be cool, stay in school

[piscaries]

to all you kiddies out there debating college: don't debate, just go. i spent the last 3 years after high school doing what i didn't want to do for a living, and now after i've realized that i hate what i'm doing, i tried to apply to school. but i just got my rejection letter today so that sets me back a bit in where i want to be. so avoid this situation, kiddies, or you'll hate yourself later.

p.s.
sorry to sound like your mom

[pille'ocheoni]

thanks for posting this thread piscaries,ive accually had a trying day today dealing with my teachers and my current grade in prg 111.which is programming logic.i hated it,the teacher was the same guy as in ferris bueller,saying bueller......bueller.......bue ller.well it looks like im going to flunk the class and it puts me way behind.see my intial goal was to get a degree designing websites and applying my previos degree in fine arts.ill i know is that i want to do art and music and thats it.this programming stuff is cool but very boring and i find myself having a lack of drive.anyways staying in school is very important but to add to the comment,the thing i find myself falling in to is being an average student,which id like to beleive i can do better than that.striving for higher goals and pushing yourself to be that "A" student is key.....this is a hard lesson i have learning but slowly improving on.it all kind of ties into becoming an adult.whether in school or at work or making music,average dosent cut it.but the main thing to be aware of is not pleasing other people but doing the best for yourself.slowly but surely through the hardest lessons im changing and this is good,and i welcome it:)

[aleks]

i am so happy that i stayed in school..thanks to my dad who kinda forced me too. now i can go to uni and don´t have to work! well, it is work, but different and i am living an easy life.

[pille'ocheoni]

whats uni?

[aleks]

university

[paranoiddancer]

so stay at university too?... ;)
i stayed at school and now i´m studying... noone forces me to go there...but every fucking testat i flunk i want to end this procedure and go to work like everyone...and getting money for my work!and when i come home from my work-i can play some records-cause i am free and have nothing to learn (all day)...so stay at university- to get the right job! ;) (hope so!)

[Daddys Girl]

I've just started my second year of Uni, and sometimes I really feel like that - just packing it in, and getting a job, but I realise if I did, I'd just be at a loss.

No one forced me to go to University, and no one is forcing me to stay. Although I can have a real stinker of a time there, I keep on going...guess I do wanna be there after all.

What gets me, is that I'm not actually sure what I want to do at the end of it all (hoping that it works out) - apparently, having a degree under your belt opens many doors - even if it isnt in the vocation destined to lead you to.
For some reason, almost every one I meet thinks I'm bound to become a Barrister (dont ask me why) - but I dont think thats where I'm going... still, might as well enjoy Uni and all it has along the way.....

D_G
;o)

[paranoiddancer]

i´m studying veterinary sciences..and there are still 4 of 5,5 years to go...sometimes hard to enjoy it, but after this most horrible course i won´t wake up in the morning hoping the following 8 hours on my job will end as fast as possible...every day!

[7875]

here i am, 27 years old, and i wish i had stayed in school. when i did go, i had my first onset of really bad depression and i couldn't focus on anything. i took class after class and then would end up dropping them when i got overwhelmed with the work. now, with years of working countless dead-end jobs i want to go back to school more than anything else. what did i get from working all those jobs when i could have been getting an education? many jobs in kitchens just waiting to get out so that i could get stoned. a few retail gigs in which i had to bury any self-respect and act as if "yes, i am very excited that you came in and shopped with us today." and all the while taking what little income i had and buying records as a means to escape my otherwise pointless existance.

work sucks the life out of you.
education breathes life into the mind.
i thought i could make it without going to school.
how wrong i was.

[piscaries]

@7875
it's not too late too go back. and after 23 or 24, the government is a little looser with grants that you don't have to pay back. i'm only 21 and i feel exactly the way you do, so now i'm going to work my ass off so that i can get somewhere that i want to be. otherwise all i'll be doing for the rest of my life is settling for seomthing else, and i'm not about to let that happen.

[LEFTHANDLOU]

I think that 7875 hit it right on the head.

Get it over with when you are young. It gets harder and harder to go back once you've been out for a while. Plus the older you get the more responsibilties and need's you acquire. YOU HAVE TO PAY RENT, AND EVERYTHING ELSE. Plus the older you get the more security($) you need.

JOBS SUCK ASS. It is repetitive and you deal with the same crowd everyday. At least in school you go to different classes and deal with new people. JOBs are repetitive and boring. THe truth is even if you get a good job after a few years its going to get to you.

Plus you can skip class once in a while but you skip work and you get the boot and can't pay your bills. STAY IN SCHOOL AS LONG AS POSSIBLE. it may seem pointless, but it's not.

@ Paranoidancer, Trust me you will get home most of the time so drained from work that playing records will be the last thing on your mind. Plus most likely most of that money you earn will go to paying bills. Learning some thing new, is at least new, its the same old shit day after day that you should worry about.

[aleks]

work sucks...and i can´t think of a good job right now i´d like to do. sooner or later i´ve gotta go working as well and i am sacred of that day:) i am not sure what to do after uni and what the stuff is good for now (jobwise), but it is better than empty hands... so i don´t worry now, because there is enough time to worry laterlol

[Sheridan]

I took 3 1/2 years of from school after I finished high school. I had a pretty cool and interesting job, but I got burnt out. then decided I wanted to get a job in the audio industry doing recording engineering. so I quit my job and went back to school. moved 1000 miles from all my friends and family. but here I am almost a year later. I've had some good times, and bad. but I graduate in 5 1/2 weeks and I can feel my spirit rising. I get to go back home and try and get a job which I am not too worried about. now is a new chapter in my life which I am a little nervous about. yet I am really excited because I have already taken the first steps in making my dreams come true. I know it sounds a little corny, but what you need to do is look around and ask yourself: am I happy? if no then ask: why not? because of _______. ok then figure out what you need to do in order to make it happen. listen when I started school again I had this guy who was in my first three classes who was in his late 40's to early 50's. he decided to make a career change. so he went back to school. my mom at 50 something went back to school to get another BS, just because she felt like it. it is never too late. you just have to want it. I don't like school that much. I love learning, but I don't learn the best in a 'school' environment. so I found the school that suited my needs. that is KEY! it is yourself you have to look out for. so do it. on that here are some words about jobs that kind of put it all into perspective for me.


Now we the American working population
Hate the fact that eight hours a day
Is wasted on chasing the dream of someone that isn't us
And we may not hate our jobs
But we hate jobs in general
That don't have to do with fighting our own causes
We the American working population
Hate the nine-to-five day-in day-out
When we'd rather be supporting ourselves
By being paid to perfect the pasttimes
That we have harbored based solely on the fact
That it makes us smile if it sounds dope

aesop rock

[Mui]

word...I've just finished my second exam for this semester...got 1 to go....then one year and I'm out....I've been at school for 4 years now doing engineering and every second week I feel like dropping out, but I stick with it cuz I assume the rewards will be worth it at the end.......good thing is, uni has cheap beer...you get student prices everywhere, bad thing is, lecturers are total wankers, all the ones I have are too busy caught up in their own world to care about what the students are doing....

[wheezer]

@mui

I think that's the same everywhere, a lot of the lecturers just give lectures coz they have to, not because they like it, or god forbid they're actually good at it...

[jukka]

i will finish my traineeship in may/june 2003 and i am so happy about....my working place sucks sometimes too much.but next year i will be back in school again then :)

[baba]

I don't like mondays - i wanna shoo ooo oooo ooot the whole day down...


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[grobelaar]

Man I so want to go to University - I couldn't handle it when I was a teenager, so i don't regret not going as I would have fucked it up...

But I feel totally trapped with my current jobs, and to be totally honest my main reason for wanting to do the school thing is so I can spend some time discovering what I'm a) good at, b) actually enjoy...

But also more recently and it not any one incident, but you do eventually realise that after 10 years of working, there are certain doors that only open once you have that piece of paper...

The sad things is seeing so many fucking muppets with absolutely no talent, or use talking absolute shite and getting paid for producing fuck all but more work - and they've got these degrees.

There was some guy on Radio 4 questioning the value of the recent years graduates, saying there was a lot of people who could talk a lot and do very little, and these people are setting up start up companies and getting corporate funding and they've got no actual capabilities other than bullshitting themselves a capital investment deal...

Articulate Incompetents he called them... I think the company I work for may be full of 'em... :D ;)

[invisibleplanet]

i don't have a career in the computer industry anymore, since becoming a full-time parent-person, but i don't want to go back into that worlds again - i think i may retrain as a teacher......

[baba]

don't do that (teacher training) Invisible Planet - its horrible - i 've had a long university education and am currently doing a pgce for further education.
I've cried real tears 3 times this week .
the students are great but the workload is massive , not always very interesting and incredibly stressful.
Maybe - im going through some 'rite of passage' thing or maybe I don't really want to be a teacher - whatever -tis something one should think about carefully before undertaking...good luck tho if you decide to do it

[Gameboy]

uni is cool although mondays are shit....!!!!! 9 months to go :)

[Sheridan]

if there is one thing the world needs more of is good teachers. granted they get paid shit (at least in the states), but without teachers it kind of defeats the purpose of education. someone has to be willing to share the info. cat I say do it if you really feel it. true the work load might be huge, but honestly, what college course do you take for any proffesion doesn't have a lot of work involved?? the school I go to has long hours at class, some of which start at 1 or 5 in the morning!! but this is what I want to do, so I do it. sometimes you have to make sacrifices to get where you want to go. adventures.

[invisibleplanet]

Originally posted by baba
don't do that (teacher training) Invisible Planet - its horrible - i 've had a long university education and am currently doing a pgce for further education.
I've cried real tears 3 times this week .
the students are great but the workload is massive , not always very interesting and incredibly stressful.
Maybe - im going through some 'rite of passage' thing or maybe I don't really want to be a teacher - whatever -tis something one should think about carefully before undertaking...good luck tho if you decide to do it

hi baba
i think it is a 'rite of passage' for u, many of my freinds have completed their teacher training now, and cry real tears every now and again, for the children & parents & the system they have to work within, now they are at 'the front line' It does get easier, once u are 'in place' and as my friend's experience grew from being 'new' over 2 years, she doesn't cry so often for herself, and only cries now for the plight of the children. SO much of teaching is NOT what they are teaching u now, and your future colleagues will be a library of experience for u to silently learn from - don't give up!

but i thought to myself, that all my work experience ought not to be wasted, and it could be consolidated and expressed to another generation by teaching..probably i would teach IT to 11-19 year olds, as this would tie in my past to my potential future.
However, this will all be much more difficult given i have family responsibilities now, and have become used to working to my own timetable since becoming a parent. Our UK Government offers little help to adults wishing to retrain in this way, and I would have to borrow the money to feed me & my family whilst retraining. A truly scary prospect as an adult!