G8 riots in edinburgh

[gypsy_cream]

still shit kickin off....more busy than i thought it would be!

http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/6189/riot01edinburgh9ge.jpg

[Sheridan]

your link is bunk clair.

[gypsy_cream]

yeh imtryin to fix it at the mo

[Sheridan]

word.

[gypsy_cream]

http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/5020/riot02edinburgh6qw.jpg

[Loz]

I'm trying to work out who's on the offensive in that picture?

are the police running into that area, or quickly retreating?

[gypsy_cream]

alot of people are saying that its the police that have started alot of the violence..... i'm thinking the less police there is the less people would retaliate, people are obviously gonna get riled up when policemen are runnin towards them with huge batons and sheilds

[gypsy_cream]

http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/9966/riot03edinburgh8sk.jpg

[Sheridan]

nice.

now playing slayer: dittohead

[gypsy_cream]

more pics http://editorial.gettyimages.com/source/search/FrameSet.aspx?s=ImagesSearchSt ate%7c0%7c0%7c28%7c0%7c0%7c0%7 c1%7c%7c%7c0%7c0%7c0%7c0%7c0%7 c0%7c0%7c0%7c7%7cedinburgh%7c0 %7c0%7c0%7c0%7c0&p=7&tag=3

[Sheridan]

Originally posted by gypsy_cream
alot of people are saying that its the police that have started alot of the violence..... i'm thinking the less police there is the less people would retaliate, people are obviously gonna get riled up when policemen are runnin towards them with huge batons and sheilds

exactly. it's usually the cops that actually create what they are supposed to prevent. they are all scared about a riot breaking out that they actually start it. you know, the whole preemptive strike thing. it's very 2003.

[Sheridan]

Originally posted by gypsy_cream
more pics here (http://editorial.gettyimages.com/source/search/FrameSet.aspx?s=EventImagesSea rchState%7c1%7c0%7c28%7c0%7c0% 7c0%7c1%7c0%7c0%7c0%7c53187994 %7c0%7c0%7c0%7c0%7c0%7c%7c0%7c 0%7c0%7c0%7c0&p=7&tag=2)

try again.

in the speak & spell voice of course.

[gypsy_cream]

damn these links!!

if you go to: http://editorial.gettyimages.com/ ...then search for edinburgh theres loads on it

[JE:5]

This is a great picture :)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/41265000/jpg/_41265407_edinbaton300x220.jpg

[Sheridan]

Originally posted by JE:5
This is a great picture :)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/41265000/jpg/_41265407_edinbaton300x220.jpg

go back to bed everyone.
a new episode of big brother is on.
and that american idol winner should have her debut cd out in no time.
there is nothing to see here.

[gypsy_cream]

fucking mental!!

my mate went along to take photos and film some of it (also out of curiosity) and he ended up stuck between blockades for ages and there was pepper spray gettin used by the polis..eek

[Loz]

bit harsh, though, I wouldn't attack a policeman without body armour on, it's only fair

[gypsy_cream]

haha

[gunjack]

forgive my ignorance, but what is the clash about anyway? what kind of protest was that?! looks like the seattle WTO riot except the cops aint shooting ppl

[gypsy_cream]

only reason the cops aint shootin is cos they dont have guns

[dom_90]

Originally posted by Sheridan


exactly. it's usually the cops that actually create what they are supposed to prevent. they are all scared about a riot breaking out that they actually start it. you know, the whole preemptive strike thing. it's very 2003.

nah, it was started by those cunts called the Black Bloc; bunch of mongos. they don't really support anything the just hate it all and wanted to start something.
also there are loads of ned fucks in burgh and they all had a go too. even the ned kids were throwing stuff.

[gypsy_cream]

nah man it was also cops lunging in too!!!

[dom_90]

i dont think so.
when something like this happens everybody automatically wants to say the police are fucking radge and were heavy handed whatever; balls, they just say that cos it makes them sound "cool" the police were there to do their job which is to calm everyone down, and that as far as i'm concerned is what they've done.

[gypsy_cream]

its a mixture of total idiots and fools goin down to see what the craic is then polis being too strong i think

[schlongfingers]

heheheheheh

Fuckem.. looking forward to the pics from round two tomorrow.

[gypsy_cream]

BOLITICS

[dom_90]

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y290/Hammer_Horror/53193543.jpg

i like this one, he looks like a tourist lol

[gypsy_cream]

the map of edinburgh kinda gives it away haha

[Hagbard]

Originally posted by gunjack
forgive my ignorance, but what is the clash about anyway? what kind of protest was that?! looks like the seattle WTO riot except the cops aint shooting ppl

Similar premise to Seattle Gunjack, the G8 are meeting near to Edinburgh this week. We're hearing about nothing else in the UK, about how America hold all the cards in terms of whether new agreements on trade to Africa and Climate change are reached, and in the US no one really seems to know this or Live8 are happening :D

[dom_90]

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y290/Hammer_Horror/53183921.jpg

i hate fucking eejits like this. what a fucking cunt, with her fancy sunglasses, what the fuck does she know about poverty. i'm sure its just what that fucking mongo Bob has told her. i'm surprised she's not listening to her fucking ipod. pleb whore.
200,000 middle class wankers marching for poverty! daft.


(sorry i haven't had a cigarette in awhile.)

[nikrem]

Originally posted by dom_90
i dont think so.
when something like this happens everybody automatically wants to say the police are fucking radge and were heavy handed whatever; balls, they just say that cos it makes them sound "cool" the police were there to do their job which is to calm everyone down, and that as far as i'm concerned is what they've done.

get a grip

[dom_90]

what do you mean?
as far as i'm concerned all that the protesting has achieved thus far is a fuck load of mess and a huge bill for people paying their tax.

[nikrem]

you (?) already pay loads for the police/iraq/election campaigns/a shambles run by cunts; what the fuck is wrong with taking to the streets when the excuse arises and shouting about it?

[gunjack]

hey steev thanks for the run down.


Originally posted by gypsy_cream
only reason the cops aint shootin is cos they dont have guns


a country where the cops dont have guns, that is so alien to the rest of the world......... must be why you folks in london think they can get away with so much lol


anyway globalization is the stupidest thing... i mean yeah!let's create black market EVERYTHING(!) so we can have super villians like in james bond.


seriously though if we all globalized imagine the illicit trade in ordinary items?!?!?

[spw]

These protesters have the right idea.
Free trade has not had a positive result on the US economy which has an increasing big corporate influence.
On paper globalism may seem like a good idea until you realize more wealth and power will go to the rich bloodline few and
big cooperate conglomerates selling mass produced goods from slave labe type conditions overseas.
And then the standard of living where you live will lower.
I was reading in the paper a Fed man saying WAL-MART gives poor people in small towns the ability to afford a new pair of
shoes.
What a joke.
Instead of quality cottage industry products where money goes back into the community or small business you get mass
produced plastic crap made in China.
Instead of organic grown vegetables at the local farmers market look forward to genetic engineered, pesticide invested
vegetables that give you cancer/allergies like most mass produced goods.
But wait. The big pharmaceuticals have an answer to that with an over the counter pill for your occasional sad feelings,
allergies from pollution in the air and crap chemical artificial food you buy at some chain grocery store. Before you know it
your a compliant materialistic pop culture fad zombie.
Guess what? When Europe finally is forced into the EU probably with an 9-11 type attack no more legalized
hemp in places like Holland.
It cuts into the profit of over the counter medication.

[gunjack]

man folks back in the u.s. would call you an extremist,but i think ya got the right idea.....


seriously though, the only good part about it is we could all become black market matress dealers... or maybe coffee???

[spw]

Behind closed doors these G-8 leaders would probably love to see a reduction of the Earth's population.
Look at AIDS.
Does some C.E.O. at Exxon/ Mobile give a shit about the environment or some endangered species?
What's more important to an international banker a billion dollar profit margin or you?

[gunjack]

yea mang but what the fuck are we supposed to do about it? you see what happens at legal protests..................



and the whole thing is just un-american anyway - let's get rid of all small biz, then only the big corps will have the resources to come out with products.......... small biz made our country.... its like govenor shwartzenegger (cant believe i just used that phrase) making his first official act in office to attack immigrants.... didnt you come to the usa from austria years back with a dream? i guess that was before martia shriver(sp?) no?


man whatever happened to the good old days when kennedys were democrats?????

[Sheridan]

Originally posted by dom_90
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y290/Hammer_Horror/53183921.jpg

i hate fucking eejits like this. what a fucking cunt, with her fancy sunglasses, what the fuck does she know about poverty. i'm sure its just what that fucking mongo Bob has told her. i'm surprised she's not listening to her fucking ipod. pleb whore.
200,000 middle class wankers marching for poverty! daft.


(sorry i haven't had a cigarette in awhile.)

I'd hit it.

[Yer_Maw]

no riots please, we're British.

[V Knid esq]

Originally posted by gunjack
man whatever happened to the good old days when kennedys were democrats?????

Were they fuck. The Kennedys were Kennedys first and foremost - out to fulfill whatever twisted plans old man Joe had for them, to get paid and get laid. Perhaps Bobby had some idealism when it came to his gang-busting stuff, but look where that's got America...

OK I read too much James Ellroy.

Re: SPW's comments, you are confusing free trade (which is the dogma spouted by US politicians) and its total opposite protectionism (which is the reality of the USA's corrupt foreign policy). It's all very well saying "G8 bad, Africa good" and lob petrol bombs but what do you expect that to ACHIEVE? Are the major powers going to go "oh sorry, we were wrong", dismantle their power structures and fly off in their lizard ships, pausing only to sprinkle flower and hemp seeds all over Africa creating a new Eden? No. If you believe in revolution, that's another matter - but to the best of my knowledge the ketamine-gargling trustafarians who make up a fair amount of the british anti-globalisation movement are a long way from having the organisational skills to bring down their own trousers, let alone the government. However we can alter things by increment. Peaceful protest and lobbying DOES work - I haven't found that research I mentioned earlier. But first you need to know what you want. You need to know the specific pieces of legislation you are and are not in favour of. Why aren't people lobbying to have the universities and technical institutes in African countries supported and protected from government interference? Or to make sure that overseas development organisations aren't pressured by third world despots into recommending vanity projects like gigantic dams instead of intermediate technology projects which would allow isolated communities to run their own infrastructures? Or to heckle against the patenting of GM seeds, which keeps the farmers beholden to corporations and bans them from using their own produce as next year's seed stock (but no, of course any anti-capitalist knows that GM is baaaad, man)? Or look into ways that connectivity can help isolated communities, like the way that one of the few ways ordinary Ghanaians are thriving is by working out low-tech hacks for mobile phones, thus allowing small businesses to set up even in tiny villages?

Nah fuck that, let's just dress in macho black, bung some drugs down our necks and chuck rocks at police horses. That'll help our African brothers and sisters.

[phil]

Great, that sounds really inspiring, a mobile phone business from a mud hut. How fukin depressing.

[phil]

yeah mate, fuck babylon at any given opportunity. and all u mug cunts who say it achieves nothing, ur fucking cunts. cus your being watched from planet Sirius and your life log is being updated constantly. So carry on watching TV and being a cunt with no balls. Leave the revolution for the real men.

[Lighter Thief]

Originally posted by dom_90
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y290/Hammer_Horror/53183921.jpg

i hate fucking eejits like this. what a fucking cunt, with her fancy sunglasses, what the fuck does she know about poverty. i'm sure its just what that fucking mongo Bob has told her. i'm surprised she's not listening to her fucking ipod. pleb whore.
200,000 middle class wankers marching for poverty! daft.


(sorry i haven't had a cigarette in awhile.)

Go and have a cigarette and stop talking such shit, you buffoon.

[V Knid esq]

Originally posted by phil
yeah mate, fuck babylon at any given opportunity. and all u mug cunts who say it achieves nothing, ur fucking cunts. cus your being watched from planet Sirius and your life log is being updated constantly. So carry on watching TV and being a cunt with no balls. Leave the revolution for the real men.

No you're right. Tooting on the DMT pipe and shouting "SIRIUS" in answer to anything anyone says is far more important than knowing anything about other people in other countries' lives.

Please set out your plans for a "real men's" revolution. Does it involve lots of really sexy outfits? And lots of shouting? And really hardcore drugs? Ooh I hope so.

[V Knid esq]

Seriously Phil, you sound like Pongoid.

[phil]

um.ur. well, um, i think u should get a super soaker and squirt the police horses first. that will tell em'. then throw carrots on the floor to distract them. i got it all planned out u see.

[Spandex]

Knid.. you're in danger of sounding like New Labour with your ever so reasonable scoffing and completely unreasonable picture of the anti-globalisation movement as a bunch of no-hopers who need to learn about the complexities of realpolitik. I've never heard anyone talk about overnight revolution.. everyone understands that it's about grassroots change, peaceful protest and incremental improvement, as you say. Next thing you'll be telling us that the "anarchists hate our freedom" :)

Also, I'm not sure lobbying is part of the deal. To my mind, lobbying is something that's done by large companies with lots of money and they change the law in their favour not ours. But is "writing to your MP" counted as lobbying? If so, there almost needs to be two words for it now.. cos corporate lobbying is very effective (they hold the purse strings and are pretty much part of govt now) whereas private lobbying only seems useful if you want your trees pollarded or your pavements jetwashed.

What's the research you're on about.. soz.. couldn't find in this thread.. sommat saying "Lobbying Works" maybe? Would be really interested in it if u can find it.

[darrell]

http://www.infowars.com/video/previews/ps3/qt_bb.htm

[V Knid esq]

Sorry lobbying was not necessarily the word I was looking for. I'm talking about the sort of smaller targeted single-issue demos practiced by the likes of Campaign Against The Arms Trade - demos which make sure they are seen by and try to make contact with the specific departments in corporations and the civil service which make decisions on the specific issues... You're right though, of course there are plenty of non-violent, clued-up protest organisations. I'm just a tad jaded by the diehard squat muppets I kept coming across in Brighton who would muscle in and get their clunky views heard more than more intelligent and practical people by sheer virtue of brew-fuelled volume.

...The research I was on about was something in New Scientist that showed fairly clearly that in the US when there are more issue-specific demos on environmental issues, more environmental legislation gets passed, even factoring in the natural bias of Democrats and Republicans.

[decadnids]

i wanna know what people are doing about the poverty in mongolia...

[joe pinapples]

havent u heard - thats the next concert MONG-AIDS!

[phil]

good link Darrell. We are all Slaves. im scared

[decadnids]

Originally posted by joe pinapples
havent u heard - thats the next concert MONG-AIDS!

nah i am serious, mongolia is fucked. no-one even gives a shit. its never talked about.

[phil]

You care though. Maybe that will help. Somehow

[penciLneck]

Originally posted by darrell
http://www.infowars.com/video/previews/ps3/qt_bb.htm

oh no not alex jones!

[darrell]

phil must care hes part mongo..

[phil]

oh no what? Do u think hes mad? Do you? DO you? Do you think hes chatting total fucking dog shit? Do you? do you?

fair enough. Alex Jones is the don mate. Yeah now write a sweaping Sleaze nation cool sentance about Lizards KEtamine fueled madness.

Mate, hes closer to the truth than u imagine. And Ive been to outerpace.,

[decadnids]

Darrell i find that really insulting. get a grip.

[Spandex]

Originally posted by V Knid esq
I'm just a tad jaded by the diehard squat muppets I kept coming across in Brighton

Really don't seem to see those round here. Or maybe I just filter them out.

Originally posted by V Knid esq
...The research I was on about was something in New Scientist that showed fairly clearly that in the US when there are more issue-specific demos on environmental issues, more environmental legislation gets passed

Thassit init... despite all their efforts to minimise the effects of the "voice of the people", they're still aware that they have to pay some attention when thousand or millions of people march to say "we're not having this". It does make them sit up.. and maybe lends a bit of spine to those elected representatives who'd like to stand up for what's right.. but need to *see* the people on their side.

[phil]

we need a good old paradigm shift.

[Virus]

Originally posted by decadnids


nah i am serious, mongolia is fucked. no-one even gives a shit. its never talked about.

agreed, my work had a collaboration going with some mongolian scientists for a while so we could help them out setting up viral diagnostics. When it was finally working it was found that the HIV , Hepatitis B (in particular) and C rate was insanely high. There is literally is no healthcare infrastructure at all so everyone dies. We're currently trying to get money off bill gates vaccination foundation to try and do more work there to generate the impetus to set up a Hep B vaccination program and a proper screening service, fingers crossed

[decadnids]

good luck Virus! - sounds like a good cause!!

i know the population of mongolia is only like 2.8 million people, but its no reason for the rest of the world to totally forget about them. and so many other countries that are just left to fend for themselves.

[alan_decal]

Biggest problem with all the protests over the last few years (Iraq, WTO, G8 etc) is that they come almost exclusively from the liberal middle classes - whose views are already well known by those in power.
Unless your average factory working joe (excuse the generalisation) decides to down tools and protest, imho it has no real affect on the views of polititians.

[phil]

We need another petrol crisis. but make sure this time those cunts stop printing about Ambulances running out of petrol.

[decadnids]

i presume most ambulances are diesel, so they should convert them to veg oil (an easy conversion).

[Paddy]

fuck it, not workin.

[alan_decal]

Yup, a petrol crisis that brings on a general strike would be a good start.

[love_tempo]

I'm inclined to believe the suggestions that the police are mostly at fault here.

In the reclaim the streets march in Dublin, where the demonstrators were completely placid, they weighed in and beat people indiscriminately.

If you look at the film footage you can see from the riot polices movements that they aren't just holding their line, but are getting angry and actively striking outwards against people.

They aren't professionals doing their job, but control freaks beating people that they hate. I imagine that a lot of them actually like taking their aggression out on people like this.

I can just imagine the conversations down the pub later where they scoff at the people they battered and have a good laugh about it all.

[joe pinapples]

theres loads and loads of coppers in glasgow today - including two fuckwits standing outside Borders bookshop -

[Lighter Thief]

Originally posted by love_tempo
I'm inclined to believe the suggestions that the police are mostly at fault here.

In the reclaim the streets march in Dublin, where the demonstrators were completely placid, they weighed in and beat people indiscriminately.

If you look at the film footage you can see from the riot polices movements that they aren't just holding their line, but are getting angry and actively striking outwards against people.

They aren't professionals doing their job, but control freaks beating people that they hate. I imagine that a lot of them actually like taking their aggression out on people like this.

I can just imagine the conversations down the pub later where they scoff at the people they battered and have a good laugh about it all.

Undoubtedly. Riot police are hired because they're big and they like fighting.

[joe pinapples]

that reminds me of the pro-hunting march down in london when otis fuckwit ferry and his pals broke into the commons - it was hilarious to see the hoorah henry's getting a battering from the cops and the interviews after:

"I can't belive the brutality - they charged us!" etc ad infinity -

Ha ha you cunts welcome to what its like for the rest of us, boo fucking hoo ...

[Yer_Maw]

Originally posted by joe pinapples
theres loads and loads of coppers in glasgow today - including two fuckwits standing outside Borders bookshop -

Yeah there was a demonstration outside the MOD this mornig, 2 secs from my work. In my early mornig daze i never even noticed it. See, thats the kind of apathy we have to deal with these days.

[Lighter Thief]

lol

[joe pinapples]

A demo? Its good to know Borders is protected from daft 'anarchists' who might mistake it for the Immigration Office and firebomb it!

[gypsy_cream]

most riot police (and other officers) love to throw their authority around... ive seen a mate gettin beaten up by 6 offduty polismen just cos he wrote a little tag on a door with a pen when he was pissed, he was bleeding from his temple and they didnt even give a shit.... oh but yeh he was a pissed up graf writer so he deserved it? aye right.. i reckon if there was hardly any polismen there yesterday the protesters probly would have just marched up and down through edinburgh shoutin alot. i;m sure there was alot of wanna be anarchists and idiots goin down drunk and wasted wanting trouble but all they needed was supervised (as there were people with baseball bats) by polismen not barged and pushed around, which just riles people up even more!!

it all goes hand in hand....bad shit from both sides imo

[decadnids]

Originally posted by joe pinapples
A demo? Its good to know Borders is protected from daft 'anarchists' who might mistake it for the Immigration Office and firebomb it!

joe - can you stop using the term anarchist. even if its in ' ' - you should refer to these people as feeble minded goons.

[love_tempo]

It also seems to me that whenever there is a seriously troublesome mob, like drunk rioting football fans, they seem to have a much harder time getting things under control and it goes on all night with a lot more damage done to bystanders, property AND police.

The fact that things stayed calm after the cops retired home for the night suggests that the police were a cause not a solution. Or do the protestors also like to go to bed early?

[Patrick]

Originally posted by decadnids


joe - can you stop using the term anarchist. even if its in ' ' - you should refer to these people as feeble minded goons.

That was really bugging me on the BBC news last night. 'Anarchist' is their catch all term for any yob who takes to the streets looking for a ruck.

[gypsy_cream]

alot of people who think they are anarchists dont even know the meaning of the word anarchy

[gypsy_cream]

wonder if more riots are gonna happen

[Yer_Maw]

Originally posted by Patrick


That was really bugging me on the BBC news last night. 'Anarchist' is their catch all term for any yob who takes to the streets looking for a ruck.

Ah right, so thats why people fight in city centres on a saturday night. bloody anarchists.

[gypsy_cream]

Originally posted by gunjack


must be why you folks in london think they can get away with so much lol


whole of uk more like!!

[Hagbard]

Originally posted by decadnids
i wanna know what people are doing about the poverty in mongolia...

I thought it was interesting that Japan pretty much completely ignored Live8... I wonder if they would feel more empathy for Mongolians?

[penciLneck]

I thought they had the first concert?

[phil]

Wise up or get geldolphed up
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[Hagbard]

Originally posted by penciLneck
I thought they had the first concert?

They did, it was a bit of a flop and no one took much notice apparently.

[Patrick]

Originally posted by phil
Wise up or get geldolphed up
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[dom_90]

most of the police in Edinburgh yesterday were English. their tactics were tried and tested in London and they work. this probably means nothing but worthy of a mention.
i saw sussex police today.

[operator]

I'm positive that 99.9 percent of the fannies that were waltzing through my city over the last few days have no idea why they're there.
Bandwagon jumping trustifarians draining the scottish capital of hummus and chocolate soya milk.
The only uplifting aspect is the CCS and CSF have been hammering at that campsite in Niddrie they've been bundled off to.
The west is shit because it's full of bland opertunistic cunts who have no tangeable allegance to anything execept marketable consumer eletronics and meaningless tv drama.
If i hadnt run out of weed last night this would probably be less synical and dispondant.
But i did so everyone is officially a cunt

[Tuttle]

i love this pic.

[Spandex]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/4653545.stm
"We are asking people not to turn up for the march as we would not want to see peaceful protesters caught up with the anarchist elements in the march."

God forbid that normal law abiding citizens could get caught up with one of them crazy anarchists.. they keep bombs in their trousers you know.

[gypsy_cream]

its startin again!!

[Spandex]

I love the title of that article "Police call off G8 protest march".. hehehe... "King Cnut Cancels High Tide"

[decadnids]

it really annoys me because most of the people who cause the trouble are not even bloody protesters just a load of idiots up for a ruck , or who want to cause some damage. why dont the bloody media get it right and point out that these idiots are not bloody anarchists at all but a load of fools with no brain-cells who want to cause as much trouble as possible as it seems to them a bit of a laugh.

grrrrrrrrrrrr

[gypsy_cream]

thats alot of what it is... just saw a news report on tv from gleneagles... looks like loadsa neds are gettin balaclavaed up and goin along for a bit of boredom curing

[Lighter Thief]

Originally posted by decadnids
it really annoys me because most of the people who cause the trouble are not even bloody protesters just a load of idiots up for a ruck , or who want to cause some damage. why dont the bloody media get it right and point out that these idiots are not bloody anarchists at all but a load of fools with no brain-cells who want to cause as much trouble as possible as it seems to them a bit of a laugh.

grrrrrrrrrrrr

I totally agree. Damn those pesky cops!

[[sik]]

Originally posted by decadnids
it really annoys me because most of the people who cause the trouble are not even bloody protesters just a load of idiots up for a ruck , or who want to cause some damage. why dont the bloody media get it right and point out that these idiots are not bloody anarchists at all but a load of fools with no brain-cells who want to cause as much trouble as possible as it seems to them a bit of a laugh.

grrrrrrrrrrrr

we have these types in portland at marches, with masks, smashin shit up.
they work for the c.i.a whether they know it or not.
haha

[darrell]

In a lot of cases the police infiltrate the gangs then
start the trouble. The general public talk about the
anarchists smashing shit up. Thus deflecting what
the march was all about. a classic case of smoke and
mirrors...

[alan_decal]

On the subject of peaceful protest:
http://www.spinwatch.org/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=989

[[sik]]

im sik of the anarchists and the cops. i dont like gangs.
@darrell- i know ive seen it.

[decadnids]

sik - please refrain from using the term anarchist. - use mindless goons.

[gypsy_cream]

well all this bullshit better be worth it

[[sik]]

Originally posted by decadnids
sik - please refrain from using the term anarchist. - use mindless goons.
u got it man.
fukin hippys

[dan gulberry]

what a fuck up

The richest countries in the world tell the police to instigate violence so that they can blame protesters and cancel the most important march of the week.

what a country, what a world.

[gypsy_cream]

the "mindless goons" are gettin called anti capitalists on the news...

[Ubik]

I' ve been in genova during the g8 and believe me, police brutally attacked people without any reason
We was peaceful until police start to attack us with gas and start to beat everybody even people from red cross organizations



Here (http://www.ngvision.org/mediabase/338) you can dowload a movie from genova 2001, but remember that is very hard to see

You can also find it (with many pics) in my shared folder in soulseek, normally i' m in the erutofon room and my nick is marcoposse

In the pic below you can see the wall of a school where demonstrators were sleeping after a "police search"


http://www.tmcrew.org/g8/wallblood.jpg

[Ubik]

check also this old thread:
http://www.no-future.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=&threadid=3129

[gypsy_cream]

shit i remember that

[Basic 2: The Revenge]

It must be the same police then

[gypsy_cream]

im off up toon.....it was nice knowing yous

[Basic 2: The Revenge]

all the best

[gypsy_cream]

might stay in for a bit cos its started rainin

[Patrick]

I saw someone on the news earlier saying the police confiscated his didgeridoo so, y'know, it's not all bad news. If they confiscate some djembe drums off those bongo-drongoes I might even start to believe the police are acting in the best interests of everyone.

[Basic 2: The Revenge]

A police spokesman said...

"The weapon was confiscated as it could have been used to fire lentils at a high velocity into the poilce ranks - it was a matter of piublic safety"

[grunder]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by gunjack
[B]forgive my ignorance, but what is the clash about anyway?



a whole bunch of total fuking idiots after a fight......

and it sounds like half of you think thats agood think.....tits

[spw]

I don't condone violence and I think peaceful protesting and of course lobbying for a good cause is good.
But what these kids are doing is not that bad, in fact it scares certain powerful people because they realize.."Hey we are a
small minority controlling 99% of the population, if we push things too far..."


Originally posted by V Knid esq


Were they fuck. The Kennedys were Kennedys first and foremost - out to fulfill whatever twisted plans old man Joe had for them, to get paid and get laid. Perhaps Bobby had some idealism when it came to his gang-busting stuff, but look where that's got America...

OK I read too much James Ellroy.

Re: SPW's comments, you are confusing free trade (which is the dogma spouted by US politicians) and its total opposite protectionism (which is the reality of the USA's corrupt foreign policy). It's all very well saying "G8 bad, Africa good" and lob petrol bombs but what do you expect that to ACHIEVE? Are the major powers going to go "oh sorry, we were wrong", dismantle their power structures and fly off in their lizard ships, pausing only to sprinkle flower and hemp seeds all over Africa creating a new Eden? No. If you believe in revolution, that's another matter - but to the best of my knowledge the ketamine-gargling trustafarians who make up a fair amount of the british anti-globalisation movement are a long way from having the organisational skills to bring down their own trousers, let alone the government. However we can alter things by increment. Peaceful protest and lobbying DOES work - I haven't found that research I mentioned earlier. But first you need to know what you want. You need to know the specific pieces of legislation you are and are not in favour of. Why aren't people lobbying to have the universities and technical institutes in African countries supported and protected from government interference? Or to make sure that overseas development organisations aren't pressured by third world despots into recommending vanity projects like gigantic dams instead of intermediate technology projects which would allow isolated communities to run their own infrastructures? Or to heckle against the patenting of GM seeds, which keeps the farmers beholden to corporations and bans them from using their own produce as next year's seed stock (but no, of course any anti-capitalist knows that GM is baaaad, man)? Or look into ways that connectivity can help isolated communities, like the way that one of the few ways ordinary Ghanaians are thriving is by working out low-tech hacks for mobile phones, thus allowing small businesses to set up even in tiny villages?

Nah fuck that, let's just dress in macho black, bung some drugs down our necks and chuck rocks at police horses. That'll help our African brothers and sisters.

[spw]

One thing to keep in mind becoming to optimistic about lobbying is big money agenda's usually win.
I think your being too optimistic if you think the EU, some centralized financial power structure that is highly regulated will not fall
under the same influence.

"That'll help our African brothers and sisters."

That's what the UN (properly managed) is for.
Nations need to live within their own means and have mutually beneficial trading with different currency exchange.
Like the Fed power corrupts people.
Individualism, variety is strong point of the human race.
There is no ONE proper way of thinking.
If you have a standardized format that works best in industry fine.
I saw on the news Italian protesters want to go back to the lira because the euro sucks. haha...

[Hagbard]

spw you win the prize for the most boring posts ever. Captain Obvious strikes again.

[Ubik]

Originally posted by spw

I saw on the news Italian protesters want to go back to the lira because the euro sucks. haha...

the movement against euro in italy is moved by "lega lombarda" a racist party that actually stay in the government
they are very stupid! I think that italy without euro should stay in same economic situation of argentina :-)