//where are we going next?

[pille'ocheoni]

whats your opinion on where electronic music is going?is it perdictable?if your writing tunes,whats the fresh flavor your adding?i personally think a new wave of ambient is coming around,glitch is definetly staying and it not that boring yet but getting more and more popular.so where's it going?and who's on the fore-front.

[tsr_tomas]

i think we are going to be using more and more of laptop live-sets and do more musik with out any genre... like the japanese people do. they only talk about there music and they refuse to put there music in any specific genre even thou sometimes you can here it´s dnb or strange/crazy happy music =)

i will probably think diffrent tomorrow, but thats tomorrow =)

[gunjack]

Originally posted by tsr_tomas
[B]...like the japanese people do. they only talk about there music and they refuse to put there music in any specific genre even thou sometimes you can here it´s dnb or strange/crazy happy music...


what are you talking about?

[Sheridan]

electronic music and music in general is dying. there will come a time when music as a whole will colapse in on itself and everyone will stop listening. that will precede a century of silence, where we will learn to listen to ourselves and our instincts. once we relearn how to listen we will start from ground zero and begin to make music again. here is where the next level of inovation will start.

[piscaries]

i doubt that music will cease. music has been a base of all cultures pretty much forever, even if the music consisted only of one drum or one voice. it's just human nature. i think that's why modern music is become less widely accepted: because it is becoming less human. the energy may still be there in the music, but the soul is slowly creeping away. i know i've personally been trying to get back to more natural sounds. i've picked up congas and i'm playing with some friends with acoustic instruments, and i'm trying not to use a sequencer too much anymore, and instead just use my multitrack to record each part seperately and play it all (if i can) by hand to give it that human imperfection. it feels much more organic as a final product, even if it is electronic music. but as for the overall direction of music, who knows? it all depends on who can afford the best marketing plan, like the boy bands and britney spears. that is, at least, for those who haven't developed the ability to chose what kind of music that they really like. for those of us who really do enjoy and understand music, the next thing is always unpredictable.

[Sheridan]

yeah I wasn't being 100% serious. only partly, or am I?? :illin:
I do like th idea of sequencing stuff by hand. I have always liked techno records that weren't totally synced. it does give it a bit of natural human touch to it. like if an actual drummer was playing.

[pille'ocheoni]

sheridan i totally see where your coming from,silence can be a beautiful thing,but piscaries is right,in one out of two ways in my opinion.yes music will never completelly die,and i think it is getting more less personal and more synthetic,but.......the side of synthetic that captures a perspective of nature is awsome.i think there is so much more "field music" or noise to make,i kind of think about it in the same ways of mathematics.the more synthetic we get and grandeious with are math explanations,the more we see that nature too is equally intwined with the "matrix" of this mathematic exsitance.for not all can be explaned with math,and that too, needs to be expresed.thats why i said ambient might take hold for peace of mind issues,minimal might make a grand comback,its allready been here,but maybe a global effect.theres a sense of security everyone wants and more conscience music maybe the answer.

[piscaries]

another thing i can see more of in the future is more vocals. that seems to be the biggest thing lacking in the electronic world. but its really hard to put vocals into glitchy/field music. and no offense to you laptop people who make beautiful music, i don't want to go to shows where i watch you play with your computer. i think human/emotional interaction is key in live performances. i've never left a laptop set feeling fulfilled... except maybe for bogdan raczynski but that was just cause he yells and jumps and really gets into his stuff. sorry to wander OT on all this.

[pille'ocheoni]

vocals yes!i too am putting more of a vocal spin on my projects.i think i lets out so much for me and i suppose others too.i can only amagine what jamie lets out.

[7875]

possibly multitracked layers of human voice (not using sequencer or sampling) and just delivered from the performer to the microphone. almost like acapella techno. ever come up with a sound that you couldnt duplicate with a synth, but wanted to? techno in structure but not in instrumentation.
i hope that noise/field recording gets more recognition. the instantaneous music around us that exists only in that moment and never again. using these noises as sound palettes and then constructing music from it, i hope to hear more of that.
as far as popular music goes, i think it will get more sexually explicit. the movie industry seems to just recycle old ideas, why wouldn't pop music do that. in movies they just take an old, familiar idea and make a new production out of it. for instance with that remix of Elvis, where they took his vocal track, timestretched it fit in with new music and hence they have a new version. i think that will become more and more popular, especially with artists who are dead. i try and avoid pop music as much as i avoid eating dairy or candy. its bad for you and rots your teeth. why waste this short life exposing yourself to shitty pop tunes when you can maybe go and buy something that you've never heard before.

also, i hope to hear more techno made with a human feel behind it. less of the Autechre precision sequencing and more of using the mixing board as an instrument and doing everything in real time.

[pille'ocheoni]

fellow oregonian,you said it............

[wheezer]

@7875

as I understand it, the track "mouth" by iz & diz on classic was produced entirely using voice samples of iz/diz, just messed around with - fun idea, but bearing in mind that it's already been done and that peeps like herbert basically do this kinda stuff 24/7, it seems to me more like that's where some form of electronic music is already at, not where it's going...

[marcel]

the future. no time like the future

i think its better to do it then to analyse.
freak on!

[deccard]

i talked about that with a friend some time ago and a theory was
that music will just go on and on as usual cause it´s a need(trends come and go) but from the view of escapism i must say playing computer games or virtual worlds will have a bigger impact on our children than music.
the kids don´t collect records at the age of 6 but games...

the glitches stuff is just a trend cause only a view were able to do it and now with all the progs and cheap hardware everyone can do it. the whole electronic stuff. playing a guitar will be more interesting cause of the physical experience people miss by makin music only with a mouse.
body and mind work together...

hm but sheridan is right. at the end all will be noise/chaos and after that silence till god farts again.

[praecox]

my humble opinion

short term: Minimal House And Minimal Techno take over where electro stopped. Akufen becomes the new miss kittin ... (hehehe like the idea ! )
Live will be more and more 'on the fly' like e.g. Jamie Lidell or Matmos. Just laptop will get difficult cause some people create an image like e.g. 'the Prince (the artist formaly know as ..) of Laptop', entertainment will get a big place.
Also the rise of local 'laptop enclaves' and battles between the groups. a bit like virtual breakdancing.
no ten million copies for Moby his last album, instead 5 million downloads ...

Mid term: The first 3/4 Britney popsong!!! what a milestone in top-ten history ...
The rise of personal brainwave music. highly individual music made by analysing your brainwaves and turning it into music. some people will get famous for their 'beautifull mind'. Hardware will become part of our body. Like twerk states in some manifesto 'Eventually I will become the machine that I'm using'

Long term: Music will become undistiguishable from our environment. It will become part and we will never be able to tell if its there or not cause we will not have words for it. We will exist mostly virtual and bodies are no longer needed to exists. also the first A.I. comes to live and it will claim amnesty and 'ai-rights' similar to the human rights ...
ok ok that last bit was OT