quitting smoking

[M H]

on day 3 now, not feeling too bad.. any tips?

[Weishaupt]

sport...

[Phil]

dont go to the pub for yonks. And do some real exercise, go for a 5 mile run. Do loads of fitness. im well on the fitness buzz at the momment, havnt had a fag in bout a year. fags are for cunts, just remembere that

[M H]

Originally posted by Katie
fags are for cunts, just remembere that
Thanks, I'll keep that thought in the forefront of my mind :)

[M H]

yeah, sport is a good one, I'm going swimming today anyway I think, and I need to get my skateboard sent over, weather is nice here now.. prime motivation at the moment though is the horrible cough I've had for the past few weeks, one thought of that everytime I want a ciggy had been enough to keep it at bay.. have been chewing a lot of chewing gum though which I'm not sure is such a good thing....

[JonnySpeed]

replace each fag with fresh fruit and lots of water helps me

[Weishaupt]

Originally posted by M H
yeah, sport is a good one, I'm going swimming today anyway I think, and I need to get my skateboard sent over, weather is nice here now.. prime motivation at the moment though is the horrible cough I've had for the past few weeks, one thought of that everytime I want a ciggy had been enough to keep it at bay.. have been chewing a lot of chewing gum though which I'm not sure is such a good thing....

you are on the way...its important to get in touch with yourself in this lil break of the days where you smoked..

ask yoursself "when did a smoke at the day?...and wich situations?.."

make a list.....if you need a cig...write it down and collect it in a box
at the end of the day you can see what you win...that helps!!

good luck!

[penciLneck]

good plan. maybe a load of us from the board can all quit at the same time, and help eachother through the difficult times. I smoke like a chimney and don't get much pleasure from it. deffo time to stop.

[emef]

i started smoking in february... i like it and now i'm losing weight BONUS

[Weishaupt]

huh?

how many weight?

maybe i should start to smoke too...

[M H]

Originally posted by emef
i like it and now i'm losing weight BONUS

weell, that is one plus point, but you're also increasing the risk of heart disease.. try and balance it with some exercise man...
Not missing ciggys at all, and means I can be really smug with youngman when he's run out...

[penciLneck]

bear in mind you are only on day three. wait until you have a pint of beer in front of you. and what about the green?

[dirtyho]

I have given up smoking tobacco and am only smoking pipes at the moment. It is good - I am not smoking half as much weed as I'm not habitually taking and rolling spliffs. I feel much less monged when I do smoke weed and still able to do stuff - which I couldn't after a spliff. I can also get up in the morning as I'm not having a spliff before bedtime - so now I get up and do exercise.

[emef]

Originally posted by M H


weell, that is one plus point, but you're also increasing the risk of heart disease.. try and balance it with some exercise man...
Not missing ciggys at all, and means I can be really smug with youngman when he's run out...

its partially your fault mark ;) do you remember giving me a ciggie at a gig last year when i was pissed?
well i really enjoyed it and during a stressful period in feb i got meself a pack and took it from there.
i've never felt so sophisticated :D

[M H]

Originally posted by penciLneck
bear in mind you are only on day three. wait until you have a pint of beer in front of you. and what about the green?

Had a bottle of red wine with a friend on day one, they chain smoked in front of me all night and I was fine...
and I've had enough of the green also, this is not one of those "but it's ok to smoke bifter" giving up things, that's just kidding yourself, this is nicotine addiction begone! which means no patches, nicotine gum anything like that.. I don't understand nicotine patches, they just keep you addicted to nicotine, I want proper detox....
I 'm getting odd cravings now and then, and then I cough which reminds me why I'm doing this, if the craving gets really bad and I need something to do I'll have a chewing gum, or find something constructive to do.. I'm actually getting loads of stuff done and my room is tidy for once so it's all good... AND I'm on a curbing my drinking plot also, which isn't so hard now I'm outside the "Binge drinking" zone (I.e. the UK)
that's one thing I noticed since moving here, when I'm back in england it's like with my mates, any excuse for a pint which I really don't understand as the beer in UK tastes fucking awfull IMHO

[M H]

Originally posted by emef


its partially your fault mark ;) do you remember giving me a ciggie at a gig last year when i was pissed?
well i really enjoyed it and during a stressful period in feb i got meself a pack and took it from there.
i've never felt so sophisticated :D
WHOOPS!
oh dear, feel really bad now....

[penciLneck]

fair play. looks like your well on the way and have the right approach. I'm going to have to sort myself out too. apparently it only takes a year to clean out your lungs of all that gunk, and by then I bet you feel that good that starting again isn't that attractive. good luck!

[Phil]

replace fags with slices of carrots, cus they look like fags if u cut them well and better for u arnt they.... u can pretend its a fag.

[Ava]

chewing on liquorice sticks can give you a replacement for the 'something to do' aspect of it. got to be proper liquorice though, not the sweet version, just a stick from the liquorice tree or whatever it is

[versis]

geez, did our little conversation at triebwerk have such an impact on you mark? :)
glad to hear that, though i can't give you any tips on that topic.. haven't been addicted too much...

[M H]

Originally posted by versis
geez, did our little conversation at triebwerk have such an impact on you mark? :)
glad to hear that, though i can't give you any tips on that topic.. haven't been addicted too much...

hehe, yeah maybe, plus a weekend with subhead is probably enough to make you want to give up everything, excess is not a strong enough word after a few nights with them, felt like I was dying by monday.. much better now though...

[Phil]

eat a chipstick, they look like fags....

[M H]

Thanks phil, but I don't really need anything that reminds me of cigarettes... I think I'm fine with the obvious things, after 3 days I already worked out the basic things i need to do to stop me smoking, and have already been through a few stressfull moments, I just need to know really from someone who has actually been through it, how long before the cravings stop completely...
what is it with internet forums, in eagerness to type people state the bleedin obvious....

[M H]

@versis: you got pics from the weekend BTW?

[cut out]

Originally posted by M H
Thanks phil, but I don't really need anything that reminds me of cigarettes... I think I'm fine with the obvious things, after 3 days I already worked out the basic things i need to do to stop me smoking, and have already been through a few stressfull moments, I just need to know really from someone who has actually been through it, how long before the cravings stop completely...
what is it with internet forums, in eagerness to type people state the bleedin obvious....

the cravings don't stop... just get less frequent so i've 'eard.

[Phil]

ok, then, get a punch bag. ive just got one and it makes you well fit..and gives u a hard punch (handy if someone started on yous_)

[Jeniffer Mills]

Gigging will be the challenge.....

[guignol dangereux]

Originally posted by M H
... I just need to know really from someone who has actually been through it, how long before the cravings stop completely...


15 days, but it becomes milder after the first 6-7 days.
i've quit a year ago.

[versis]

Originally posted by M H
@versis: you got pics from the weekend BTW?
there are a few on tekknoforum - check this (http://www.tekknoforum.de/forum/viewtopic.php?t=13165&highlight=)

[M H]

yeah I saw those, I meant the one of me lying on you lot...

[bitch one]

i hit seven years in a week's time

for me, the first week was quite easy, becuase you're all psyched up and feeling pleased with yourself.. after a week the cravings got quite bad, i was having to stop myself from shouting at grannies in the shops etc. they reached their peak about 3 weeks, then tailed off pretty quickly.

[roberta_hood]

Originally posted by M H


hehe, yeah maybe, plus a weekend with subhead is probably enough to make you want to give up everything, excess is not a strong enough word after a few nights with them, felt like I was dying by monday.. much better now though...

oh yes, you're right, mark : )

[M H]

that's not to say I didn't have a really great time, it was great, just too much smoking and beer drinking.. steered clear of the jager

[Basic 2: The Revenge]

Originally posted by M H


Had a bottle of red wine with a friend on day one, they chain smoked in front of me all night and I was fine...
and I've had enough of the green also, this is not one of those "but it's ok to smoke bifter" giving up things, that's just kidding yourself, this is nicotine addiction begone! which means no patches, nicotine gum anything like that.. I don't understand nicotine patches, they just keep you addicted to nicotine, I want proper detox....


I gave up smoking at the end of January, and I would now consider myself a smoker who doesn't smoke. I have smoked othe ol' jazz fags here and there at the weekend, but it hasn't made me want to go back smoking 20 cigarettes-a-day like I was.

I smoked a cigarette on saturday night when I was out and a little footloose and fancyfree, but I soon came round to the taste and realised why I had quit in the first place. So basically, I'm in a position now that I have just had a strong word with myself and I wont go back to smoking cigarettes, even having one reinforced why i gave up rather than making me want another. I found this reassuring.

[M H]

Originally posted by Basic 2: The Revenge

I smoked a cigarette on saturday night when I was out and a little footloose and fancyfree, but I soon came round to the taste and realised why I had quit in the first place. So basically, I'm in a position now that I have just had a strong word with myself and I wont go back to smoking cigarettes, even having one reinforced why i gave up rather than making me want another. I found this reassuring.

that sounds promising..
am staying off the jazz fags for the time being, as I need to kick the nicotine habit, and even if I do it sans tabac, I'm thinking it isn't breaking the ritual, one just replaces the other I think...

[bitch one]

hey, if you still fancy the bifta, just do it american style...it's more fun and more covert for the clubs too.

[bitch one]

oh - read the post, stupid. yes, i've noticed they do bring back the fag craving a bit.

[penciLneck]

yes the old hand to mouth habit is reportly the hardest thing to break. you can get little plastic cigarette dummies with a nicotine hit in as well. seems a bit pointless though really.

[Paddy]

must quit smokin. i went out last night, got pissed and smoked loads of
rollies. now my lungs feel like the're about to implode.

[Basic 2: The Revenge]

Originally posted by M H


that sounds promising..
am staying off the jazz fags for the time being, as I need to kick the nicotine habit, and even if I do it sans tabac, I'm thinking it isn't breaking the ritual, one just replaces the other I think...

The nicotine habit is easier to break than the daily routine habit. It was for me anyway. You know that way when you feel you should be having a cig break or suchlike. I guess it is just a case of occupying yourself. Nicotine cravings should cease conpletely after three weeks.

As for the other weed, I guess I only have a bit at the weekends, so smoking it during the week was a no-no even when I was smoking cigarettes. I guess that helped prevent me blurring the lines i.e. replacing one with the other.

[Sheridan]

I quit smoking last august. I had tried many times before, but then I just got to a point where I really wanted to stop, so I did. the fourth and fifth day were the hardest craving wise. after that it got a bit easier. like people were saying, it should take 2-3 weeks for the physical cravings to subside as that is how long it takes for the nicotine to get out of your system. depending of course on how much you smoke and the strength of your cigs. chewing gum is fine to help with the cravings. I myself started to eat loads of chips when I quit. I kept a big bag by desk at work, so every time I got a craving I would just grab a little bundle of chips and keep them on a napkin on my desk to munch on. after about a week and half I didn't need the chips anymore. just be aware of yourself, and DON"T GET COCKY! that is what got me into trouble in the past. I'd be up to like day 8-9 and I'd think to myself, 'oh, I've made it this far, I can have one smoke and be fine'. that's how you fall back into it. anyway, I was smoke free from august up until the holidays, as they are pretty stressful for me, plus with all the parties and such. so after some indulging here and there and then due to my negative reactions to some other stresses, I am now back to smoking. more than what I was when I quit. I am up to about a pack a day (20). I know I need to quit again, but I need to let my smoking even it self out and then psyche myself up again. so keep it up M H! it is well worth the pain you are in now, as it is only temporary.

and emef! tsk, tsk. stop now. it will be a lot easier for you to quit now then in say 5 years time. it really isn't worth it to keep on it!

[Tec]

I'm off for a fag with a dbl espressso..

[penciLneck]

I've prolly smoked 10 since this thread started. ouch.

[Sheridan]

yeah, I just got back from another smoke break.
I'm running on 6 hours sleep in two days (hooray for insomnia).
so I think today may be a heavy one.

[M H]

you should have heard my cough, Roberta and goinz can testify, they had to put up with it all the way back froim dresden at the weekend, and that is my main motivation, the coughing, the horrible black shit coming out of my lungs every day and night, and on top of that the fact I used to get asthmatic bronchitus every year as a kid, and I think I have been relapsing every year and passing it off as "Just a cough".. I was visiting someone 5 storys up the other day, and almost had to stop half way up due to my breathing... with motivation like that I don't think I'll be smoking again in a hurry, I felt like I was dying slowly, it was really wrecking my quality of life, and that's what I think about every time I gety a craving... Thanks for the advice and words of support everyone, really appreciate it, I really feel I'm going to do it though, and I'm really going to appreciate it in a few months time.. I'm looking at it this way, ok, it may be stressfull sometimes, but not as stressfull as a collapsed lung or other serious problem with my lungs, I really though I was going to end up in hospital if I didn't stop.. now that's scary...

[Hagbard]

Gotta say I really liked the smokeless atmosphere in the bars and clubs in new york, I didn't feel like smoking a fag once, which disproves the idea I had that it was booze that made me want to smoke, bullshit.. it's smoke! Was impressed that it adds an extra level of control to club nights.. controlling how they smell too...

I also like the fact I didn't stink the next day and was amazed when I realised I could still wear clothes the next day that I had worn out! (still I know this doesn't apply to you regular smokers cos y'all stink all the time anyway ;) )

[bitch one]

hey mark - that's the best thing about stopping, getting rid of the mucus. means you don't have nearly such a bad time when u got a cold. and waking up in the morning able to speak. great!

[Paddy]

Originally posted by Steev
Gotta say I really liked the smokeless atmosphere in the bars and clubs in new york

we'll have that up here soon, and i'm lookin forward to it. i reckon it'll make stoppping a hell of a lot easier, so i'm really lookin forward to it.

[Phil]

theme - Dogtanian And The Muskahounds...lisyten to that and it will help, listen to it when u sleep

[Tec]

Listen to Lenny Dee instead

[Sheridan]

bang bang bang walk hand in hand with puff puff puff.

[Lady E]

im one of those social smokers so i dont wake up hacking or drowning in mucus, dont have a cough and dont stink. i dont notice any ill effects actually but im sure they are all going on inside the old lungs. i spend about £6 a month on tobacco if that.

im going to a girlfriend's house for dinner tonight and i will smoke about 5 rollies i reckon.

im going to give up when i am pregnant. no need until then.

but good luck mark, you were a serious smoker so you needed to stop by the sounds of things.

emef - lovely lovely lovely to see you man! but starting smoking at this late stage, well on one level it is to be admired. and on another, must be nipped firmly in the bud!

[pongoid]

All this talk makes me wat to roll one up, and I haven't had one since last Friday.

[M H]

Originally posted by emma

but good luck mark, you were a serious smoker so you needed to stop by the sounds of things.


Nice one emma, yeah I was kind of serious in one sense, but I never really smoked loads, just had a really bad cough all the time, and chainsmoked when I was drinking,(which was most of the time you saw me out and about) It's going ok though, I was just in a bar for a bit drinking beer and round at a mates, people smoking all around me and to be honest, didn't feel tempted once, if I got any kind of craving I just pop a (nicotine free) chewing gum in my mouth unt alles gut...

[Sheridan]

you know what is strange. all the times I tried to quit I would always have my 'last' cigarette and it would never work. I'd end up bumming a smoke off someone or I'd go and buy a pack. the last day I smoked in august was on a saturday. I got a call from one of my friends and I met up with him to have an 'afternoon' beer. well that 'afternoon' beer turned into about 12-13 pints over the course of the day and night. I must have smoked a pack and a half easy. the next day I couldn't even bother with a smoke. I still had half a pack sitting on my desk in my room. which is where they sat. so everyday when I woke up and when I came home from work I'd see that pack chilling on my desk. but I never lit up. I'd go out drinking with friends who smoked and I'd want one so bad! a few times I'd take one from my friends and just put it right in front of me and it would sit there for hours. but I never smoked it. other times I'd come home and grab my half pack and just smell them to try and calm me down. funny thing was that I was tempting myself all the time and yet I was always able to refuse it. it was the only way I could quit. starting back smoking this year has left me feeling so disapointed in myself. I just got to get my head straight and go through all the pain again.

[Will O The Wisp]

good luck with your quitting Mark

[M H]

Originally posted by Sheridan
you know what is strange. all the times I tried to quit I would always have my 'last' cigarette and it would never work. I'd end up bumming a smoke off someone or I'd go and buy a pack. the last day I smoked in august was on a saturday. I got a call from one of my friends and I met up with him to have an 'afternoon' beer. well that 'afternoon' beer turned into about 12-13 pints over the course of the day and night. I must have smoked a pack and a half easy. the next day I couldn't even bother with a smoke. I still had half a pack sitting on my desk in my room. which is where they sat. so everyday when I woke up and when I came home from work I'd see that pack chilling on my desk. but I never lit up. I'd go out drinking with friends who smoked and I'd want one so bad! a few times I'd take one from my friends and just put it right in front of me and it would sit there for hours. but I never smoked it. other times I'd come home and grab my half pack and just smell them to try and calm me down. funny thing was that I was tempting myself all the time and yet I was always able to refuse it. it was the only way I could quit. starting back smoking this year has left me feeling so disapointed in myself. I just got to get my head straight and go through all the pain again.

I think it's like any addiction thing, you have to really want to quit.. you should have heard my cough sheridan, it was straight out of a TB ward...

[Jeniffer Mills]

Mark..you have so much tar in yer lungs that you could pave the road!

[Phil]

mark...want a fag??

[lotzik]

the hardest period after quitin is 3-6 months after your last smoke ;)

other than that its easy to quit. i do it every night.

[M H]

Originally posted by Katie
mark...want a fag??

Nope, day 4 everything is fine...

[Tec]

Mark, when did you shift outta Hackney? Was gonna suggest a pint or two in Pub On The Park.

[Phil]

Squat juice

[M H]

Originally posted by Tec
Mark, when did you shift outta Hackney? Was gonna suggest a pint or two in Pub On The Park.
November, bit too much of a long walk now, pub in the park.. I could meet you at Stereo 33 bar on Boxhagenerplatz, but i think it's a bit far for you.... :)

[grobelaar]

Keep up the good work Mark and if you get tempted, just post here and we will all tell you off for being weak :)

[Andreas]

watch out for the 3... after 3 days, 3 weeks and 3 months of quitting u will have crisis, if you survive this though, you have made it...

[karitek]

biggest tip to quit smoking = don't cheat!! seriously, DON"T DO IT told me this one when i first was quitting in brazil. you start out with one drag and it escalates. it's worked - haven't smoked since oct.

[Sheridan]

Originally posted by karitek
biggest tip to quit smoking = don't cheat!! seriously, DON"T DO IT told me this one when i first was quitting in brazil. you start out with one drag and it escalates. it's worked - haven't smoked since oct.


good for you kari!I now I said it before, as did kari, but to do it again.....
DON"T CHEAT!!!

[M H]

Originally posted by karitek
biggest tip to quit smoking = don't cheat!! seriously, DON"T DO IT told me this one when i first was quitting in brazil. you start out with one drag and it escalates. it's worked - haven't smoked since oct.
Yeah, this is the philosophy I'm working on right now, Had one hell of a craving one pint yesturday,b ut managed to get through it...

[Jeniffer Mills]

I think your doing well mark...keep it up! (lights a fag)