has been a few ok nights that mix media, but personally I find a lot of it is pretty rubbish, ofcourse it is all subjective and personal.

[karitek]

i am totally into this idea as well. i think that most people don't realize the power you have in putting on a party to control the punters' total experience. usually they just find a venue, get a good lineup and they're done.

i studied art in college and see promoting parties as a type of experiential art. creating lineups is like djing on a bigger scale. you can transform the venue into unique environments. and combine that with performance art and visuals.

there seems to be a lot of crews in nyc doing stuff with combining music and art at parties, but from what i remember from 3 yrs ago and what i hear about now, the music is usually lacking in quality. but i have been getting a lot of ideas.

at kooks, we are gonna have performance artists do performances between acts and during the night. if anyone has any ideas or wants to get involved please email me - .info@kookslondon.com .

[decadnids]

at kooks, we are gonna have performance artists do performances between acts and during the night. if anyone has any ideas or wants to get involved please email me - .info@kookslondon.com . [/B]

I feel that the real issue is that people are expecting a CLUB and when they go somewhere and get a load of performance art they think they have stepped into the wrong venue. (if that makes sense).

what sort of performances are your artists gonna be doing? There is no doubt, in my mind, that a lot of people are getting a little fed up of just going to a venue to hear pre-recorded musick, hence the popularity of bands again.

is a club a place people go to get out of their mash? or are you really looking to explore TAZ (temporary autonomouse zones).

[phil]

What sort of stuff does he do ?

[phil]

re-using stuff is pretty good.

On a daily basis, for example i use Tescos plastic bags as a bin that hangs off a door knob, so we get 2 uses from that which is good.

[Lady E]

very responsible

[phil]

bless him

[kungfoo]

We have a club here in Karlsruhe, which combines graphic art and music (Gotec-ev). It's located in an old factory-building, the whole floor layed out with parquet - livingroom-athmosphere :) They feature a specific artist every two weeks or so and you can walk around and watch the pictures while people are dancing around you. Unfortunately they do not play very experimental music there, but it's O.K. for Karlsruhe anyway.

[Sheridan]

I have always liked the idea, and as I have been getting older I have dreamt more of djing in an art gallery than a club.
one kinda of cool thing I saw once was a party in dc. it was halloween and the movie 'the blair witch project' had just come out.
so they showed the movie at the club on a big wall. and the movie was synced to the tempo of the beat. so for every kick drum you heard the movie would move forward a little bit. it was very trippy.

[karitek]

Originally posted by decadnids


I feel that the real issue is that people are expecting a CLUB and when they go somewhere and get a load of performance art they think they have stepped into the wrong venue. (if that makes sense).

i think the plan is to sorta incorporate the whole thing into the night, have people walking around the venue during the party, as well as stuff up on stage...one of the things i used to really like about london squat parties was the absurdities that happenned during them, like people being rolled through the party in wheel barells or my friend carly marching through the party with a palm tree. when we say performance art, i don't mean stuffy, over-your-head type stuff. more just stuff to add to the crazy idiot-syncracies of the night.

Originally posted by decadnids There is no doubt, in my mind, that a lot of people are getting a little fed up of just going to a venue to hear pre-recorded musick, hence the popularity of bands again.

hence the reason the night is all live acts (even the warmup and chillout)...we want people to leave hearing music they've never heard before all night. i am sure that it will take a couple of parties for kooks to be what phil and i have in mind for it, but we want to make a step in this direction...

[invisibleplanet]

inter-crowd-performance-art is a great idea; making alternative external focal points for the party-goers; super-real and surreal. they can help people prepare for the unexpected, leaving them more open to new ideas...

kari - do u do this performance art?

[karitek]

no i dont do performance art...my main medium is drawing and collage, but i havent done that seriously for a couple of years.

i think my main talent is seeing other people's talents and putting them together in a creative way. we have a crew from brazil who are doing the performance art, but like i said anyone who wants to be involved (even if u dont live in london and just have some suggestions, ideas) get in contact - info@kookslondon.com

[Sheridan]

so kari with you living in new york how are you working for kook?
are you just doing promotions or are you actually helping them to run the parties??

[karitek]

phil (dj sueme, half of subhead) and i are doing the party together. he's based out of london so he takes care of flyering and getting tickets around to record shops, etc. while i do the online promotion and design.

a month before i left england, we decided to do the party together and come up with the concept, venue and lineup.
it seems to be working pretty well. quite good actually coz i can get ideas from nyc and he can get ideas from his giggin round europe and put it all into the club.

as far as the actual party goes, i am coming into london the week before the party (excuse to visit!) to sort out all the last minute details. flights between nyc and london are very cheap.

[namshub]

I perform wif these guys when we R all in town together.

http://kubrick.cdes.qut.edu.au/~pattendt/ksite/

[arar]

A bit of a co-incidence to see "Kubrick" I remember going to a gig in Glasgow in about 1980 completely wacked out, with a fuzzy copy of A Clockwork Orange being palyed on a screen the background, as the bands were on, and various other strange stuff going on..it was all very arty, trashy, arch...as a lot of mulitmedia types things I think can be...warehouse parties in London in the early eighties I was at were pretty mental but..not exactly chill out more freak out, with an awful lot going on at once, I clearly remember thinking I was gonna die on the way into one the crush got so bad..strange days..

[karitek]

the graf near me is quite amazing actually. there is a lot of really unusual, arty stuff in the neighborhood next to me, williamsburg. i am selling my analogue camera and getting a digital one...once i do, i'll take some photos and share. i have never seen graffiti like this.

[MUX]

i saw some scribbling graffiti last week that made me giggle & think..

It said ' do you think godzilla was scared of......?'

[decadnids]

Originally posted by karitek


hence the reason the night is all live acts (even the warmup and chillout)...we want people to leave hearing music they've never heard before all night. i am sure that it will take a couple of parties for kooks to be what phil and i have in mind for it, but we want to make a step in this direction...

thats cool. I like seeing live acts, I know it shouldn't matter etc etc, but I kust like the fact that the musick you are listening to at a venue has the influence of the time and the place.

[karitek]

i love live acts. i know as a listenner, i get much more excited and feel more energy when a (good) live act comes on. i am very interested to find out if this holds true with a whole night of live acts...

[lowtide]

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