Dyslexia

[Konx-om-Pax]

gonna get tested for it on monday. 50/50 in thinking that i might actually have it. crap at anything that involves numbers or writing. my mate colin is 30 and just found out he had it last week, artschool are givin him lots of stuff. worth a shot if i might win something.

[emef]

i sometimes think i have dyslexia but only with numbers
numbers often seem to jumble up in front of me
is there a type of dyslexia only with numbers not letters
(i'm not joking btw)

[bitch one]

funny how if they can put a medical name to it they give you loads of stuff, but if youre 'just' crap at letters and numbers it's your own fault.

it's a funny old world.

[JE:5]

There was a documentary about that a while back, they came to the conclusion that rather than just dishing out laptops to kids they should use the money to for one on one tutoring.

[scott confusion]

what puzzles me is why the word dyslexia is hard to spell lol

[e_wann]

erutufon

[Paddy]

i thought this thread was about drexciya.

[JE:5]

lol

[Paddy]

Originally posted by emef
i sometimes think i have dyslexia but only with numbers
numbers often seem to jumble up in front of me
is there a type of dyslexia only with numbers not letters
(i'm not joking btw)

that's apparently called 'dyscalcula' mike, and i reckon i have it too. unfortunately the powers that be have only just recognised it as a problem. when i was at school i just 'didn't try hard enough' at maths, even though i genuinely couldn't do it. i'm having to do a bit of maths at college at the moment, 5th year level, and i struggle.

[Yer_Maw]

yeah, but is it not just quite hard? i thought 5th year maths was.

[bitch one]

..plus good maths teachers are rare as hen's teeth. only a small percentage of people can teach themselves maths i reckon..you both come across as smart people, i don't think you need to have a 'disease' to be bad at maths, just not ever been taught in a way that suits your personality.

arithmetic is something you have to practise like mad to get good at too.

[Lighter Thief]

Originally posted by bitch one
..plus good maths teachers are rare as hen's teeth. only a small percentage of people can teach themselves maths i reckon..you both come across as smart people, i don't think you need to have a 'disease' to be bad at maths, just not ever been taught in a way that suits your personality.

arithmetic is something you have to practise like mad to get good at too.

Word.

[gunjack]

Originally posted by niknak
i thought this thread was about drexciya.


ottid

[FiST]

i loved 5th yr maths, almost did it in 6th yr but did 6th yr physics instead, only to drop it after 6 months.

[Lighter Thief]

Originally posted by FiST
i loved 5th yr maths

Proof, as if it were required, that you're a weirdo.

[bitch one]

as phil would say:

maths acid

http://www.thechestnut.com/number/ep02.jpg

[christtjj]

man i'm dyslexia. fo realz tho

[gypsy_cream]

i wouldnt mind getting a test done... i'm scared shit of writing essays and stuff (not only cos i hate them) i feel that i'm quite good at grammar and spelling for myself and when needed but when it comes to essays/writing/etc i feel very muddled up.... or maybe my teachers didn't help me enough at school?

[Yer_Maw]

ive got a mate with it. he cant read out his telephone number.

[gypsy_cream]

thats more severe dyslexia surely though? ,....i think there's different strains of it or am i wrong?

[Yer_Maw]

i couldnt tell you, i think the argument surrounding it is pretty much at what point does the severe illness just becomes human cognitive variance, or something that needs practice.

its just a subject im interested in, although more when its applied to mental illess. Whether or not labelling someone who has a 'minor' problem, such as mild depression, or even a small psychotic episode, which they carry for life, does them more harm than if they were just to deal with it themselves and get on with it.

[Lighter Thief]

It's an interesting one... I think things are often labelled too quickly. Can't spell? DYSLEXIC! Can't do maths? YOU HAVE THAT ILLNESS THAT NIC NAK TOLD US THE NAME FOR!

Does it not often come down to what you're actually interested in? If you enjoy reading and writing, you will spend more of your time doing it and perhaps, subconsciously will take more care in these areas when producing your own output. I fucking hate maths, I can't do it and I find it boring, but I don't think I have an illness, I just think it's a bit shitty, and would rather expend my time and energy doing something else.

[gypsy_cream]

i'm interested in it too... but i've just woken up and can't really comment much on it hehe

[gunjack]

i have taught dyslexic kids before, once the problem is identified it really helps

[gypsy_cream]

Originally posted by Lighter Thief
It's an interesting one... I think things are often labelled too quickly. Can't spell? DYSLEXIC! Can't do maths? YOU HAVE THAT ILLNESS THAT NIC NAK TOLD US THE NAME FOR!

Does it not often come down to what you're actually interested in? If you enjoy reading and writing, you will spend more of your time doing it and perhaps, subconsciously will take more care in these areas when producing your own output. I fucking hate maths, I can't do it and I find it boring, but I don't think I have an illness, I just think it's a bit shitty, and would rather expend my time and energy doing something else.

some of it probably does come down to that but i know some people that got shitloads of help with their dyslexia and tried hard in the most rich posh schools and they still fuck up.. so i think dyslexia is real but the term's maybe dished out too much

[gunjack]

of course it is real! anyone who says it isnt is an idiot.

[Lighter Thief]

I don't think there's any dispute that it's real, but I think, as gypo says, that the term is probably over-used.

Anyway, who asked you, you fucking American? ;)

[JonnySpeed]

Maths is like anything - you have to work at it. some of it requires rewiring your brain to unstand - like listening to 2 records at the same time comes naturally to some people and (like me) unnaturally to others. but like some people are tone deaf, no matter what you do and others are blessed with absolute pitch. same with letters and numbers. I'm excellent at maths but find reading number sequences a bit mad and get jumbled myself... and I've got an MSc in Applied Maths

[gypsy_cream]

i loved english at school but everytime i got asked to read something out, i was fuckin scared and writing essays on my own with no help was hell and i have to reread over sentences alot....all sounds like typical dyslexia shit to me but i never realised at school.

[gunjack]

Originally posted by Lighter Thief
I don't think there's any dispute that it's real, but I think, as gypo says, that the term is probably over-used.

Anyway, who asked you, you fucking American? ;)


hey is that my clipper?

[JonnySpeed]

if you can read and write on this forum then you probably don't have dyslexia.

The stuff you're talking about clair is pretty normal and might be just mild learning difficulties, that as you say probably just needed some 'special' help

;)

[gypsy_cream]

nah! i bet theres plenty of dyslexics on this forum who can get by ok on here

[JonnySpeed]

http://www.barryboys.co.uk/photos2/dyslexic.jpg

[gypsy_cream]

lol

[Konx-om-Pax]

it takes me ages to post shit cos i'm always double checking spelling and rewriting stuff so i don't come across as stupid.

took me a day for this one.:)

[TEC-HO]

I'm a dyslexic. Sometimes it can be a real problem, like i can't even string an email together. Other times i can write 2000 or so words of high standard academic work in no time (aided by spellcheck). With math's, I'm just shit. My problem was made far worse by not receiving a secondary education. And the fact that i took loads of acid at a young age probably didn't help.

[JonnySpeed]

The only girl I knew with dyslexia couldn't read or write at all. maybe she was a very servere case. She said that when she looks at words they absoluely make nosense at all.

[gypsy_cream]

sounds like she's just illiterate haha

[Jeniffer Mills]

Originally posted by JonnySpeed
http://www.barryboys.co.uk/photos2/dyslexic.jpg

Hahahahaha... Great pic! I just spotted my cooker in the background!

[bensonbenson]

I find I have terrible difficulty with archery, breakdancing and endogenous growth theory - what illness do I have, and when should my lazy teacher have diagnosed it?

[gypsy_cream]

har de har

[bensonbenson]

hoo de hoo dyslexia's a fucking racket

[gypsy_cream]

archery and breakdancing are hobbies not a vital part of learning..

[bensonbenson]

Reading is like throwing which is like bicycling which is like archery - it's a skill. You're good or bad it.

If you're not too hot at reading, like many kids from priveleged backgrounds in post-16 education in this country, you might qualify for a dicatphone, laptop, Ipod or helipad depending upon the gullibility of your LEA. The calamity of dyslexia is a pox upon all of us, and only consumer electronics can save our children.

Dyslexia is a real and punishing illness. So is the other kind of dyslexia, which is not being that good at maths. So is the other kind of dyslexia, which is being very unlucky in interviews to attend selective schools.

So is the other kind of dyslexia, which is a syndrome leading to the complete failure to grasp that children (POSSIBLY YOUR OWN OR EVEN YOU) have differing abilities in all areas and that making up latin sounding names to isolate the lowest performing groups and excuse them from your self-imposed hierachy is a waste of everyone's time and brain.

[don___quixote]

I think the reason "Dyslexia" is labeled differently is because we generally order the world in literary way therefore people deemed to have it are at a severe disadvantage in modern society... btw i supposedly have it i actually believe the i'm just shit those area's argument but i certainly didn't turn down my free imac and other electronic peripherals..

[bitch one]

bensonbenson, daring to question the received wisdom. always a good thing.

it's an emotive subject...people get very offended if you suggest that dyslexia is merely a latin name for not being good at reading. but if i am not mistaken there isn't actually any solid evidence that dyslexics are biologically special in some way (which the label suggests). correct me if i am wrong please someone?

answering my own question:

http://www.newscientist.com/channel/health/mg18825245.300#

hardly solid tho: "Connecting this to reading is a leap of faith," says Gruen.

[gypsy_cream]

argh

[sik80]

its seems to pay to be dyslexic if you're at uni - my house mate got a laptop, digital camera, printer etc and she readily admits shes "not that dyslexic" its just that she had a test years ago when she was having problems but seems to have more or less got over them now

[Yer_Maw]

yeah fair dues if your getting lots of free stuff. But then you have to live the rest of your life with a label.

As i said, my mate is proper dyslexic, never complains about it, and he is working for THE top kitchen in the country.

Its a touchy subject.

[mattgloss]

Originally posted by subscience
gonna get tested for it on monday. 50/50 in thinking that i might actually have it. crap at anything that involves numbers or writing. my mate colin is 30 and just found out he had it last week, artschool are givin him lots of stuff. worth a shot if i might win something.

It's nice that you keep the world informed Subseence. I got a minidisc player a G4 powermac and a personal organiser. I know people that struggle with it quite bad, but other than using a spell checker I never had a problem.

It terms of learning, it's not the lack of effort but the methedology of teaching that dyslexics struggle with. Most people who are dyslexic have parents with simular traits and they also have average or above IQ's, but instead of being equally good at different tests they are very good at some and very shit at others.

[Konx-om-Pax]

well thats me slept in and missed the fucking test. fucking werk. need to go in and apologise.

[thomas hooked]

there's no doubt that dyslexia is a real problem. however i went to art school- where most of the best students had free computers cos they were dyslexic. i doubt i would have got a computer if i studied higher maths and wasn't very good at drawing. i don't begrudge them the ipod/digi cam etc that much its just that it was probably having that sort of brain that made them artistic in the first place.

[don___quixote]

Originally posted by thomas hooked
it was probably having that sort of brain that made them artistic in the first place.

This is very true i reckon- as mentioned earlier what is classed as dyslexia is generally just a few low sections in the different catorgories of IQ (from what i can work out anyhow) so if your shit at reading and writing you and you have a really high spatial awareness you'll probably do art(again the point was made earlier about doing shit you enjoy)