what sound is going down in your town? [Archive]

Mercedez Ben

19th November 2002, 19:59

Right now, one of my primary interests in dance music is trying to understand the movements that are growing and dying in different cities. What styles of music have come together to define a sound and stuff like that. This is an ever-changing phenomenon. It often gets bogged down but creative energy pushes it forward and forward.

So what sounds define your town or the town in which you choose to get down? Or, more specifically, what sounds define the scene(s) you pay the most attention to.

Chicago has a huge dance music scene with, of course, House as it's staple. The techno scene right now is divided into two areas promoters seem to stress: Hard techno on the one hand and the more dubbed out variety on the other. The hard stuff is unfortunately of the boring samey sort in most instances. One exception was a Rob Hood live pa/dj set last Friday, but this sort of event is rare. The dubbed out shit is, in my opinion, a much more progressive form of techno dance music as it includes the hard stuff as well more nuanced shit. Anywhere from Klang to Kompakt to Brighton techno and back here to Detroit, Chicago, Philly, NY and the rest.

There's not as much interest as some of us would like at this point but there are some new nights with interesting contributing musicians and we're hoping it grows.

Thanks for any input.

Sheridan

19th November 2002, 21:25

where I am at right now it is all crap. these people here wouldn't know good music if it shat on their heads and called them sally. all I hear down in florida is crappy breaks, shitty 'electro' (if you can call it that) and the most god awful trance and hard house. I went to one of the record stores here a while ago and they had three copies of michael forshaws chan-n-mikes #4. and I am sure they will be there forever because people just don't know..

aleks

19th November 2002, 21:45

neotrance, funkydiscohouse and the usual billboard stuff. great, isn´t it? it´s just me mates and i and maybe 20 other people into good music...and i only know 2 other guys who are really into the no-future sound. correct me if i am wrong jukka?!

piscaries

19th November 2002, 21:53

@mercedez ben
i didn't realize you were from chicago too. i noticed techno seemed kind of "gone" for a while in chicago, but it does seem to be having a resurgance. however i haven't ever really been too much a part of the scene so i don't know if my observation is accurate. i'm more focused onto the experimental/idm stuff going on in the city. my conclusion: too many laptops. we have a small collective here that is trying to be mainly synth-based. i'm the most digital of all of them cause i use a laptop (just to sequence!) and a nord modular as my main sound source. they're trying to keep the analog vibe going and doing live shows with lots of keyboards. so i think those are the main two scenes going on in chicago right now: techno and (i hate using this term) idm.

and just wandering a little OT: what part of the city are you from? i'm up in logan square.

Mercedez Ben

19th November 2002, 22:09

piscaries,
very cool to talk to another chicagoan here. i'm in rogers park near pratt and clark. it sounds nice what you and your crew are up to. do you have any regular shows? do you have anything coming up? yes, the techno scene was virtually non-existant for a while. i'm hoping it continues to grow. i think the key is getting people excited about it, just pumping out the energy and good sounds to make that happen. a few of my friends and i have a new bi-weekly at smartbar on thursdays. maybe we could help eachother with event support and what-not. there certainly isn't a whole lot of competition.

best :)

piscaries

19th November 2002, 22:27

we don't have too much going on. we're all starting to finalize our studios and do our own things. we've been a collective for about 7 years now (we all went to high school together) and we all just kind of pooled all of our gear for a while. it sounds like you guys are much further along than we are. most of us spin though, and one of my friends and i spin techno. maybe we could get you a tape/cd or something. i've done some stuff with a multimedia group called fluxcore, but i am by no means really tight with them. i print some of their flyers though. my friends also just played at the congress theater for lumpens "hallowave". they go by the name of "ghost arcade" but they disbanded after that show. that show was done by lumpen and fluxcore. we're slowly but surely getting a foot-hold in chicago. i'd say this next year will be a good growth period for us. what do you go by @ smartbar?

LEFTHANDLOU

20th November 2002, 02:30

I Live in LA, so all sorts of shit can be found, for some reason always the generic crappy stuff.

Bad Trance, BAd House (flacid), DARK ugly overdone D&B, Electro might show its head in someones set but usually by accident.

The good part is plenty of good DJ's come through, so that saves it.

I think its just because the general Public is not into the music as much as the freaks on this board are

pille'ocheoni

20th November 2002, 03:02

well not much going on in this town.except the ussual breaks and your florida funky bullshit.me and two ther guys are pushing and have been pushing experimental but nobodys catching on,we want to do a jazz night with mostly live influenced groups trios and whatever but all we have is breaks dj's.no more shity dj's!its been a long time since i seen a dj rocj a house and do it with some style.except sheridan's mix cd.got to check that out:)

gunjack

20th November 2002, 03:06

Originally posted by LEFTHANDLOU
I Live in LA, so all sorts of shit can be found, for some reason always the generic crappy stuff.

Bad Trance, BAd House (flacid), DARK ugly overdone D&B, Electro might show its head in someones set but usually by accident.

The good part is plenty of good DJ's come through, so that saves it.

I think its just because the general Public is not into the music as much as the freaks on this board are

l.a. has alot of cool shit going on right now!

anyway tokyo has so much music and talent, whatever you are into, you can find it here

Sheridan

20th November 2002, 07:50

Originally posted by pille'ocheoni
well not much going on in this town.except the ussual breaks and your florida funky bullshit

sheridan's mix cd.got to check that out:)

haha! you can run but you can not hide from the funk that is florida breaks!:-p icey and baby anne never sleep. (insert sarcastic voice tone here)

thanks roche, you are too kind.

ischo

20th November 2002, 10:54

down here in frankfurt there's lots 'o crappy "in-style" lounges and "dress to impress" venues. with all of them BMW pimps and their super-stylin' gucci-handbag chicks.

but then again, there's my beloved robert-johnson. (guess i'm a glitch-house-bitcher). and there's plenty of smaller clubs like vinylbar, kiosk...that just don't care about mainstream techno-stuff like the u60311 and do their very own, refreshing thing.

lots of nu-asian down here aswell.....

Mui

20th November 2002, 10:57

the sound in our town is known as the "dodgy cover band sound" which involves bands getting up and singing the same crap songs by blink 182 and live, with crap names like "hard copy" and "fridge magnet" the latter give out fridge magnets....so I can throw them at them

wheezer

20th November 2002, 12:17

robert johnson does seem to have phat lineups...

in my town the most popular style of dance music seems to be shit, closely followed by more shit.

marcel

20th November 2002, 14:40

Originally posted by wheezer

in my town the most popular style of dance music seems to be shit, closely followed by more shit.
its like everythere, isn't it?

in chemnitz the people are into fucking schranz and hardcore, here known as 'hakke'.
'we need it fast fast fast and hard hard hard'-means: more boring shit please

sometimes you can't puke that much you want to
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hope this will be better this weekend with cora s at the turnies..i need to freak out again, its been a while now

Mercedez Ben

20th November 2002, 15:02

All very interesting and thank you, but i'm interested in what YOU'RE interested in. Not what sucks in your town unless that's all there is. I mean, even if your scene is two people deep, that's what I'm interested in. And ok, if there is no scene, then what's developing in your HEAD. And thanks again if you care to share.

Piscares-I go by Mercedez Ben. The other residents are Josh Werner, Marko Katic and Mani Miglani. The crew's known as EAR and yes, please give us a mix. If you want to send it you can mail me, Ben Goldberger @

1970 Sheridan Rd.
Evanston IL 60202

or come to the next show on Nov. 30 with Adam Marshal. I won't be there but I can tell the other guys to look out for you.

Sheridan

20th November 2002, 15:51

Originally posted by Mercedez Ben

1970 Sheridan Rd.
Evanston IL 60202

AWESOME! can you steal me a road sign by chance??:D

mattp

20th November 2002, 15:53

The village church bells ..... every fifth sunday @ 9.00 .... the gits ...

KaOz

20th November 2002, 15:58

iiam living in ludwigshafen/mannheim....drum and bass is very big here....and no places for some experimental hards like me, but very good jazz clubs or jazz nights.....

and dont forget the schranz music ::(

deccard

20th November 2002, 16:20

here in frankfurt we also have the goldfinger which is often hosted by mille plateaux/force inc. acts.
it was a small tabledanceclub. last month there played suthek live, asmus tietchens and other live acts in that direction.
i think the "idm" scene is growing here.
i miss nu skool breaks in frankfurt and wonky techno but maybe we can work on that :)

ischo

20th November 2002, 16:55

fuck decc,

i thought tomoki and myself are the only frankfurter jungs round here....
oh, i just remembered a thread about us playing @ vinylbar about a week or something before your mates did, ah shite, my brain's like a "Sieb" .......(what's that in denglish, anyone?)

ischo

20th November 2002, 16:56

btw, where's

the goldfinger

only know golden gate, lol

pille'ocheoni

20th November 2002, 17:28

wow deccard,i really like amus.did you see that show?id wish those types would come here,but it looks like im going to have to go to them.ive been talking to greg davis who is on carpark records and hes up in the boston area and would love to come to the south it's just the fact of money and how many people would accually come to venue.well hes right and i think nobody would show unless i told them too.theres a couple of heads but not many.when i make my journey to europe i will deffinetly make up for the time i spent wishing about the shows i could have gone too.

Sheridan

20th November 2002, 18:04

Originally posted by ischo
fuck decc,
, my brain's like a "Sieb" .......(what's that in denglish, anyone?)

filter? thats what sherlock told me on my mac.

pille'ocheoni

20th November 2002, 18:37

damn it i need a MAC AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

ischo

20th November 2002, 18:43

yeah, well filter don't fit exactly,

more kinda like them thing those ol' golddiggers used to "x" through the water to "filter" the yummy gold....

sounds like I'm big in western business lol

jukka

20th November 2002, 19:34

Originally posted by aleks
neotrance, funkydiscohouse and the usual billboard stuff. great, isn´t it? it´s just me mates and i and maybe 20 other people into good music...and i only know 2 other guys who are really into the no-future sound. correct me if i am wrong jukka?!

i am sad i can't correct you :(

Sheridan

20th November 2002, 20:14

oh you mean sifter.
they would use a 'gold pan' to sift through the water and only capture the gold. is that what you were reffering to?

Tomoki

20th November 2002, 22:38

Originally posted by ischo
btw, where's

the goldfinger

only know golden gate, lol

It´s located in the Münchnerstrasse 9, thats the reason the club is sometimes called "Spielplatz M9"! It´s also a subdivision of the Golden Gate.

Deccard isn´t a Frankfurterlol , he´s from a "Nachbarghetto".

Ava

25th November 2002, 20:25

here in bristol a lot of people are into drum and bass, hiphop. no techno except for the acid tekno variety which tends to get a bit boring - just 909 and303 (in a bad way)

there used to be future funk which had techno both schranz and wonky - but its finished now.

theres good experimental music at the cube cinema

anyway - i got my auth for MaxMsp today, so i'mjust going to stay in and make tunes instead of going out.:illin:

emef

25th November 2002, 21:06

preston is currently bigging it up to all the latest badass pop monsters the charts have to offer...long live the top 40

namshub

25th November 2002, 21:54

savage garden R from bris... pretty much our bad arsed ghetto boys from bris... and the sound of tomorrow...

DsD

26th November 2002, 08:11

hm the sound in my city... we don`t have much clubs with electronic music left here but we have one great club... neue heimat. thx to tanja alex and daniel benavente. ;)

owain_k

26th November 2002, 12:14

Well, given that I am from Wales.....Mostly Male Voice Choirs, Rugby Songs with the Odd Manic Street Preacher's Chorus down the pub on a Saturday night after a few pints of Brain's S.A. Bitter ;)

Silly comment aside, I guess our collective play acros the board:

House/Techno/Breaks/Drum & Bass/Hip-Hop

In fact, Drum & Bass is massive in my city (Cardiff), with several regular nights which run both Weekly and monthly...not to mention the new UK Star "High Contrast" being a local boyo !

Personally, I am more of the techno-house persuasion.

filthydave

26th November 2002, 15:24

nottingham's pretty eclectic a bit of everything goes off here but it's mainly a drum and bass/house town with massive helpings of hard house and other commercial tripe
then there's us lot goin TECHNO! TECHNO! TECHNO! as loud as we can!

deccard

27th November 2002, 01:21

@pille: i haven´t seen the asmus live act. cause of a lackin driving licence and a car i´m a bit fucked out here cause i don´t live in frankfurt but very close.
so i miss a lot i would like to see....and sometimes all happens on the same weekend like super_collider in kassel and suthek live in frankfurt...that sucks....

@ischo: i play at the schaubar this friday with two other guys. minimal to house...

ischo

27th November 2002, 11:35

this friday, the 29th?

sounds goood...just around the corner of my work

tsr_tomas

27th November 2002, 16:23

in stockholm we have a www.svaj.com it´s a electronic music Café with diffrent dj´s all the time, cause any one can book them self on a list at the café.

then we have two Electronica Club´s, one it´s called Electronic desert and the other Darkelectronica(or something like that).

then we have a Electroclub - Clear every friday.

we have none Technoclub that is running regularie, it´s just pop up some techno night every now and then =/

and then there are no brigthon techno scene in sight =(
still Cynthia stern has tried many time, but everytime has ended with the policebreaking up the parties.

with the non electronic scene we have almost everything from jazz, rock, pop, indie, synth and all the other shit...

cheers
stockholm !

Mercedez Ben

27th November 2002, 16:25

tsr

is that you: "we are not sick men?"

tsr_tomas

27th November 2002, 16:29

Mercedez Ben: yes it´s me... why ?

Tomoki

27th November 2002, 18:17

I am receiving the techstylism newsletter for parties in Stockholm and the lineup looks pretty nice

Mercedez Ben

27th November 2002, 19:21

sorry man, asleep at the switch.

i was just listening to it last night is why.

enjoying your wackiness brotha

zongkong

27th November 2002, 21:14

mercedez - luckily you haven't heard "Bajs i bastun"

8-()

I think you forgot Fylkingen/The Nursery Tomas..

The Nursery is a somewhat pretensious club in Stockholm for electronica/clip hop.

Here in Luleå however, there is no such thing as a scene when it comes to electronic forms of music.
What is going in my mind right now is that Edinbourgh style is making a big comeback after many years 8-() .
Also, I have fallen for a synth/electro hybrid which is more melodious and focused on the build-up/arrangement rather than the actual beat - good examples on what I mean would be Anthony Rother - Little Computer People and GD Luxxe - 21st Door EP.
So what's going out? I used to like house and vocal house (Kerri Chandler-like stuff) a lot. Those records don't get played a lot these days, and neither does the The Advent and Adam Beyer-style loop techno.

Hmm this turned out as an essay didn't it.. :D
peace

pille'ocheoni

27th November 2002, 21:24

yeah i miss those days of larry heard,iz and diz,and the likes of femi kuti.very broad but they express the days of smooth elite weekends where everyone had some class.unlike the fucks with the ....well you know:)yeah i spun house ,really deep house for years,some 5-6 years.i miss it............whimper whimper...............

wheezer

27th November 2002, 21:30

iz & diz, and loads of other acts from the classic stable are still gr8 imho...

Mercedez Ben

27th November 2002, 22:00

aha! the househeads are rearing their ugly messageboard-house-heads. i just knew it! yeah, i love house too. that deep stuff. crazy for moodyman and signature stuff on the more chill side of course.

Sheridan

28th November 2002, 02:06

I like g-pal stuff. not too sure if you would consider him straight up house.
inland nights are tight as well.

piscaries

28th November 2002, 02:12

i don't know how big he got outside of chicago, but i miss boo williams. damn he spun good house. and jevon jackson did too. whatever happened to good souldful house? oh wait, i know: the groovebox and daft punk.

pille'ocheoni

28th November 2002, 03:30

yeah house is great.can never turn down some house.and im proud to say i have every herbert record ever made.even the dj boom stuff.you know svek,weekend world,etc........i wish people round here enjoyed that stuff,i played once here and played some really nice house and .people started comin up to me and asking if i would play some baby ann,and i said fuck off.then i never played agian.[p]

actionjetzon

28th November 2002, 07:39

yeah, be real pille! cool

In Hannover the loopy "Schranz" sound will going to be big in the near future...Liebing, Remus, Rush...etc, and the people go mad!
But its only one club which plays that sound.
In other you only hear neo-trance and bottom-house.

deccard

28th November 2002, 11:34

what is bottom house? arschwackelhouse?

V Knid esq

28th November 2002, 11:34

Well I live in Southeast London, and it's all R&B. I'm in Amsterdam right now, and the Dutch have some veeeery good taste - lots of electro, jacking chicago stuff and hip hop out the yin yang.

gunjack

28th November 2002, 11:43

i gotta say that here in tokyo, the nofuture sound was huge earlier this year and last year, but Detroit techno is now what drives people mad in the clubs. the biggest nights are when Claude/uncle Jeff/UR play in the city.

as far as the whole schranz thing is concerned, i will be glad to never hear that word again. it is preposterous to lump artists like Surgeon and Leibing in the same lame genre'. would james ruskin be schranz? How about, regis, christian wunsch, oscar mulero or me? The whole schranz thing is dumb. I do understand that there is mindless brain mashing loop techno out there, but alot of great dj tools are on the market as well.

Quality will speak for itself and techno is changing...

detroit was where it started, but techno back then was a word for house made with cheaper gear! juan and the boys were working with what they had and derrick and kevin were just trying to make house like the boys in chicago were doing. it is just like motown, they were trying to do r&b with the resources they had at hand.

nothing is changed by one person alone. sounds change as situations do.

actionjetzon

28th November 2002, 14:42

yeah deccard....popo-house!

pille'ocheoni

28th November 2002, 15:43

yeah detroit techno is the shit.....i love that shit.......have any of you heard this new soul/gospel/clip-hop/glitch/.....stuff.its getting very popular around the clip-hop heads like me.but id ont know if anyone else is catching on.heheheheh[p]

jukka

28th November 2002, 18:16

Originally posted by gunjack
i gotta say that here in tokyo, the nofuture sound was huge earlier this year and last year, but Detroit techno is now what drives people mad in the clubs. the biggest nights are when Claude/uncle Jeff/UR play in the city.
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eh..you lucky man...there are sometimes ur nights going on in in tokyo, or am i wrong ???
would love to have an ur night going on here !!!!!
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as far as the whole schranz thing is concerned, i will be glad to never hear that word again. it is preposterous to lump artists like Surgeon and Leibing in the same lame genre'. would james ruskin be schranz? How about, regis, christian wunsch, oscar mulero or me? The whole schranz thing is dumb. I do understand that there is mindless brain mashing loop techno out there, but alot of great dj tools are on the market as well.
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yes, if they like your sound or ruskins sound or regis sound etc....they would call it schranz becouse they call everything kinda music schranz if they like it !!!!! StUpId.......
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Quality will speak for itself and techno is changing...

detroit was where it started, but techno back then was a word for house made with cheaper gear! juan and the boys were working with what they had and derrick and kevin were just trying to make house like the boys in chicago were doing. it is just like motown, they were trying to do r&b with the resources they had at hand.

nothing is changed by one person alone. sounds change as situations do.

M H

28th November 2002, 18:26

Originally posted by Sheridan

inland nights are tight as well.

MENTAL! They live down the road from me, we used to all drink in the same boozer.. used to go to some mad underground house music parties that they were involved in...

invisibleplanet

28th November 2002, 19:45

we have Messrs Nuccles and Humphires (COLD DUST) playing live @the Orbit on Saturday - original techno boyz, there sound is moving with the times..still progressive.

we're very very much spoilt for choice here in Leeds for good music!

shall i list everything which is going down here?

zongkong

28th November 2002, 19:57

please do.

gunjack

29th November 2002, 09:07

Originally posted by jukka
eh..you lucky man...there are sometimes ur nights going on in in tokyo, or am i wrong ???
would love to have an ur night going on here !!!!!

yes, but UR nights are always at liquid room and i HATE liquid room. surgeon is playing there tonight and i don't have the money to go
: p

clubbing in tokyo is too fucking expen$ive