the Orbit

[048]

16.11.02
with very special guests
BEN SIMS (Theory, Hardgroove)
CHRIS LIEBING (Clr recs)
+ residents
MARK TURNER, JOHN BERRY, DARREN BROOKE

the Orbit
@the Afterdark club, Morley, Leeds.
http://www.orbit48.com

[invisibleplanet]

I've stayed 'at home' listening to Sim's tracks, and the chance to see him live at the Orbit will be great for me! I never heard Liebing DJ bevor, but I heard from other girlfriends in Germany, that he is very danceable to.

The Orbit is 'my' local tekno club, and myself & my fellow tekno-loving girlfriends go here as often as we can for a full tek-workout on the dancefloor.

I find this venue superb - and here's why I like it:
there's coffee in the coffee bar *njami*,
sensitive bouncers, who always see women to their taxi-cabs, a warm atmosphere from fellow tek-heads
the Visuals are always totally distracting *g ,
and from the two tiers of balconies, u have an excellent view of the dj and decks (for those chin scratchers out there).
and right at the end NO-ONE wants to leave! it seems that we haven't had enough, and always leave wanting more....

I'm going to be there on 16th Nov, with a small girly posse. Perhaps we will see us there? :!

[jukka]

@invisibleplanet:
yeah, ben sims is definately worth checkin' out.....nice skills/great mixing.......also good to have a place where you can watch him while mixing :)
but liebing isn't anything special.....just bombing da floor with mostly hard ('n' boring) 4/4 techno tracks.

huh.....girly attack, eh !!!! :D lol

[invisibleplanet]

Originally posted by jukka
@invisibleplanet:
yeah, ben sims is definately worth checkin' out.....nice skills/great mixing.......also good to have a place where you can watch him while mixing :)
....

huh.....girly attack, eh !!!! :D lol

jo! girly tek-attak
lol

mostly - intelligent tek students from Leeds University, and full-on tekno lovers, like myself
;)

may take fotos when next there, if the girls will let me, considering the sweat which pours off us on the dance-arena
:)

[Sheridan]

Originally posted by invisibleplanet

may take fotos when next there, if the girls will let me, considering the sweat which pours off us on the dance-arena


that sounds hot!!;)

[Gameboy]

@48 looking forward to Automatic@orbit in the new year!!

[invisibleplanet]

Originally posted by Gameboy
@48 looking forward to Automatic@orbit in the new year!!

please tell us more!

isn't automatic managed by Ibrahim Alfa?

[jukka]

yup automatic recs is from ibi.....it was also he who posted >>>gameboy lol

[invisibleplanet]

i so want to hear/see Ibrahim Alfa live.
Ich würde auf meinen Knien für dies gehen, aber Dank Gott or war es 'Papa', ich brauche nicht zu *hrhr

check this livemix (http://www.neueheimat.de/livemix/20021012/mix.asx) stream using windows media player from 12.Oct.02 at Neue Heimat (http://www.neueheimat.de)

[jukka]

ja unsichtbarer planet, den liveact solltest du nicht verpassen denn er ist wirklich gut :)

saw him three or four times now and it was allways different and allways cool !

[aleks]

if he manages to stay soberlol

[invisibleplanet]

Anyway, ich werde jetzt auf meinen Knien gehen, und frage '048' für meiner lieblings Techno Musiker und DJ, Cristian Vogel. Bitte!

tr. i will now go on my knees, and ask 048 for my favourite Techno musician and DJ...

when he is free and willing of course ;)

Cristian Vogel
live vom Neue Heimat 05. Oktober 2002
livemix (http://www.neueheimat.de/livemix/20021005/mix.asx)

I hear he has not played @Orbit for 7-8 years!

[Weishaupt]

Liebing, frankfurt dj of the 2nd generation..........
He plays synthetic sounds for the synthetic development..........

[invisibleplanet]

i don't understand what u mean by second generation dj, weishaupt!

also - we aren't over-exposed to Liebing here.

nevertheless, i like to make my own mind up about a dj/producer, and am very much looking forward to going to Orbit on Saturday for Sims/Liebing, and then on to a free party courtesy of one comfy Dave Sofa & Company.

[Weishaupt]

hm....what is so difficult to understand............
hes the part of the 2nd generation dj´s fom frankfurt like tony klitoris, frank lorberbaum usw................

[Sheridan]

who were the first generation producers and djs then??

[Weishaupt]

väth, spoon, feos, talla, dag, wagenknecht............

[Loz]

Originally posted by Sheridan
who were the first generation producers and djs then??

Bruno Brooks?

[jukka]

Originally posted by Weishaupt
hm....what is so difficult to understand............
hes the part of the 2nd generation dj´s fom frankfurt like tony klitoris, frank lorberbaum usw................
HAHAHHAHAA.......

btw. didn't liebing use to be a disco (playing in big discos) dj who play the stuff they tell him to play ???

@loz: bruno brooks ?

[invisibleplanet]

Originally posted by jukka

HAHAHHAHAA.......

btw. didn't liebing use to be a disco (playing in big discos) dj who play the stuff they tell him to play ???

@loz: bruno brooks ?

bruno brooks - afaik - a dj - also on radio1
don't care much for this pigeonholing though *g
it's either musik i like, or musik i don't like to hear/dance to

as for 1st or 2nd generation dj's - i have never heard anyone use this critical terminology before...does it refer to time/age? is this an exclusively german term??

[Weishaupt]

its not critical.................just the truth..................

[invisibleplanet]

i don't understand u- i need more explanation, please.
ich verstehe dich nicht - ich brauche mehr Erklärung, bitte!

[Weishaupt]

väth, spoon, feos, talla, dag, wagenknecht............
these guys are the first generation of frankfurt djs who growes up on the people and on the "scene".....................

if techno "starts" in germany, these guys represented it.............

liebing is part of the 2nd generation.................... ..

any questions?

[Sheridan]

1st generation and 2nd generation is the same of 1st or 2nd wave of artists. think of detroit: people like juan atkins, kevin saunderson, derrick may are all considered first wave/ generation detroit artists. they were the first to come out of there. then people like jeff mills, mike banks, claude young, stacey pullen are all considered second wave/ generation detroit artists. coming out a bit after the first.

[Weishaupt]

right.

[invisibleplanet]

16th November 2002
<img src="http://www.invisibleplanet.pwp.blueyo nder.co.uk/clubs/the_orbit_48/decks_crowd2_.jpg" width="640" height="480" alt="the orbit crowd a-baying for the dj.....">

Chris Liebing
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Ben Sims
<img src="http://www.invisibleplanet.pwp.blueyo nder.co.uk/clubs/the_orbit_48/bensims01_.jpg" width="640" height="480" alt="Ben Sims">

[invisibleplanet]

2nd November 2002
Sven Väth
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Billy Nasty
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Hot Hot Hot Crowd
<img src="http://www.invisibleplanet.pwp.blueyo nder.co.uk/clubs/the_orbit_48/crowd_red_.jpg" width="640" height="480" alt="hot crowd">

[Weishaupt]

???????????

[Sheridan]

ben cut his hair. first thing I noticed.
how did you get those pictures cat?
were you on the guest list??:)

[Tomoki]

I am remembering Ben also with long hair (a plait?). But this is two years back.
How was it music wise?

[048]

Ben has been sans pony tail etc. for 18 months now - and I (the promoter of the club) took the pictures for our website. I e-mailed them to invisibleplanet when she told me she was unable to come to the Sims+Liebing night due to her being ill.

[invisibleplanet]

²sheridan i couldn't go to the last two Orbits (pics above) and
unfortunately i missed Sims/Liebing, due to a very unpleasant head-cold, and for Väth/Nasty I was in Nottingham for Hawkins/Benavente.
Someone who works there, kindly sent those excellent fotos to me, when he heard that I couldn't make it to Sims/Liebing because of my head-cold.
Another good friend who did go, foned me next day, saying "where were u? u missed a corker! the place was packed! Liebing played for 3 hrs! 3 HOURS! He was so funky. u should have brought your germs..i was looking for u everywhere..." and so on.
NO i'm not on the guest list *lol*

[actionjetzon]

Liebing was FUNKY ???

you mean Chris Liebing?

[Weishaupt]

hehehe.ort.............

[invisibleplanet]

my friend thinks many things are funky.
he thinks i'm funky. he thinks you're funky. lol
he wasn't trying to be a serious music critic when he said that to me!

[Weishaupt]

this have nothing to do with a serious music critic.........

[actionjetzon]

i think i have to change my avantar again...

[Weishaupt]

go on................schwupp

[actionjetzon]

done 8-()

[Weishaupt]

yeahhhhhhhh

youre fucking right!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Weishaupt]

THIS IS NOT A TECHNO FORUM!!!

[Weishaupt]

.sorry......................im angry!!!

[actionjetzon]

cool down mate...all is fine, life is good!:)

[invisibleplanet]

by all accunts, Liebing played a magnificent set, of hard, funky techno, with booming basslines, and some superbly placed scratching. The whole crowd at the orbit were filled with pleasure and showed their appreciation by dancing uncontrollably, with people dancing anywhere they could find a space. the dj's were dancing, the crowd were dancing, and even the invisible chap who is often behind the visuals was dancing *gggg*
there wasn't a dry body in the house

and to quote my friend "who gives a fuck about making a genre classification! it's electronic music that makes u wanna shake your booty for hours...the chin strokers should learn how to fucking dance!"

nice one Nate ;)

[wheezer]

of course I don't know what and how liebing played there, but last time I saw/heard him (this november) he managed to get me to leave the party, which was a first for me in all these years...

[gunjack]

http://www.paxahau.com/sounds/2002/coctober/10-24-02_chrisliebing_theworks.ram

first time i ever heard a set by the dude just now on paxahau : X

[actionjetzon]

...!
thats what i imaging about chris liebing...he´s going to play in Hannover next weekend, and i won´t go.
But maybee he plays good stuff at orbit...who knows

[invisibleplanet]

cheers gunjack!

however, my real player (free) won't play it *grml*

also actionjetzon, a poem for u...

imagine nothing
self-fulfilling prophecy
nothing comes to u

perhaps u young men are missing out on the cultural value which dancing serves...courtship ritual and wordless communication.

anyone read any gurdjeff?

[Weishaupt]

thats to much for me..............

maybe i should go back to the beginn button*g

peace and respect for everyone............


i need a board break......................... .........

[gunjack]

liebing sux.:-p

[wheezer]

@ip

I really do like dancing, but Liebings set I heard was just fucking boring & monotonous, the kind of music that leads me to hard drugs & alcohol not hard dancing...

[jukka]

yeah, i also left tresor (not the party just the cellar) when he started to play straight after dj rolando........booooring bombing.

[actionjetzon]

there ya go ip
...what a nice poem, i´m touched


His records are just boring...his sound is boring...he´s the originator off the frowned on word "Schranz"

i heared hes a very good dj....respect, but that was it

[Irrungenwirrungen]

I have seen Liebing at Atomic Jam in Birmingham & to be honest he is a lovely,friendly bloke, but I found his music extremely monotonous. I suppose he had it quite hard because he was following on from Ben Sims or Dave *Lark*.

[wheezer]

yeh I mean his technique was flawless when I heard him, but that may well have actually been a problem in this case for my ears, because since his records were all the same kind of bland thumping stuff, the only thing that could've brought some spice into it for me would've been some more interesting tricks, some beat doubling etc., but imho even that was predictable with him, he just did the same quick off-beat double over and over and over again with different rekkids.

I know a lot of people that seem to think that perfect mixing & technique are crucial, but Liebing is just a case in point for the opposite actually being true imho...

Aside from all that, he does seem like a nice enough guy, but that's not really of any importance.... it's the muzak that counts :)