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Paddy
20th June 2006, 17:13
it's a toughy, but at the moment i'll say The Third Man and The Night of the Hunter, Robert Mitchum was a scary mofo! in fact, i'll add the original Cape Fear to that list, just cos of him.

no doubt i'll think of some more later....

love_tempo
20th June 2006, 17:20
I'd say The Third Man too. I liked the one with the wrestling promoter too but I'm not sure what it is called, something to do with the Night...City at Night maybe.

Recently, Brick was a really good modern take.

spoon
20th June 2006, 17:21
the third man and night of the hunter for sure. also, kubrick's first film - the killing, the maltese falcon, rififi and sunset boulevard - one of the best fims i've ever seen.

i could watch films like those forever!

love_tempo
20th June 2006, 17:24
That reminds me, I've never even seen Rififi. Good bittorrent fodder then...

shuttlecart
20th June 2006, 17:27
kiss me deadly........................ .............................. .....................bleak

spoon
20th June 2006, 17:29
I'd say The Third Man too. I liked the one with the wrestling promoter too but I'm not sure what it is called, something to do with the Night...City at Night maybe.

Recently, Brick was a really good modern take.

night and the city, never seen it but it's supposed to be stunning - must get it on the bt! brick looks interesting too.

bladerunner - sci fi noir!

spoon
20th June 2006, 17:32
That reminds me, I've never even seen Rififi. Good bittorrent fodder then...

there's a remake in the pipeline at the moment, al pacino's going to be in it. the original is just perfect in every way though.

Paddy
20th June 2006, 17:32
the third man and night of the hunter for sure. also, kubrick's first film - the killing, the maltese falcon, rififi and sunset boulevard - one of the best fims i've ever seen.

i could watch films like those forever!

arr, never seen rififi but i've got the rest in a big dvd sleeve right next to me :). i got mention a loads of hitchcock but it'd take too long. also, casablanca is pretty noir.

and yeah, blade runner for sure!

ckpqerjwrpwp
20th June 2006, 17:33
Orson Welles 'Touch of evil' is good, the one with the soundtrack redone by Walter Murch to Welles original sound script.

Loz
20th June 2006, 17:33
I was going to say Blade Runner.

I would also say Following, too. (Christopher Nolan's first film)

spoon
20th June 2006, 17:36
what was that steve martin film from the late 80's early nineties, it was a take on films noir, shot in black and white. i remember it being really good whatever it was...

edit: dead men don't wear plaid, from 1982 so older than i thought http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0083798/ i must watch it again sometime.

love_tempo
20th June 2006, 17:38
That's it, Night and the City. It's brilliant and they show it regularly on Sky Cinema if you know someone that has it.

The sound design in Brick is fantastic. There's loads of nice touches like a little bell ringing when a clue drops and the different footsteps of the baddie (heavy) versus the goodie (light) in an on foot chase scene. Nice the way the ambience changes through the film like when they run through a tunnel.

Another good one is Goddard's A Bout De Souffle but it maybe isn't quite film noir.

ckpqerjwrpwp
20th June 2006, 17:40
what was that steve martin film from the late 80's early nineties, it was a take on films noir, shot in black and white. i remember it being really good whatever it was...

'Dead men don't wear Plaid'?

Chinatown is film noir with teeth.

Paddy
20th June 2006, 17:43
what was that steve martin film from the late 80's early nineties, it was a take on films noir, shot in black and white. i remember it being really good whatever it was...

edit: dead men don't wear plaid, from 1982 so older than i thought http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0083798/ i must watch it again sometime.

Dead Men Don't Wear Plaid?

edit: beat me to it steev

Paddy
20th June 2006, 17:44
it was made in 1982 spoon, but yeah, good film i thought.

spoon
20th June 2006, 17:45
Another good one is Goddard's A Bout De Souffle but it maybe isn't quite film noir.

never seen that one. godard's alphaville is sci fi noir i reckon.

getting a great bt "shopping list" out of this thread!

spoon
20th June 2006, 17:48
it was made in 1982 spoon, but yeah, good film i thought.

cool - so it wasn't shit then, i saw it yeeeears ago so i wonder how it holds up.

@steev: chinatown is just one of the best films ever i reckon, almost a shame that it was shot in colour...

ckpqerjwrpwp
20th June 2006, 17:50
@steev: chinatown is just one of the best films ever i reckon

the entire score was written and recorded in a week!

Paddy
20th June 2006, 17:55
here you go spoon

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0083798/

spoon
20th June 2006, 17:55
they don't make 'em like they used to. have you seen that robert evans biopic/doc the kid stays in the picture? interesting bit about chinatown/polanski in it.

ckpqerjwrpwp
20th June 2006, 17:57
they don't make 'em like they used to. have you seen that robert evans biopic/doc the kid stays in the picture? interesting bit about chinatown/polanski in it.

Nah would really like to see it.. Robert Evans was involved in some amazing films.

penciLneck
20th June 2006, 18:04
The Night of the Hunter is awesome.

Really interested to see what Brick is going to be like.

spoon
20th June 2006, 18:08
Nah would really like to see it.. Robert Evans was involved in some amazing films.

it's well worth checking out - all those great films from the '70s came about because the studios were controlled by producers, particularly evans at paramount. that'll probably never happen again sadly. they knew how to live it too!

spoon
20th June 2006, 18:12
here you go spoon

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0083798/

had totally forgotten about this business...
This was a modern-day version of a 1940s narrative gangster film, also known as film noir, but with a different twist. Steve Martin, Rachel Ward and a few others actors are seen talking to many classic stars of the past as director Carl Reiner used clips of those films to fake conversations with the up-to-date real actors of this film . They made it appear that Alan Ladd, Barbara Stanwyck, Humphrey Bogart et al were actually talking to Martin.
skill!

ivan
20th June 2006, 19:00
aaah, rififi is excellent. maltese as well and then there is The Big Sleep. also bogart ^__^

nikrem
20th June 2006, 19:00
my poisonal faves: "M", "sunset boulevard", and the frankly-fucking-genius "sweet smell of success".

ckpqerjwrpwp
20th June 2006, 19:03
Laszlo bought me sunset boulevard for my birthday last year and I still haven't watched it...

nikrem
20th June 2006, 19:04
save it for your middle-age

love_tempo
20th June 2006, 21:49
Really interested to see what Brick is going to be like.

I hesitate to recommend Brick because it's a film that someone could easily hate and walk out of. It is basically film noir played by snotty american teenagers so you do have to bear with it but somehow it works.

It's not really fair comparing it to Chinatown and stone-cold classics like that. Chinatown is the only film I have on tape that I couldn't bear to get rid of.

solitary_zen
21st June 2006, 01:27
The Third Man
The Lady from Shanghai

thomas hooked
21st June 2006, 02:38
coming to america

cmarakasu
21st June 2006, 16:12
surprised noone's mentioned

melville's le samourai:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0062229/

did you know they have alain delon
cigarettes in cambodia?

they taste like silk suits and bullets.

content
21st June 2006, 16:14
is all the early godard stuff film noir? i love band of outsiders.

ckpqerjwrpwp
21st June 2006, 16:20
is all the early godard stuff film noir? i love band of outsiders.

well it's generally refered to as 'the french new wave', but it was Film Noir that they thought was the best of american cinema.. and the new wave was a reaction to the shlocky, sentimental crap that tended to dominate american cinema in the 60's.. and then the talented american filmmakers drew inspiration from the new wave and made some amazing cinema in the 70's :)

joe pinapples
21st June 2006, 16:25
my favourite film noir that hasnt been mentioned is Orson Welles Mr. Arkadin (1955) ... aka Confidential Report. Great camera work, a bit dodgy on the sound, but its a real all-time classic. and its got welles hamming it up to the pepsi max as Arkadin.