your favorite year of music?

[piscaries]

it's been a while since a good wave of music has come around. it seems like it all goes in cycles. my friends and i have a theory that popular music only gets good about every 9 years. but i'd have to say that the last overall good year (imho) for music was 1997 (in the u.s.). It was just before Daft Punk fucked house up.. and house still had a deep soul. techno was still freakin' hard and very danceable.. not the typical modern "schranz" or beat tracks as of late. trance hadn't gotten too out of the psychadelic/goa realm, and even rock still had a good go. and i don't think that the term "idm" had even been coined yet. i think (for me) music was still innocent and soulful then. my how things have changed. what do you guys think?

[JE:5]

'95 has to be my favourite year without a doubt.

[kamaro]

next year is always the best...

[piscaries]

i guess age also has something to do with it all. i'm only 21, so 95' wass just a tiny too early for me to really know what was going on. but looking back, that was a good. i'll compromise and say 95 through 97 was damn good.

[_JM]

Every year is a great year. You just have to know where to look.

[pille'ocheoni]

i think its going to get more intelegent as time passes.but my first exposer to party had to have been the best time cause it was fresh and new.summer of 75.

[anarchosyn]

1995!

I didn't read more then the first few sentences of this thread, but 1995 was the last year that really blew my mind. Vogel was at his prime, as was neil, those booth and brown boys, and idm was just becoming a catch phrase for decent music (and not the sense of overly repetitive mental masturbation that it is today).

Yeah, I was a sheltered black kid living in dayton ohio at the time, but from my perspective, the world was perfect (musically, anyhow).

Humm.. funny, I can't remember any specific album names, but the world was full of blue birds, hot tubs filled with Polynesian womyn. crates filled with cutting edge music, and max/msp wasn't done to death.

wow.. to dream of technicolored escapades, raves in back woods bungalows, small crustaceans named sam, and effervescent discords of logic and philosophy (syllogistic philosophy).

humm..i'm drunk..

[bushman]

what does idm mean

[anarchosyn]

"Idiomaticly Dynamic Masturbation"

Uhh.. wait.. maybe it’s

"Idolity doesn’t Modulate"

Humm.. that still doesn’t seem right…

Maybe ..

"Intelligent Dance Music"..

Nah.. to banal..

maybe… wait… maybe..

"Imminent Dysfunction’s of Malevolence"


yeah,, that sounds right (or without the sad stab at humor, #3).

[aleks]

IDM= innit dumb, mate?:D

[aleks]

that IDM thing is just as stupid if not even more like that schranz word...

best year in music, must be every year...

[actionjetzon]

every music-year has its goods!

But of course the earlier years were better...;)

[Weishaupt]

1928!

stockhausen was born
:-)

"Seit Beginn meiner Komposition elektronischer Musik suchte ich immer wieder nach technischen Möglichkeiten, phasensynchrone Spektren mit kontrollierten Phasenverschiebungen der einzelnen Teiltöne zu erzeugen. Man lernt normalerweise in der Akustik, daß die Phasenlage der Teiltöne für das Gehör keine Rolle spielt. Das stimmt aber nur sehr begrenzt. Einige im Kölner Studio von mir auf abenteuerlich experimentelle Art erreichte Resultate der Phasendrehung waren sehr ermutigend, in dieser Richtung weiterzuforschen (zum Beispiel ein Spektrum auf zwei nebeneinanderstehenden Magnetophonen gleichzeitig aufzunehmen und dabei auf einem der Magnetophone mit einem Finger das Band langsam zwischen Aufnahme- und Wiedergabekopf anzudrücken und die Wiedergabe beider Magnetophone auf einem dritten Magnetophon aufzunehmen). Man kann dabei wunderbare Spektral-"Drehungen" erreichen, bei denen ein Spektrum alle Phasenverschiebungen der Teiltöne mit sich selbst durchmacht. "


sorry just in german
:-/

[MUX]

IDM is a word created by Warp so that they can call there cd's new music and double the price...

[invisibleplanet]

Originally posted by MUX
IDM is a word created by Warp so that they can call there cd's new music and double the price...

lol

personally, i liked 1970...i remember swinging on the swings in the park, and singing to my self 'all right now' by free as a swing-song, and wondering at the marvel of my new sister, 'squidge', ...and then again, in 1972, it was re-released and another new sister was born, 'bear', and there i was on the swing, singing 'all right now' with my 2 yr old sister there on the swing, singing along...
"baby it's all right now..." and having a flashback to when squidge was born...songs are great for time-travel :)

[MUX]

I/P u remeber 1970? wow your ancient!

[Basic]

flattery will get you no where lol lol lol

[MUX]

hey man.. leave me alone.. or ill send down Dave Clarke to kick your ass hehehe

[Basic]

Aaarrgh, the mere swish of those leather troos keeps me in check:)

[ischo]

i guess every year has it's ups and downs....

concidering pop-music, i think it's getting worse and worse...
artists trying to keep up with musical change by chossing the most popular producers (madonna, depeche mode) or just re-working old HITS with a couple of new refrains (RnB, boy/girl groups).
longlivety (spelling sux) is a word of the past, it's the fast-pace-life
that makes the buck, right? today top, tomorrow flop.......

okay, i didn't wanna piss anybody liking madonna or DM off, but it's just what i recently discussed with a mate.

[emef]

79 and 80 were fantastic years for me, 81 was bad...gary numan retired from touring.
83 was good...gary numan unretired and even played in blackpool that year.
88 and 89 were great,also 95 was really good and 99 was cracking.
2002 has been the best and the worst for different reasons.

[Mercedez Ben]

1990 and 1995

[invisibleplanet]

Originally posted by MUX
I/P u remeber 1970? wow your ancient!

nah - i just have a good memory :)

[tsr_tomas]

was it 94 or 95 for the relese of Neil landstrumm - brown by august ?

that year sure is my favorite year !
brown by august still kicks ass.

[Basic]

94 - Drexciya and Electroids are rampant!!!

[Basic]

Hold on, that was 95 the electroids album came out.

We have a tie then!!!

[V Knid esq]

Originally posted by ischo
i guess every year has it's ups and downs....

concidering pop-music, i think it's getting worse and worse...
artists trying to keep up with musical change by chossing the most popular producers (madonna, depeche mode) or just re-working old HITS with a couple of new refrains (RnB, boy/girl groups).
longlivety (spelling sux) is a word of the past, it's the fast-pace-life
that makes the buck, right? today top, tomorrow flop.......

okay, i didn't wanna piss anybody liking madonna or DM off, but it's just what i recently discussed with a mate.

I disagree

- Depeche Mode always worked with hip producers: Daniel Miller, Flood, Francois Kervorkian. Madonna too.

- Pop is HOT now, in the US anyway: Neptunes, Dre, Timbaland are incredible production and melody-wise, there's some top stoopid-arsed punk - sum 47 etc - not to mention the Strokes and Stripes.


I vote 2002!

[marcel]

Originally posted by tsr_tomas

brown by august still kicks ass.

wasn't it meant to be repressed? what happened?
i wnat that!

for the topic. i dont have a fav year. i never had really that good years to say this is my fav, this blast me away.after all its getting more and more worse. maybe music is coming to its end. maybe mankind is coming to its end. maybe i'm only drunken

[7875]

95 bay-baay!
i continually look on some of my records and find that the best shit came from ninety-five.

[ischo]

Originally posted by V Knid esq

- Pop is HOT now, in the US anyway: Neptunes, Dre, Timbaland are incredible production and melody-wise, there's some top stoopid-arsed punk - sum 47 etc - not to mention the Strokes and Stripes.


c'mon Knid, Dre was hot 5-7 years ago, now he's just trying to reinvent himself thru others -> truth hurts
personally i can't stand his phoney 5-tone preset sound melodies anymore...that was all okay in '95, but hey, it's 2002/2003

whatever.....

[Basic]

Originally posted by ischo


c'mon Knid, Dre was hot 5-7 years ago, now he's just trying to reinvent himself thru others -> truth hurts
personally i can't stand his phoney 5-tone preset sound melodies anymore...that was all okay in '95, but hey, it's 2002/2003

whatever.....

The irony in your statement is that he has constantly re-invented himself. However, I would have to contest that he was hot in 95 as he was the same as any other production line Gangsta rapper which was a pity really....

Here is how I see it, not quite Madonna stakes in reinvention but how credibility drops in search of the mighty dollar!!!


85 - The World Class Wrecking Cru provide us with 'Surgery' and other electro cuts. Quality!!
86 - Dre joins NWA!!
92 - Hooks up with Suge Knight on Death Row
93 - The Chronic signifies $$$$$$, and the rocky road to mainstream.
95 - Chart Fodder!

I don't even want to get into Eminem (sp?) and Lil Bow Wow, Jeee-eez!!

[JE:5]

Originally posted by tsr_tomas
was it 94 or 95 for the relese of Neil landstrumm - brown by august ?

that year sure is my favorite year !
brown by august still kicks ass.

It was 95, this remains one of my favourite albums ever.

[tsr_tomas]

@je:5: yeah, then 95 is the shit !

[anarchosyn]

Speaking of "brown by..." (which, was primarily what I was referencing in my previous post with "and neil was at the top of his game") can anybody hook me with an MP3 copy of that CD only ultra slick electro track ? I'd buy it, if I could, but haven't been able to hear that track in AGES...

hit me up, if you can--> milque_dx@yahoo.com

I've SOOOO wanted to hear that recently..

[Django]

well, realtime is really cool...

and 1967 also rocks ;)

[invisibleplanet]

Originally posted by Django
well, realtime is really cool...

and 1967 also rocks ;)

jo guat!

[wheezer]

Originally posted by anarchosyn
Speaking of "brown by..." (which, was primarily what I was referencing in my previous post with "and neil was at the top of his game") can anybody hook me with an MP3 copy of that CD only ultra slick electro track ? I'd buy it, if I could, but haven't been able to hear that track in AGES...

hit me up, if you can--> milque_dx@yahoo.com

I've SOOOO wanted to hear that recently..

actually, while we're on the topic - I remember somebody asking on the old board once for that track and if it was available on vinyl, and the answer was so mysteriously phrased it sounded like there might've been some limited pressing...?

[tsr_fredrik]

1995!... that´s when the brighton/edinburgh/schrouse style was like this crazy, wicked chicago style. those records are my favourites.

[actionjetzon]

what the fuck is schrouse?:!

[Weishaupt]

Its a word from Kaoz and his uplifting-crew.

[Weishaupt]

sounds like a new shampoo..........

The trailer:

*dideldudel
"buy this new schrouse-shampoo............its good, its smeely, its the best for your wonderfull hair..............schrouse.... .........now in your local shop"...............

[anarchosyn]

Originally posted by wheezer


actually, while we're on the topic - I remember somebody asking on the old board once for that track and if it was available on vinyl, and the answer was so mysteriously phrased it sounded like there might've been some limited pressing...?

Actually, that was me that asked on the old board, I simply forgot that I had done so.

btw- all vinyl is limited pressing, especially dance floor oriented tech..
Damn shame to, there have been a lot of tracks released that I passed on due to cash which I really shouldn't have. Hell, I still need to even FIND dungeon master.

[wheezer]

@anarcho

well, in theory every commodity is limited, but there's limited (as in finite copies) and then there's limited (as in get up early and wait for the record store clerk to open the door), as we all know. for example, a record that is "limited to 5000 copies" I just don't consider particularly limited, while one that is limited to 250 copies with handwritten catalogue number is fairly limited...

[ischo]

slightly off-topic,

but a frankfurt-based hiphop act called *nordmassiv* brought out an lp where they hand-painted every single cover individually.

now that's what i call limited special edition n shit.....

[haynusbrody]

i say 1972 was coo.
even though i wasnt born yet
i grew listening to music of that era
like led zeppelin
pink floyd
grateful dead[only there live shit]
funk music was kicken ass then too all the way into
the 80s[like fatback,sly stone]
i never even knew of techno until me and like 5 of my
friends wnet to this wierd ass party that freaked me permantly

but these days i dont know whats up
with music in general. there is no such thing as real
rock&roll anymore to my knoledge. its almost like music itself
is starting to degenerate. freaky ass electronic funk
and hard machine techno and stuff like that is the only thing
that seems to float my boat at the moment.
or maybe i dont know anything.

[LEFTHANDLOU]

95 was really good, 2002 sucks man Hip Hop is in a state of ruin

[piscaries]

considering that rap is considered hip-hop nowadays, i agree with you lefty

[actionjetzon]

You both are right, good hip hop is almost extinct

[guillaume]

Originally posted by piscaries
It was just before Daft Punk fucked house up..
I'm glad they did... they blew my mind....
best year for music : 1996-1997 just because of them!!!

[M H]

Originally posted by actionjetzon
You both are right, good hip hop is almost extinct



Except Roots Manuva....

94 to 97 was the golden age for me...

[invisibleplanet]

Originally posted by actionjetzon
what the fuck is schrouse?:!

the shranz equivalent of house?

wtf is schranz?

[Weishaupt]

schranz is fucking looptechno......played by chris liebing
harharhar


:-)

[piscaries]

schrouse, schranz... is this kind of word alteration the german equivalent of the "izzle" in the rap world??

[owain_k]

Back to the topic :-p

Every year that i can remember has good n bad innit....

Sayin that ,95 was ace ......but.....2002 hasn't been all that bad either.......depends on wat u like and where u r lookin.

[invisibleplanet]

Originally posted by piscaries
schrouse, schranz... is this kind of word alteration the german equivalent of the "izzle" in the rap world??

it's looks schtupid and vaguely inschulting to me - i schan't be using schuch a schilly phrase :!

oops - schtrayed off topic - schorry!

[jukka]

@ip:
it is better if you don't use it :)

[cmarakasu]

for awhile there,
things seemed to
happen in
two year increments:

1987-read about
voivod in a science
fiction magazine.
bought all of their
records. saw the
swans upon their
recommendation in
yet another science
fiction magazine.
changed my life, it did...

1989-discovered grindcore.
also, einsturzende neubauten.
life changing type of things,
like i said just earlier and stuff.

1991-went to my first tkno
party. leo anibaldi played,
from what i'm told. in any case,
my life was changed.

1993-OMG JUNGALIST.
my life? on account of this
music, it changed.

1995-was living in oregon
most of that year. people
in oregon have badass
taste in music. must be
something in the water.
i digress...
my thoroughly indiefied
then-bf hipped me
to stuff like magnetic fields,
la monte young,albert
ayler,etc.
life changes lots.
that year, more so than
usual.

1997-there are some good
record stores in bangkok.
because of them, i learned
of subhead,vogel,and the rest
of you insane raving maniacs.
also heard speedy j's
public energy #1 that year.

while i've heard a lot of
life affirming music
since then, little i've
listened to has made me
want to change the way i
tie my shoes, let alone my
life.

and that's sad,
kind of.

[Loz]

Hip Hop isn't extinct. I think it's just the mainstream stuff that's going down. They'll still be stuff like Roots Manuva and Public Enemy (no matter what you say, their new release still contain some killer tracks) which will keep the torch burning.

I mentioned an artist called Braintax a few months ago (I heard him first on Mr Scruff's album Trouser Jazz) who is white and from Leeds in the UK. His stuff is totally fantastic. Intelligent, great groove, great beats. People will continue to come from nowhere and take hip hop into exciting new directions.