Bowling for Columbine...

[Ruben A]

Went to cinema and watched this tonight...
What a blast!! Shit you american surely have some problems to deal with, huh?? :(

Michael Moore really put this in a different way and face everyone with the truth they can´t run away from...

Anyone seen this documentary??

Comments?

[pille'ocheoni]

yeah ive seen it..............michael should be the president! have you seen his other documentaries? there's like three or four, or maybe more. good flick though. they show that shit at the movie theaters though? its just a b movie. i wish we had b movie theaters here: (.......like maybe a every friday night evil dead/army of darkness thing, everybody brings a fake chiansaw and throws necranomicons.heheheh.didnt mean to get off the subject:)pece/p

[Yer_Maw]

yeah it is really good some great ideas but remember moore is using media techniques of his own to get his point across. he exploits his medium to get an idea accross just as much as the news. still a great documentry but!

[Ruben A]

haha... no, here america is class-A entertainment so it´s in all cinemas around the country!
haha ;)
well, just kidding - we have this little cinema that shows all the less known films and documentaries... really a great place!

Well, I think I have seen some "moore" stuff before - but can´t really remember what?

[alex cortex]

where i am at the moment (germany), "bowling..." is now shown in the 10th week - and this city has only 100.000 residents.

did anyone see his documentary "mickey mouse went to haiti"? it´s mentioned in no logo. i couldn´t find it nowhere.

[Ruben A]

No Logo rocks...! :D

[Tomoki]

I´ve seen it a couple of weeks ago and was really pleased by this movie.
It´s only a documentation, but really thrilling. Only two small independent movies show this movie, but already in the 110th or 11th week.
Must check out the other films by Michael Moore definitely.

[malaclypse]

i work at a cinema here in frankfurt and bowling for columbine kicked lord of the rings out of the bigger right into the smaller cinema.

that gives me a bit hope about people...

[karitek]

yeah, never saw the movie, but have you read his recent book - Stupid White Men. some very funny stuff. quite insightful. I was pretty impressed at how well that movie did in the states - even my parents went to see it and they never see documentaries. i was very mainstream...

[Ruben A]

It´s excellent piece of work!! Ofcourse he can turn it into what he want - but no doubt he´s working on something we all think about. WHY DOES SO MANY PEOPLE GET KILLED BY HANDWEAPON EACH YEAR IN THE US ? It´s a brilliant twist that the americans have to get a gun to feel safe... you have to protect yourself and you family. From what??
Your neighbors and THEIR weapons..!?
Get the point!? What are you so affraid of????

hahahaha

Total freaky stuff - love it!

[FregLes]

Do you remember the sequence, where the entertainer proposed to raise the ammunition costs? Brilliant idea, because everybody would think of more before killing another person, when one shot costs e.g. 2000 $ ...

[Ruben A]

yeah hahaha 5000$... "you were dead now - if I just had those 5000$ so I could place a bullit in your head! I´ll get a job, earn some money and when I have 5000$ I´ll come right back and shoot ya!"

wicked

[baba]

i found 'bowling' reinforced what i presumed were my narrow and sterotypical ideas about Right wing America and justified them, i suppose. The cartoon- potted history of US 'dictator/terrorist/war machine' sponsoring history- was great - so succinct and shocking. Wish they would incorporate the sequence into the Simpsons. And isn't Charlton Heston a cunt? god! the 'man' is a walking shrine to his own racist retarded ego. I'll never be able to watch planet of the apes in the same way again.

[Yer_Maw]

i find is hilarious that heston was in the most anti religion populor film ever made and can still be a rediculous zealot...

[Mui]

finally saw this last night......makes me wonder why the fuck our PM is blindly following this country to war, and why so many people look up to america over here.....when the whole country has gone to shit and made seemingly not one right descision in regards to war/invasion of other countries and distributing 'aid' to others then invading them.....it's not like they've made 1 or 2 mistakes, they've historically made many over time, yet seem to come out of it all like they are the heroes of the world......I tell you what, I reckon our pollies should watch this, then make their descision about going to war again....

[thetonewrecker]

Heston is scum, but Dick Clark wouldn't even talk. *shuts the van door and drives a way* PRICK!!

brilliant film simply for showing the news coverage teams to be the real morons who are forced to chase "sensational" stories and drive the fear home.

[gunjack]

Originally posted by Ruben A
yeah hahaha 5000$... "you were dead now - if I just had those 5000$ so I could place a bullit in your head! I´ll get a job, earn some money and when I have 5000$ I´ll come right back and shoot ya!"







..." shit, he musta done sumpthin! they just put about 50 grand up in his ass."

[wheezer]

@pille

you shall never obtain the necronomicon! you shall die in the graveyard before you get it!

[dirtyho]

Americans are often fearful of stuff - the commies in the 50's etc. They are surely the only people who are actually afraid of Saddam. Americans have roughly equivalent levels of crime to other countries with highly developed economies - but they have much higher levels of fear of crime. I think the US govt. likes to create this climate of fear because it's then easier to justify repressive policies.

[TH?]

...and who helped saddam and also Bin laden to become powerful...???!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!! really questioned that the USA is so undebtful....

Heard that Mr. Bush was sponsored by the US weapon industry as he became president!!! Does anybody know this exactly?

[Sheridan]

Originally posted by dirtyho
Americans are often fearful of stuff - the commies in the 50's etc. They are surely the only people who are actually afraid of Saddam. Americans have roughly equivalent levels of crime to other countries with highly developed economies - but they have much higher levels of fear of crime. I think the US govt. likes to create this climate of fear because it's then easier to justify repressive policies.

well the fear of crime is what justifies the incredible level of prodocution for state and local prisons. the american prison industrial complex is larger than the entire american automoblie industry. and it is that fear that drives it home. but it really isn't so much the government that perpetuates the fear, it is more so the media. there is an old news reporting adage which states: "if it bleeds, it leads". so if there is a murder it is the first story you will hear about. and since there is such competition among news stations they have to put on all the death and rape, etc first. when in actuality, the nations murder rate is the same it was 20 years ago. it went down during the mid 90's when clinton was in office, and it has increased a little in the past two years. but it has not risen over 20% in 20 years.

[k-dub]

I haven't seen the movie yet, but I'm a fan of Moore's. My friend and partner in crime AimeeG (of aimeeg.com) has the entire DVD set of his old TV show "The Awful Truth". One episode has him and a troupe of homos driving around in a pink winnebago called "The Sodomobile", breaking all of the known sodomy laws in the various states that have them. Another has him and former MTV VJ Duff teaching karate to senior citizens in care homes so they can beat the shit out of their abusive nurses/caretakers. bizarre, but always entertaining.

[invisibleplanet]

what gets me about the states is that oral sex is illegal in all but about 2 states.

but hey - u can have a gun.

[Sheridan]

there is more than just oral sex outlawed. in the state of virginia where I live all sexual acts and positions are against the law except for the missionary position. a lot of these laws are just archaic ones that were put in placed as way to harrass homosexuals.

[dirtyho]

Yeah Sheridan, prisons are BIG business in the states. There's a hell of a lot of people locked up there (mostly black people, although its totally disproportionate the offence committed). I can't remember the exact stats but you are loads more likely to get the death sentence in the US if yopu are black and murder a white person than if you are black and murder a black person.