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7875
23rd December 2002, 00:37
just wondering if any of you might be able to shed some light on this question in my head, "what are women attracted to in men?"

obviously, i still haven't a clue.

zombie ritual
23rd December 2002, 00:47
The question goes the other way round as well :-)

pille'ocheoni
23rd December 2002, 01:08
confidence

gunjack
23rd December 2002, 03:13
fucking pille man, you took the word right outta my mouth.


1. confidence
2. style (in everything you do)
3.character

aleks
23rd December 2002, 08:42
money & muscles

emef
23rd December 2002, 14:02
i think men are attracted to women with a really big pair of earrings
and women are attracted to men with a really huge sense of humour
ahem :)

jerm
23rd December 2002, 23:50
I agree with pille overall
but scientifically;
women who are looking for a lifetime partner, look for one who is sensitive, caring, nurturing,i.e. a friend
on the other hand, a women looking for immediate pleasure is looking for someone who is larger in size as well as more exciting and daring, i.e. A manly-man

So I guess for that info to help,try to think of what YOU are looking for and try to find women that are looking for that same thing, then everything in the relationship will, basically, fall into place.

Keep confidence in what you want. Women respect that a lot.

marcel
24th December 2002, 01:35
i love you, you love me
thats all

the why depends on you or her, or him.

only the feeling matters,
or? or??

invisibleplanet
24th December 2002, 06:01
good communication skills, thoughtful nature, intelligence, spiritual awareness, open-minded, trustworthy, similar taste in music, must speak/write at least one language other than english, must shave up to twice a day, and be fond of avocados and spinoza;)

applications in writing to: hehehehehe

aleks
24th December 2002, 06:44
who the hell is shaving twice a day?

guillaume
24th December 2002, 10:16
woman will look for man who have certain characteristics they lack...
introvert women will look for extravert men and the other way around...
excuse my french!

platinumray
24th December 2002, 14:33
girth!!

LEFTHANDLOU
24th December 2002, 18:31
Damn if I know!!

Women are crazy, everytime you think you know, you find out that you don't know shit.


But I think it helps to be hung like a horse :)

gunjack
25th December 2002, 03:21
yes. this does help.

invisibleplanet
26th December 2002, 13:10
hung like a horse? how about hung like a hare, or a bull?

lol

ehem. i don't think women look for size of [ehem] appendage *g that's just silly. it's obvious to be attracted to someone for their etheric intangibility isn't it? or am i just too airy fairy?

invisibleplanet
26th December 2002, 13:42
je ne sais quoi

LEFTHANDLOU
26th December 2002, 19:04
Sorry to say planet, but yes you are being very airy fairy. But its all good.

A Hare? Come on now thats just not going to do it.

I truly don't know, and honestly I don't think they (women) know eighter. I think you just like different qualities about people, and it has a lot to do with what you are looking for too, and sometimes its what you did'nt think you were looking for. Who knows you might end up with a guy with a full beard, that shaves every three years, and fucking hates avocados. Its a crazy world

Good thing there is beer

7875
27th December 2002, 00:15
so being extremely depressed is a turn off, yes? actually i know that answer, which is probably what is hurting my chances of getting ladies to even consider me for more than a second. for so long i really thought that it was good looks that was the key but i keep seeing so many ugly guys with devestatingly beautiful women and thought "whut the fuck?" it must be something deeper,eh.

i dont think there's anyway to find someone remotely close to myself, im too strange.

LEFTHANDLOU
27th December 2002, 02:06
Yo 7 its time for a vacation buddy, you are getting caught in the sauce my friend.
Now what you need to do is just relax and not be so hard on yourself. Brother you live in Oregon, and its fucking DEC, which means you are in a cold, dark, wet hole right now. But the sun will come out my friend, and soon you will have a honey, with a nice rack, just hanging your every word, among other things. But you got to make it happen, and its not going to happen if your all depressed and shit, people vibe that shit, so ditch the dark cloud routine, and look for the positive things in your life to carry you over. So for the time being go and treat yourself to something that you enjoy, and Scream FUCK IT.......Tomorrow is a new day.
Remember to keep it moving, and stay on beat....

cynthia
27th December 2002, 11:04
for me i just go for the looks and if they know their way around in bed they are ok, if not i´ll kick em out just saying that my husband is comming home in a minute or something like that...

men are just as big sluts as women...

but i love them anyway...

zongkong
27th December 2002, 11:41
cynthia - posewarning.. :D

what happened to julia anyway?

8-()

invisibleplanet
28th December 2002, 03:09
Originally posted by LEFTHANDLOU
Who knows you might end up with a guy with a full beard, that shaves every three years, and fucking hates avocados. Its a crazy world

Good thing there is beer

hehe

no - anything but that! - there are some attributes i couldn't compromise on - it's just not worth it!

LEFTHANDLOU
30th December 2002, 22:48
@ Planet>>>Good at least you know what you want, which is rare.

How about hairy avocados? remember they can be shaved!

7875
3rd January 2003, 01:10
lefthandlou- your very right, december here is a downer but the depression side is not an act. it is hard to kick and i know women can smell it from a mile away. i working on it, believe me. as far as finding a woman to hang on my every word, i don't have to cash flow to hold that sort of attention. gotta have that bling bling, son.

pille'ocheoni
3rd January 2003, 03:13
facial hair happens

invisibleplanet
3rd January 2003, 13:18
Originally posted by 7875
december here is a downer but the depression side is not an act. it is hard to kick and i know women can smell it from a mile away. i working on it, believe me. as far as finding a woman to hang on my every word, i don't have to cash flow to hold that sort of attention. gotta have that bling bling, son.

originally posted by pille'ocheoni
facial hair happens

A strange story about facial hair, repressed grief/depression, and coming of age wisdom can be read in Robert Bly's (http://www.findarticles.com/g1epc/bio/2419200114/p1/article.jhtml) 'Iron John' (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0679731199/ref=lib_dp_TFCV/103-0462100-7495015?v=glance&s=books&vi=reader#reader-link). Bly uses a german(ic) story (http://www.4literature.net/Jacob_and_Wilhelm_Grimm/Iron_John/) about the wild/hairy man as an analogy for the rites of passage from boyhood to manhood. He tries admirably to relate this tale to present day predicaments and trials.
I found the book a fascinating critique on the Grimm Story from which the thread of male rites of passage is drawn, although I wasn't a personal fan of Bly's own poetry, which he also uses to further illustrate his presentation.

I read this book 10 yrs ago when i was extremely curious about the male side of 'things. At the moment, I'm curious to know what you men think about such books. Are there any books like this about women that u know of? Perhaps you will find your answers there!

pille'ocheoni
3rd January 2003, 16:07
well i think its relative to each person, but stories like that can be a good device for translating ones curiosity.i dont know,im young and to your response about facial hair, i find a sense of security sometimes.not for looks but for comfortability.but yes i agree to a degree.when i get tired of the facial hair i cut it off but damn it really hurts sometimes.it feels like its ripping my face off.but from a womens perspective i dont think kissing a man with lots of facial hair can feel really good.but hey its a draw!:D/pille

grobelaar
5th January 2003, 23:34
Originally posted by pille'ocheoni
confidence

Indeed - because despite more cosmopolitan times, it seems the onus is still on the male to do the asking; so confidence is indeed a desirable attribute for men.

Which means females simply have to choose yes or no; which requires decisiveness...

...oh dear, it doesn't paint a very good picture does it ;)

phaedrus
6th January 2003, 01:19
Originally posted by invisibleplanet
I read this book 10 yrs ago when i was extremely curious about the male side of 'things. At the moment, I'm curious to know what you men think about such books.

Judging from the samples in the link, it looks like one of those "oprah winfrey" type books. Still, I do think it's an interesting issue. It reminds me of "Apocalypse Now" which basically addresses the same issue of being in touch with your primal self.

I certainly do feel that society has become way too obsessed with appearances. Trying to cover up the way you look, is in a way covering up the way you are. Your primal self is a source of incredible vital energy. If you can find a way to give it a place in your life/personality then it can really prove benificial. Easier said than done off course....but still, an interesting issue.

Joris

gunjack
6th January 2003, 16:12
Originally posted by LEFTHANDLOU
Damn if I know!!

Women are crazy...




http://www.darkintellect.com/spider/w3rd.jpg

zongkong
6th January 2003, 16:55
hihi

phaedrus: well said.

LEFTHANDLOU
7th January 2003, 00:15
@ 7875, I know its not an act bro, Depression sucks and it really takes a serious change of outlook to beat, that is if you don't want to go on a steady diet of Pills. But you got to go for it bro.

As far as the women thing, Its not all about money, it matters but its not the whole deal. Women want security, now Confidence and Wealth tie directly into it, If you don't have one you have to work on the other. Remember no one wants a bag of owes for a significant other, so bust the crazy fresh moves my brother. The world is yours!!

pille'ocheoni
7th January 2003, 01:41
yeah i agree fully.my experence has been one of not caring.it sounds weird but its works when you dont work it.thats for me anyways.i think there are just fundamentals you pick up as you grow up and see how the machine of talking to women works............just remeber to show interest.to act too cool is bad sometimes because you give off this message of im not avaliable.i dont know,you kind of have to be gutsy.and money is not where its at,unless your looking for a gold digger./p

Sheridan
7th January 2003, 03:55
I used to be pretty depressed and could not get girls.
now I am not depressed and am pretty confident yet I still cant get girls. so I don't know what to say. sometimes I think I am too nice and that relegates me to the 'brother' division.

pille'ocheoni
7th January 2003, 05:59
sometimes thats is a good angle to work from but you get stuck in a box real quick.i think its all about putting yourself in a situation that you can meet women.freinds of friends....stuff like that.i can honestly say that all the women i have met and been with have just been out of pure accident.nothing more.i mean i have had my one night stands and such,but every time i meet a women its just by happen stance.ive never been the guy that does the one liners but hey it works for some guys........i just be myself and be interested...because no matter what you do they always choose...they always choose.....they know if they want to be with you from the first time you meet.....and if look hard enough you can see if they have considered you as an option.

i used to see the signs but never responded,because i was afraid or felt i might get rejected,but when the day came that i was tired of being afraid,i just made my move and i got rejected,then tried again and it worked!..then i relized that you just have to put yourself out there and see what happens.and sometimes it works and sometimes it dosent.its just a hit and miss.i dont know,this is what i have found to help me in the art of meeting women.

aleks
7th January 2003, 10:29
maybe you´re just too picky...there are always girls who are interested in you.

aleks
7th January 2003, 10:32
Originally posted by pille'ocheoni
i used to see the signs but never responded,because i was afraid or felt i might get rejected,but when the day came that i was tired of being afraid,i just made my move and i got rejected,then tried again and it worked!..then i relized that you just have to put yourself out there and see what happens.and sometimes it works and sometimes it dosent.its just a hit and miss.i dont know,this is what i have found to help me in the art of meeting women.

word.

rolf eden (the last playboy in germany) said that it´s better to ask 100 women and get rejected 99times and go home with one than not to ask and go home alone.

wheezer
7th January 2003, 11:20
hehe, I saw rolf eden on tv while I was visiting germany during new years... that guy cracks me up

aleks
7th January 2003, 12:01
i saw rolf eden once in a theatre and it´s no joke that he has got all these young and beautiful chicks with him. of course they only want his money, but i doubt they´ll get it but he gets what he wants...with tons of viagra.

phaedrus
7th January 2003, 13:13
Originally posted by aleks


word.

rolf eden (the last playboy in germany) said that it´s better to ask 100 women and get rejected 99times and go home with one than not to ask and go home alone.

I dunno about that. There's also such a thing as pride. It's not a bad thing to keep trying, but personally I have my limits.

bitch one
7th January 2003, 17:33
i just wait until one picks me up. takes on average about 2 years, and then she's usually mental.

pille'ocheoni
7th January 2003, 17:35
for the longest time now bitch-one i thought you were a woman.or wait maybe.....

bitch one
7th January 2003, 17:49
i am a lesbian dwarf.

aleks
7th January 2003, 19:26
Originally posted by phaedrus
I dunno about that. There's also such a thing as pride. It's not a bad thing to keep trying, but personally I have my limits.

of course and who the hell is trying to pick up 100 chicks in one night. if you don´t want to waste time always go for the ugly ones:)

pille'ocheoni
7th January 2003, 20:41
http://www.intermed.it/shuttle/box1004/dwarfs.jpg

zongkong
7th January 2003, 22:06
"i just wait until one picks me up. takes on average about 2 years, and then she's usually mental."

bitch 1 - been there, done that.. 8-()

but seriously folks, you could die tomorrow, so if you're interested in someone then just do something.

Sheridan
7th January 2003, 22:13
some guys just seem to have all the luck, or charimsa.
one of my old flat mates was this tall skinny DIRTY hippie and he could get almost any girl. it was ridiculus (spell check).
one night we had some friends over and this one girl I went to high school with was there. it was the first time either of them had met. anyway after hanging out for a while the girls friend wanted to go. when my roomate heard that he turned to the one he was interested in and said. 'what do you mean you have to go, I thought you were staying with me tonight?' sure enough she did, and sure enough they did.

zongkong
7th January 2003, 22:26
it's not luck,
it's charisma.

but anyone can be anything they want, just remember that you're free to everything, and also remember that you definetely could die tomorrow..

somehow, the words 'death is certain' is something to feel good about, rather than be afraid of; it makes you realize how little things matter, and that therefore you should do things that matter.

7875
7th January 2003, 23:20
yer words have been encouraging and im glad you took the time to elaborate on such a subject. often times i just get these awful lows and clumsily spill my guts on this board. its all pointless in the end, isnt it?
trying too hard will get you nowhere and i know this.
it is this way with EVERYTHING in my life.
the trick is to find a way to smash the ego into believing that "you dont need it, you're fine without it."

there is no way to get around the adage of "you find things when you least expect it."

invisibleplanet
7th January 2003, 23:25
Originally posted by bitch one
i am a lesbian dwarf.

women want men/women who make mindblowing muff-dives :!
(amongst other things)

i do see what u mean, pille', about it being a draw *g

pille'ocheoni
7th January 2003, 23:40
but at that point it would be like facial hair!.....and you hate facial hair.....heheheheh.lol........ but yeah i see what you mean.diving is another practice altogether......they should have schools on that subject.and vise-versa with the male thang.....

marcel
7th January 2003, 23:48
Originally posted by zongkong

but seriously folks, you could die tomorrow, so if you're interested in someone then just do something.

somehow, the words 'death is certain' is something to feel good about, rather than be afraid of; it makes you realize how little things matter, and that therefore you should do things that matter.



youre so right zongkong. everyone knows that for sure, but you have to be remembered about thes things sometimes.

tomorrow when i go to university ill have to do something.
thanks

invisibleplanet
7th January 2003, 23:54
Originally posted by 7875
yer words have been encouraging and im glad you took the time to elaborate on such a subject. often times i just get these awful lows and clumsily spill my guts on this board. its all pointless in the end, isnt it?
trying too hard will get you nowhere and i know this.
it is this way with EVERYTHING in my life.
the trick is to find a way to smash the ego into believing that "you dont need it, you're fine without it."

there is no way to get around the adage of "you find things when you least expect it."

a friend passed on that adage to me in different words:
"Serendipity is the key...."

i think your openess is valuable.

i do think it's important to love yourself (self-love) before you can give and receive love/compassion to any degree. perhaps the your ego plays a necessary factor in the expression of love and attraction . Perhaps it is the ego which gives us the power to hunt for a mate, or make witty conversation with an attractive stranger.
I wonder if it might be a waste of time to crush one's ego, as that time/energy could be used to develop one's super-ego/higher self, and then one's ego will seem smaller by comparison.

Personally, i find the brain is the most attractive part of a person. Again, it's not something which is immediately obvious.

bitch one
8th January 2003, 10:48
Originally posted by invisibleplanet


Personally, i find the brain is the most attractive part of a person.

mmm, yes, i also love to rub up against all that grey squidgy stuff

LEFTHANDLOU
8th January 2003, 23:52
Fuck all the bullshit my friend, Listening, opening doors, buying gifts, dinner, flowers, more listening, and on and on

Just ask Santa for one of these babes www.realdoll.com


:) HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHA They are soft yet lovely ;)

pille'ocheoni
9th January 2003, 00:15
holy shit............these things are expensive...like 6000.00 usd........impressive though.lo.l

LEFTHANDLOU
9th January 2003, 01:07
Want to Play ........You got to pay :)

Its a pretty good investment, who needs a car anyway when you have a real doll

pille'ocheoni
9th January 2003, 01:53
if someone gave me one,id keep it!.........did you read the imfo page.it says all this stuff about repair kits and shit....."will give a discount on 15 silicon tubes if you buy two!!".....they might break easy.....but hey your right you gotta pay to play.......id rather pay for a waldorf wave and save a couple thousand dollars....but once again, if someone gave one to me hint *hint* then i couldnt refuse.:)and jesus im about to hit a thousand!

notnowbernard
9th January 2003, 04:59
Hi everyone!

Women are attracted to men that are like their fathers... it really is as simple as that. Underneath EVERY woman secretlty fancies their dad (for many woman they won't even know as it will be subconscious). So try and get some photos of her old man and they you can fashion yourself on him to win her affections.

It's simliar with men, they mentally fix a picture of their mums when they are about 3 years old that forms the basic template for their preferred physical type (I don't know what age this happens in women).

notnowbernard
9th January 2003, 05:00
the man is 3, not the mother.

grobelaar
9th January 2003, 13:59
Originally posted by notnowbernard
Hi everyone!

Women are attracted to men that are like their fathers... it really is as simple as that. Underneath EVERY woman secretlty fancies their dad (for many woman they won't even know as it will be subconscious). So try and get some photos of her old man and they you can fashion yourself on him to win her affections.

It's simliar with men, they mentally fix a picture of their mums when they are about 3 years old that forms the basic template for their preferred physical type (I don't know what age this happens in women).

Damn, someone beat me to it, I was going to say that, although your reasoning is a little Freudian (the 'fancying' your father/mother bit), I don't like Freud - I think he jumped to a lot of BIG conclusions, which as far as I'm concerned can only be used to posthumously psychoanalyse the man himsef...

A more anthropological reasoning - While inbreeding is obviously bad dues to the double-recessive genes; research has shown that the strongest off-spring are produced when two people/beings/animals who are genetically similar or very close mate.

Therefore if appearance is a good guage of genetic make-up (it is, to a certain degree) then being attracted to your own father/mother's appearance makes good sense from the point of view of the survival of the species. Throw this together with the fact that humans hang around in groups/tribes/communities/circles of friends and associates of about 100 and you have an inherent automatic system for creating strong off-spring.

Such a shame Freud went off on some sordid little fantasy of his own making...

bitch one
9th January 2003, 14:29
as resident geneticist i feel i must point out that you are wrong. 'strong' (can of worms there, what does strong mean?) offspring can be produced when very genetically different individuals mate, a phenomenon which even has a name although my addled memory has forgotten it. the reason for this is contained in your message...inbred individuals have lots of double recessives. cross 2 different inbreds together...it means all the recessives get masked. so you get super-offspring. you can see this phenomenon in action in humans when you visit a country like holland where there is a lot of mixing of genes from different continents going on - you constantly see all these thoroughbred types walking about, 6 foot afro-asio-europeans with perfect skin who make extremely good footballers etc.

personally i don't subscribe to the deterministic view of genetics when it comes to people. i think we choose mates who look like us simply because we consciously weigh up whether someone is 'in our league' or not. if you are fat and ugly then you are probably not going to be able to pull a supermodel. unless you are rich/famous/superconfident/very funny - all things which the supermodel in question notices consciously. i think evolutionary psychologists like to conveniently forget that humans make conscious decisions.

zongkong
9th January 2003, 15:16
b 1 - perhaps the word you are searching for is 'hybrid'?

bitch one
9th January 2003, 17:04
blimey, nerd alert..

Sheridan
9th January 2003, 17:13
Originally posted by notnowbernard
Hi everyone!

Women are attracted to men that are like their fathers... it really is as simple as that. Underneath EVERY woman secretlty fancies their dad (for many woman they won't even know as it will be subconscious). So try and get some photos of her old man and they you can fashion yourself on him to win her affections.

It's simliar with men, they mentally fix a picture of their mums when they are about 3 years old that forms the basic template for their preferred physical type (I don't know what age this happens in women).

although I can see how that can happen, to say that everyone feels that way is the biggest load of bullshit. what happens if a person had an abusive father/mother? do they still want to marry someone like that? what if they straight up don't like their mother/father? their personalities clash so much that they can't even be in the same room with one another. those statements are a bit too broad to be acurate for everyone.

Medea
9th January 2003, 17:21
Attraction for me feels almost psychic, rather than 'Oh my God he's gorgeous' which isn't always the case. It's more a feeling of 'I feel like he has something to share with me' and likewise I have something to return. Usually there's a feeling of recognition in the eye contact excahnged . I'm attracted to someone I feel like I can learn alot from, someone creative with an intense inner life. So there's a purely subjective opinion for you!

grobelaar
9th January 2003, 18:48
Originally posted by bitch one
as resident geneticist i feel i must point out that you are wrong. 'strong' (can of worms there, what does strong mean?) ..... i think evolutionary psychologists like to conveniently forget that humans make conscious decisions.

Although I do agree with your hybrid theory, I think you have missed my point, or perhaps I muddied it by starting with the inbreeding thing. My main point doesn't refer to inbreeding, as I said this is bad for very elementary genetic reasons...

I said that when two genetically 'different' but 'similar' individuals mate research has show that their offspring can be stronger/better/have better chance of surviving than when individuals whose genetic make up is very different mate. (maybe this is just a one-off study, but I definitely remember reading about it)

Also genetics should not be confused with theories of evolution, Genetics works with or without evolution - it just conveniently helps to support theories of evolution. (I actually quite like the Creationist theories - they do have a point)

And seeing as we are talking about inherent pre-programmed behaviour something that no one actually knows anything concrete about, much like human learning - I'll reserve my right to spout my theories ad nauseum...

Can anyone see the can opener, I right fancy a can of worms.

@Bitch One if this all wildly a bag of shite then please do point me in the direction of some stuff to show me otherwise - I'm just an armchair theorist - who reads too much - always willing to be shown the error of my ways, for all I know you'll be Professor of Genetics at some University... :-)

bitch one
10th January 2003, 10:19
Originally posted by grobelaar

Also genetics should not be confused with theories of evolution, Genetics works with or without evolution - it just conveniently helps to support theories of evolution. (I actually quite like the Creationist theories - they do have a point)

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dunno wot you're on about mate. i am not a professor but i worked for 3 years as the assistant of the uk's top evolutionary theorist, so i do know a wee bit about it. not that that's any argument. but it certainly doesn't make any kind of sense to say genetics works without evolution. that's crazy talk.

invisibleplanet
10th January 2003, 10:29
i don't agree that people are looking for someone like their opposite-sex parent.

And besides, if this were so, then I am doomed to be alone forever, as my father is so intelligent, handsome, and charming, that to use him as a measurement for my m8, would mean that my m8 would probably leave me for having unrealistic expectations of them!

invisibleplanet
10th January 2003, 10:32
Originally posted by bitch one

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dunno wot you're on about mate. i am not a professor but i worked for 3 years as the assistant of the uk's top evolutionary theorist, so i do know a wee bit about it. not that that's any argument. but it certainly doesn't make any kind of sense to say genetics works without evolution. that's crazy talk.

if one crosses a long sighted person, with a short sighted person, what is the chance their child will be born with perfect sight? 1 in 4?

bitch one
10th January 2003, 10:32
you haven't met me yet...

bitch one
10th January 2003, 10:35
Originally posted by invisibleplanet


if one crosses a long sighted person, with a short sighted person, what is the chance their child will be born with perfect sight? 1 in 4?

i know nothing about genetics of eyesight. but 1 in 4 ratios like that occur only when a trait is controlled by a single gene. i imagine there are probably many genes involved in determining eyesight, as well as environmental factors like how much time you spend on messageboards.

invisibleplanet
10th January 2003, 10:37
Originally posted by bitch one
you haven't met me yet...

...true.....

invisibleplanet
10th January 2003, 10:40
Originally posted by bitch one


i know nothing about genetics of eyesight. but 1 in 4 ratios like that occur only when a trait is controlled by a single gene. i imagine there are probably many genes involved in determining eyesight, as well as environmental factors like how much time you spend on messageboards.

...of course, my ancestors spent far too much time using computers...so....here i am, squinting away at the screen, with half the code for shortsightedness lying in wait to spring out upon some poor unsuspecting offspring... perhaps this is why men don't make passes at girls who wear glasses!

Basic
10th January 2003, 10:42
Originally posted by invisibleplanet
i don't agree that people are looking for someone like their opposite-sex parent.

And besides, if this were so, then I am doomed to be alone forever, as my father is so intelligent, handsome, and charming, that to use him as a measurement for my m8, would mean that my m8 would probably leave me for having unrealistic expectations of them!

This is something that has been proven in a large majority of the measured population. I don't think it is a conscious thing that is mentioned above, but more sub-concious and relating to unspoken exchanges (body language, mannerisms, familiarity etc) as this is something that makes you feel immediately comfortable. Reverting back to Freud, many sexual preferences are formed in the mind during childhood and lay dormant until a later age and this coupled with Oepidus / Electra complex forms the strongest basis of partner selection in later life. You must remember that the vasy majority of inter-personal exchange is non-verbal (85-90%) and that is when you meet someone special that it can have a somewhat spirtual and unexplainable effect. This is to do with all of the above coupled with the addition of how the two people's brains emit frequencies, the more they are in unison in transmission the more suited they are.

Shoot me down if you wish, but this is based on fact!

bitch one
10th January 2003, 10:46
i don't believe in facts

Basic
10th January 2003, 10:48
haha, how can I argue with that?

invisibleplanet
10th January 2003, 11:11
one cannot believe in facts - i can't argue with that either!
surely one can only be certain of facts.

bitch one
10th January 2003, 11:21
hey look - we've accidentally come round to the title of this thread! freaky. i don't believe you can be certain of facts either.

invisibleplanet
10th January 2003, 11:33
how can anyone be certain that the recorded facts, which 'ologists marry with these subjectively formed hypotheses specifically to form an opinion about human nature, have any connection to each other at all, outside of the hypothesis which links them together.

Basic
10th January 2003, 11:41
You can run away from reality if you want.....

bitch one
10th January 2003, 11:44
reality is a myth!

(fact : i am a twat)

Basic
10th January 2003, 11:47
Let's not take the philosophical route :)

bitch one
10th January 2003, 11:53
philosophy is important to twats like me.

@ invisibleplanet - you just summed up the reason why i gave up the science career.

Basic
10th January 2003, 11:56
Philsophy is a means to justify your own opinions as you don't require any evidence - just an ability to make up riddles :)

invisibleplanet
10th January 2003, 12:01
ok - how about we take a linguistic route...

how about we all ban the verb 'to be' for the next few posts, and replace it with another verb....then we can stop the myth that one thing IS another thing. :D

i think it's called 'e-prime'

Basic
10th January 2003, 12:03
OK

linguistics IS crap
lol

bitch one
10th January 2003, 12:12
i wank therefore i have become a wanker

Basic
10th January 2003, 12:15
profound!!:!

invisibleplanet
10th January 2003, 12:34
hehe
the only thing we can be certain that we all have in common will be that 'wank' factor....

Basic
10th January 2003, 12:49
Practising procreation or simulating copulation are perhaps more flattering terms?

Basic
10th January 2003, 12:49
In this is so, what attracts a person to their hand lol

invisibleplanet
10th January 2003, 13:13
contant availability and willingness to please?

lol

Basic
10th January 2003, 13:18
No arguments!
Low maintenance!

amble
10th January 2003, 13:37
No Deseases. No Pregnancy. Cheap Hairwax.

Basic
10th January 2003, 13:47
Haha, there is always the danger of a male coming to a sticky end!!

bitch one
10th January 2003, 14:54
from the dizzy heights to the murky depths in a few quick statements

Basic
10th January 2003, 15:18
:) It tends to go that way with me. Damn my adolescent humour!!

Sheridan
10th January 2003, 17:01
Originally posted by invisibleplanet

perhaps this is why men don't make passes at girls who wear glasses!

no true. I love a woman who has a pair of stylish glasses. very sexy.