nofuture front page gets an update

[CV]

at the http://www.no-future.com/index.php page, you should now see the last.fm weekly chart, and hopefully for PC users its not a mess anymore , although i have no idea where the bug in the nested tables is, so can someone have a look and let me know what it looks like


also, does anyone have that link to the full transcript of Jamie's interview with Rob Young in the Wire? I want to post it in our writing forum

[phil]

no

[marcel]

fine on winxp and firefox1.5

[notorious J.I.M]

Originally posted by admin.



also, does anyone have that link to the full transcript of Jamie's interview with Rob Young in the Wire? I want to post it in our writing forum

It's here (http://www.thewire.co.uk/web/unpublished/jamie_lidell.html)

[V Knid esq]

Looks fine on Internet Explorer 6 (i'm in a web caff)

[JonnySpeed]

IE 6 on XP. The middle column looks a bit too thin and the right column has an extened background that stretches right for 3x the width of the content.

[CV]

thats the bug JonnySpeed - it works well on everything except ¡E6 on XP - it does my nut in - i can;t seem to fix it

[schlongfingers]

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[schlongfingers]

the only bug i spotted straight off was here:

<a href="http://www.no-future.com/vbulletin/search.php?s="></a></form></td>
</tr>

</td></table>

which should be:

<a href="http://www.no-future.com/vbulletin/search.php?s="></a></form></td>
</tr>

</table>

but i dont think thats the cause and cant see the issue as i'm on mac

[penciLneck]

there's quite a few problems with it. a lot of the code is commented out for a start, perhaps the original template did work at one point.

I could redo the whole lot in css if you want. make it 5 lines of code instead of 500.

[grobelaar]

Originally posted by JonnySpeed
IE 6 on XP. The middle column looks a bit too thin and the right column has an extened background that stretches right for 3x the width of the content.

see where your love of all things Microsoft get you... :)

[decadnids]

Originally posted by penciLneck
there's quite a few problems with it. a lot of the code is commented out for a start, perhaps the original template did work at one point.

I could redo the whole lot in css if you want. make it 5 lines of code instead of 500.

yeah CSS it !!! CSS rules!

tables are darkside.

[Spandex]

I can do tables. CSS is voodoo. It comes out diffrunt in everything.

[penciLneck]

not if you do it right. it takes more sweat, but I can do cross platform/ cross browser layouts. its my job.

[grobelaar]

Originally posted by penciLneck
not if you do it right. it takes more sweat, but I can do cross platform/ cross browser layouts. its my job.

don't you wish there was just one format?

[Spandex]

Yeh.. I know you *can* do CSS cross-browser. What I mean is *I* can't :)

Find it slightly annoying tbh.. we all learnt how to do crossbrowser tables for formatting... then they came along and said "But now we've got an all new standard thing for doing layout... will work cross browser"... and it turned out it was just another set of arbitrary bugs and workarounds that you had to learn.. same as before. I gave up on frontend stuff back in 1998 tbh. Drove me mental... i do VERY ugly mockups and leave it to someone good to do the front bit now :)

[phil]

humor me for a minite. imagine the front page didnt exist. would it matter in the scheme of things?

[penciLneck]

Originally posted by grobelaar


don't you wish there was just one format?

no, coz then I wouldn't get paid as much and it wouldn't be very challenging. plus you can do a lot more with css, and in a more accessibly and semantically correct manner, its both presentational and stylistic.

but.. its IE thats the only problem child as far as adherence to specs goes. so ditch ie and presentational css is no longer black magic for common coders.


@spandex, yes it is a real hassle, all the workarounds. but it does develop a community of common thought and hopefully this aids in developing better and more determinable standards.

[penciLneck]

anyway its all reeeeeally boring, but the long and the short of it is that css is better. so there. but tables are not satan, they are still good for some things.

like eating on.

[grobelaar]

Originally posted by penciLneck


no, coz then I wouldn't get paid as much

Hah, I knew it... :)

[wheezer]

check out http://www.princeton.edu/ for an example why css roxors.... one of the cleanest I've seen

[CV]

PenciLneck - if you rewrote the homepage portal , or even we knocked up a completely new portal, it would be amazing - I'm just don't have the skills or patience to go through this template-constructed code - its really annoying...

do you think we might ever fix it

The homepage/frontpage portal is important, as it is the first steps into the whole site, and for me as an artist with labels , its a priority above the forums.... I'm sure you understand that.

[phil]

hope your paying the man.

[JonnySpeed]

Originally posted by grobelaar


see where your love of all things Microsoft get you... :)

hook... caught. I only love Excel. I have to use XP and IE 6 on my works laptop. its the law.

[penciLneck]

Originally posted by admin.

do you think we might ever fix it



I'll give it a crack this weekend, if I can take the queries out of the existing template, it should be ok. I'll make a sandbox page and have a play with it. make me an admin or email me the template and I'll send you a link once I have something up and running.