Sanctions on Germany from the US [Archive]

phil

18th February 2003, 12:32

Have you heard about this?? America are removing all their Army bases from Germany, which will cost Germany millions. The American government are total cunts.

gunjack

18th February 2003, 12:40

Originally posted by phil
The American government are total cunts.

one would assume it was a given at this point, no?

actionjetzon

18th February 2003, 12:43

fuck´em!

deccard

18th February 2003, 12:51

this way of punishing other states is nothing new for the us.
it´s new that a state like germany gets punished for "misbehaviour".

"drop bush not bombs"

Basic

18th February 2003, 12:53

http://www.observer.co.uk/international/story/0,6903,896573,00.html

pille'ocheoni

18th February 2003, 13:07

i just live here. it doesnt mean i have to like it!

bitch one

18th February 2003, 13:07

here's a thing that occurred to me the other day when watching the news about france - france has had lots of terrorist attacks from arabs in the past. maybe this partly explains why they are so nervous about joining the invasion - france is full of potential terrorists. i haven't heard anyone mention this on the british news for some reason.

actionjetzon

18th February 2003, 13:10

Originally posted by pille'ocheoni
i just live here. it doesnt mean i have to like it!

don´t take it personal pille, i mean fuck the us government!
they don´t make friends this times

phil

18th February 2003, 13:12

I cant believe it they a running an advert which shows an audio BMW and Mercedez with the tag line "Would you buy a german car?"

http://www.guardian.co.uk/germany/article/0,2763,895340,00.html

pille'ocheoni

18th February 2003, 13:13

k...........im just a poduct of my own stupid country and their stupid decisions. im forced to have such strong opioions in issues that cause this country to hate each other, i feel i have to defend my own ground even against the country that says im free. im forced to be part of a draft if it ever comes into effect. i just dont want to be forced anymore.

pille'ocheoni

18th February 2003, 13:15

ill be the first one to say it. my country and their decisions are one of the most arogant, ignorant, selfish, capitalisms in the world. we contridict are selves and defy the very essence of what we call the constituion, bill of rights, etc...

phil

18th February 2003, 13:16

yeah the us is fucking grim.

gunjack

18th February 2003, 13:18

Originally posted by pille'ocheoni
im forced to be part of a draft if it ever comes into effect. i just dont want to be forced anymore.

i have a link somewhere that says that will never happen.

wheezer

18th February 2003, 13:19

Originally posted by phil
I cant believe it they a running an advert which shows an audio BMW and Mercedez with the tag line "Would you buy a german car?"

hehe, that's pretty funny considering bmw opened a huge factory over in alabama when I lived there, really helping the economic situation in that area...if you buy a beamer in the us, you are ensuring a lot of American jobs as well...

pille'ocheoni

18th February 2003, 13:20

really!.................id like to see that link!

pille'ocheoni

18th February 2003, 13:21

accaully its in my city.greenville..the largest bmw factory outside of germany............

wheezer

18th February 2003, 13:25

ah shit, wrong state =) memory is hazy...

invisibleplanet

18th February 2003, 13:29

Originally posted by deccard
"drop bush not bombs"

rofl

I am punishing the US traders, and will buy no USA goods, view no USA films, eat no USA fast food (not that I did anyway), and make sure I buy Brunswick Ham and Westaphalian produce and other German goods....they are well priced in the UK.

Boycott ASDA!
Shop @ Lidl or Netto *hrhr*

U germans don't need the US troops there any longer, and now u know how the US got the UK by it's short and curlys...with the same kind of trade threat.

gunjack

18th February 2003, 13:30

@ pille

http://www.sss.gov/statement.htm

On Wednesday, September 18, 2002, in response to a question about the draft, Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld indicated that there was "not a chance" of reinstituting the draft.

pille'ocheoni

18th February 2003, 13:32

thanks gunny. my worries are subsided

gunjack

18th February 2003, 13:34

yup.

pille'ocheoni

18th February 2003, 13:39

well the buzz today from the marines i go to school with is today is the day............bush will make a stand today. which sucks, and they seem excited and ready to cap anybody that moves. i dont know if its true but, will see. i made a bet last week for 10 dollars that bush would not go to war before march 8. i hope i get my money

4md

18th February 2003, 14:37

france has had lots of terrorist attacks from arabs in the past. maybe this partly explains why they are so nervous about joining the invasion - france is full of potential terrorists.
Well, the only reason is France doesn't think we need a war to resolve the Pb. And Plz dn't sa

4md

18th February 2003, 14:39

sorry....

I was just saying that Fance is NOT full of potential terrorist ... WhY do U say that ? no more Than england for example ...

invisibleplanet

18th February 2003, 14:45

Boycott Levis, Coca-Cola, MacDogs, and Ford

phil

18th February 2003, 14:54

Macdogs, we dont have them down South. is that like Matalan where you get your going out clothes planet?

invisibleplanet

18th February 2003, 14:58

MacDogs=MacDonalds...a family nickname for something which probably doesn't taste as good as deep-fried dog.

What's Matalan? Is it American?
lol I'm too poor to have going-out clothes...so nakedness is the new clothing

invisibleplanet

18th February 2003, 15:15

but really - get to netto/lidl and begin the boycott!
euro food tastes good

phil

18th February 2003, 15:16

what like a pear?

MUX

18th February 2003, 15:18

Spaggetti & dear and stuff
*wink*wink*

bitch one

18th February 2003, 15:20

Originally posted by 4md
sorry....

I was just saying that Fance is NOT full of potential terrorist ... WhY do U say that ? no more Than england for example ...

france has experience of many terrorist attacks from arabs already, a fact which might contribute to the nervousness of the government. or it might not. i'm probably talkin shit, i usually do.

phil

18th February 2003, 15:20

lidel is shit, it doesnt sell heinz beans and wotsits

4md

18th February 2003, 15:42

france has experience of many terrorist attacks from arabs already,
U're right on that fact ... but do we really seem nervous ? not sure ...

invisibleplanet

18th February 2003, 15:52

Originally posted by 4md

U're right on that fact ... but do we really seem nervous ? not sure ...

it would be good if u could tell us what the 'word' in France is regarding the US trade embargo!

mr franks

18th February 2003, 16:15

its ironic that Chirac was voted in last saying he would create new links (trade & political) to usa if i remember right....

4md

18th February 2003, 16:28

its ironic that Chirac was voted in last saying he would create new links (trade & political) to usa if i remember right....

nothing to see with that ... Have you really followed the French elections?

@Invisibleplanet : I just can say that here in france people have enough of these stupid solutions ... Can't tell U more caus' I haven't seen the news today ...

invisibleplanet

18th February 2003, 16:32

Originally posted by 4md

nothing to see with that ... Have you really followed the French elections?

@Invisibleplanet : I just can say that here in france people have enough of these stupid solutions ... Can't tell U more caus' I haven't seen the news today ...

thanks 4md - i wonder do u have any links to online-french newspapers, only i don't know the french press well

I do read several german newspapers, but only once a week
my daily 'rag' is the http://www.guardianunlimited.co.uk

mr franks

18th February 2003, 16:33

4md - i havent been following elections in france but i know Chirac liked the usa and had a pro usa stance before war madness - are ppl in france much anti USA?

4md

18th February 2003, 16:34

yep :
http://www.lemonde.fr
it's the bigger online-french newspapers

invisibleplanet

18th February 2003, 16:36

..thanks!!
/away reading

(does Le Monde mean 'The Mouth'?)

Basic

18th February 2003, 16:38

No, it's an abbreviation of Lemonade

:D

4md

18th February 2003, 16:42

4md - i havent been following elections in france but i know Chirac liked the usa and had a pro usa stance before war madness - are ppl in france much anti USA?

U'right, it was important for the french gouyvernment to have great relations With the Usa, However this doesn't mean we can't have our own opinion ...

Sheridan

18th February 2003, 16:42

I think the whole sanctions thing is the usa taking this way overboard. we are going to get ourselves into way more trouble in the future with these kinds of actions. this type of separation can really end up harming us.

4md

18th February 2003, 16:44

in fact people in France are not against USA, just against Bush & his fuckin' war ...

@IP=> le monde = the world

Basic

18th February 2003, 16:45

Le bouche is the mouth

mr franks

18th February 2003, 16:52

Originally posted by 4md

U'right, it was important for the french gouyvernment to have great relations With the Usa, However this doesn't mean we can't have our own opinion ...

i never said you couldnt

invisibleplanet

19th February 2003, 13:42

*gahn*
*yawn*

read this:

US plans for NEW nuclear arsenal (http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,12271,898550,00.html)

"To me it indicates there are plans proceeding and well under way ... to resume the development, testing and production of new nuclear weapons. It's very serious," said Stephen Schwartz, the publisher of the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists, who added that it opened the US to charges of hypocrisy when it is demanding the disarmament of Iraq and North Korea.

"How can we possibly go to the international community or to these countries and say 'How dare you develop these weapons', when it's exactly what we're doing?" Mr Schwartz said.

fucking hypocrites

pille'ocheoni

19th February 2003, 13:45

mini nukes? shit!............i feel like i should apolgise for such retardness:(

invisibleplanet

19th February 2003, 14:10

Originally posted by pille'ocheoni
mini nukes? shit!............i feel like i should apolgise for such retardness:(

well, don't apologise, and don't feel ashamed, because this renders u helpless, and I guess that's what the right wing would like u to feel about yourself.

I think it takes more mental strength to be a liberal in today's climate of intolerance and right wing governments.

For years, the right, with the likes of the Rush Limbaugh Show or programmes hosted by Oliver North and G Gordon Liddy, have set the agenda, according to supporters of the new network. Now, they say, is the time to fire some broadsides from the left.
(http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,12271,898432,00.html)

pille'ocheoni

19th February 2003, 14:49

well i dont personally feel ashamed, but seeing as all others in the world esspecially you europeans have to suffer this anguish. well you know how i feel about the subject.

Ubik

21st February 2003, 02:17

http://italy.indymedia.org/uploads/hitlerschildren.jpg

jess-ssej

21st February 2003, 03:12

@Ubik ^^that's great. *shakes head* :(

Bush=suxor

@Pille

How old are you? Unless you're 20, you probably don't have to worry about the draft even if it were to happen. I believe (traditionally) they start drafting 20 year olds then step out in alternate years (ie 20 then 19 then 21 etc etc.)

I suggest David Cross' new double cd for some serious comedy relief.

invisibleplanet

21st February 2003, 08:39

too young to drink, but old enough to kill

Weishaupt

21st February 2003, 09:17

jea.....im hitlers baby.......
:-/

nothing about enlightenment in america....................... ....roks!

Ubik

21st February 2003, 12:15

And what about this?
http://images.thesun.co.uk/picture/0,,2003080743,00.jpg
I think we had to stop the three bastard: Bush, Blair and Berlusconi.....

Triptonizer

21st February 2003, 12:34

Originally posted by invisibleplanet
do u have any links to online-french newspapers
does the Sun happen to have an online version?

;)

(seriously, I'd like to see it)

And I read in a Belgian newspaper yesterday US attorney general Ashcroft writes his own gospel songs and then organizes prayer meetings for his department so everybody can sing along.
'The Eagle soares'.... I'm not kiddin u. Would be hilarious, but these nutcases actually govern the most powerful nation in the world.

I wonder if this story is any further from the truth than the one run by Fox last week, in which the Belgian military was depicted as 'too fat and too old to fight anything but their own foul breath'

lol