brighton sound vs birmingham sound

[marcin]

have you read it?

http://erave.org/v3/html/viewtopic.php?topic=326&forum=1



no comments...
marcin

[@m.]

sheesh.

[dorksword]

Manchester sound as a pound

[Will O The Wisp]

they don't have Phunk inside, chaff.

[deccard]

*yawns*

[stu pitaus]

ive got on black trousers and white socks.

[arar]

Oh dear, people can be so precious and serious.....Ive seen this kind of thing on other boards go on and on and on.........its like 14 year old arguing over bands at school..its pointless...anyway what about the Glasgow/Edinburgh sounds? Just joking!

@Marcin...when are you doing Test again?..managed to miss you there on one of the only four test nites Ive missed in 3 years

[aleks]

then why is mr. gunjack on this board?

brighton sucks, birmingham sucks ...i am the bestlol

[dick head]

marcin, you should change your name to shit stirrer, heheh.

so many things in this thread are criticisable, they obviously don't know their arses from their elbows, eg 'jamie lidell's supercollider is more interesting than vogel's stuff' - haha.

still it's nice to know that not everyone likes the same things, else the world would be a very boring place.

[wired]

hehe... just boring thing there...

yeees these guys are the best i've seen today *laughing*
i think they only knew how brighton is to write because it stands in the topic... they're soo stupid... but normal... like the discussion between normal sound (brighton etc) and "schranz" (progressive shit which is called so here in germany)
it's just boring...

cu @ nh

[Tarrida]

Thats funny...classic example of somebody who really knows very little about the music or the people involved (even though they think they do). What is the Brighton sound v's Birmingham???? Who comes from Brighton apart from Cris, Justin and Ibi? none of them actually come from there originally anyway.
At the end of the day, let kids be kids...

[professor]

what a silly discussion, in my opinion they are both great artists
with a totally different style.
and each of this town has surely more than one typical sound
the sound does not depend on the town so why should they compete each other.
marc snow combines the sounds of both towns
thanx marcin for keeping us updated

let it be, there is no reason for such a discussion
enjoy your life sven

[sigma]

i really don't get this whole discussion what subgenre of techno is better than the rest. why aren't people more open minded?
i am very much into the no future sound but i also go to hard techno clubs (if i can find any, seeing as i live in london.)
at the last ugly funk it became very clear again that hard and wonky techno crowds don't mix. many people there seemed to be of the chin-stroking type who drink beer and watch the visuals all night at warp parties.

[CV]

That upset me a little to read such whining - criticism is a right - not everyone has to like everything - andanyway I live in Barcelona! - as Tarrida says , the other labels are scottish and HUGELY scottish


As for these guys saying I got no soul or creativity - err....... I sold it to get my doggone records out - an I still aint gettin ma monies worth!

Tony Surgeon probably doesn't EVER think about any kind of Brighton vs. Birmingham debate ,. like I never do ... he is an artist and a pretty talented guy at that... he's doing his thing..

its pretty strange more than anything to think that we have a Big Bad Brighton sound!!!!

that make me giggle

I'm tiny for goodness sake - Neils pretty big though , and he hates it when people think he is English

[gunjack]

smeg off. i wrote that on a rant because sueme kept talking about vogel all night at manic...


again, SMEG OFF

[karitek]

sigma - did u really think that there were problems in the crowd at uglyfunk? i didn't notice anything. i thought it looked like most people were having a really fun time and really enjoyed the music. what did i miss?

[Killer tomato]

We have the video evidence from Uglyfunk, Sigma, If you send us your address, We'll send you the video, I challenge you to spot the chinstrokers.....Looked more like insane pogoing to me, Grant was even considering stagediving at one point....or was it you didn't make it past the back room...Nothing wrong with that 'course, I spent most of my night in there checking out Cutout and Cutlass Supreme.....
As far as arguing about musical genres, I'm quite happy for everyone else to hate what I like, just means the record shop won't have sold out of the records I want...BTW Sigma, I wouldn't say UF was just wonky, we've always wanted to keep it on the floor....Banging but devious.....

[Killer tomato]

ouch! Just read from the said forum...looks like people with too much time on their hands....we could all scream at eachother for months saying blue is better than red...remeber, music is objective, you aint never gonna convince the cheezy metaller that your priceless collection of 2CB twelves are better than his whitesnake picture disc....which would effectively be a very simelar argument.....What that guy was saying about really sequenced stuff...I do all my stuff live pretty much, and you can still do well broken up stuff live, it's all in how you do it...hmmmm, too much time and an internet connection......

[JE:5]

I wouldn't mind a copy of that video, since I can never remember anything from the nights at electrowerkz because they have both been so overwhelming!

[jukka]

hhhmmm....a copy of that video would be cool too see how the parties are looking like in the uk....
hope you trained your belly well mark...hehehehe.....

and as for the discussion......brighton-birmingham-washington.....aren't we all bastards, a bit ???

[Killer tomato]

NOTTINGHAM NOTTINGHAM NOTTINGHAM

.....that's all I can say...

[sigma]

yeah it was good party, didnt mean to diss UF. just said the people there and the people at hard techno parties in london don't seem to mix at all. which is probably a pointless observation anyway.

[Lady E]

more totally unpleasant + unnecessary debate

in what sense are "birmingham" or "brighton" in competition? or even valid as subgenres?

apart from the "birmingham" artists undoubtedly sell more records than any of our lot. do we care? no

for fucks sake . people like + make different music to each other. is that so hard for you to understand gunjack?

[arar]

I was hoping someone else would finally mention the scottish thing! I would like to think that it is possible to stroke ones chin, laugh and dance at the same time (at least I'll be easy to spot on a dance floor!)

[Killer tomato]

What, is that like patting your head and rubbing your belly at the same time?

[Lady E]

and that hard vs wonky techno crowd thing that sigma mentions...it depends what mood you are in as to whether you will go mental on the dance floor or hang by bar. i did a bit of both at the SES UF recently. much as i am loath to defend warp, their nesh parties were as free of chin stroking as its possible to be - at electrowerkz too and really having it.

[arar]

@ Mr Tomato....you would have to ask someone who has seen me...you'll get an opportunity in Glasgow in April, apparently it can be quite spectacular!

[old skool]

What type of night does Haywire come under then ? Cos Wevvers was playing electro/techno that I've heard in loads of usual techno clubs, but Mr Forshaw was doing his thang too....

Crowd-wise, I saw a mixture of people going mental (like me) and some serious chin strokers but had big grins on their faces....

Good crowd I thought ... for London anyway ;-)

Not as good as oop North though, we fucking av it up here like ....

[c s]

excuse my ignorance - i don't know many names 'in the scene'. could anyone possibly point me to some mp3s with music these people like ? the link in the thread doesn't work. i'm really curious to hear the music people like who say CV lacks innovation. lol

[CV]

Originally posted by gunjack
smeg off. i wrote that on a rant because sueme kept talking about vogel all night at manic...


again, SMEG OFF

Gun Jack - no-one uses the word SMEG in Brighton or Birmingham - or Tokyo come to think of it...

:confused:

[stu pitaus]

unoriginally pizzosted by the soulless cristian
Gun Jack - no-one uses the word SMEG in Brighton or Birmingham - or Tokyo come to think of it...

or the usa....


here is the problem i think.... it all stems from the common player hater trait that certain people are born with. you got two classes of music that touch a common definition for catagorization.... but are completely different. this topic is like sibling rivalry when your a little kid, and that is the basis of the argument, childish. and its got nuthin to do with location. why bring that up? say what you mean. dont coat your vogel vs surgeon or dave clarke arguements by hiding it under a weak generalization of where the dudes were once based from. gunjack that wasnt a rant you spouted off either, it was penned up sexual frustration.

so you attack the closest relative that isnt quite related to you cause you want to be the important genre. and as it turns out, nobody cares....

i wanna see herbert duke it out with dj sneak cause his house is better. dumb.

[deccard]

my house is your house and your house is mine

amen

[@m.]

Well, burn it down then!

[V Knid esq]

as the big monkey Ian Brown said at the height of Madchester mania:

"It ain't where yer from, it's where yer at"

[stevo]

very childish...it's like to compare two cooks which are cooking different styles of food...solely i don't like basil, then i can't say the italian cook sucks...no i enhance me it's not childish, it's absurd...

[Killer tomato]

Originally posted by stevo
very childish...it's like to compare two cooks which are cooking different styles of food...solely i don't like basil, then i can't say the italian cook sucks...no i enhance me it's not childish, it's absurd...

WHATCHA MEAN BASIL SUCKS?????? YOU KNOW IT'S THE BEST....YOU MEAT AND 2 VEG TYPES WANT SHOOTING.........hmmmm....... philistines!

[mr_chombee]

I'd like to order the berliner meat in detroit-sauce and a note of brighton basil, please...

and right after that a jaegermeister shot. that should help to get those things digest easily.

cheers... :!

[stu pitaus]

and i want the surgeon to cook the fucker and cristian to teach it how to read.

[dorksword]

i shot a jagermiester once,,,,back in 1987,,,,the bloody thing had escaped from the local pub. Gloria the landlady was a Russian lass, looked like a horse bloody built like one too. She had to hold me down you see the thing had forced itself into my trembling hand,,well i had to shoot the blighter you see, best thing for her ,couldnt speak a word of English or Russian for that matter , only had one eye, lovley girl though.

[gunjack]

you can all go back to licking vogels ass for being a fucking nerd and writing lame shit like that rescutate or whatever the fuck that crap album was called! can't you all tell that i am just a retard with too much time on my hands and a problem with foot in mouth disease?


oh well, anyway, vogel: ninjah was kinda cool i guess. the origininal version of don't take more is CRAP.

i may be a dumbass, but no one can ever accuse me of not speaking my mind.



i am a raving lunatic, so what?

all that trying to be wierd on purpose with software just made me sick anyway.


what the fuck was i ever doing on this board anyway???? go back to your word association and deep discussion of the musical significance of jagermiester...




and vogel: put out something storming and maybe you would sell some records





smeg this

[mr_chombee]

yeah right! what did you ever had to do on this board??? back to school, kid...

[stevo]

I LOVE BASIL!!!!!!!!

...but the plan failed, owing to bad english! sorry for that...

[lucid rinehead]

http://www.geocities.co.jp/Playtown-Toys/1041/gunjack.jpg

http://netvigator.com/~dbhk/assets/images/kryten.jpg

i think this answers the 'smeg' question

[dick head]

heheh. may i reiterate my point -

marcin - shit stirrer.

[CoS]

yeah gunjack...we should all make something like your sheep27...
so new & innovative like 1 million records before...

[KaOz]

YEAH COOL....I TECHNO IS LIKE IN THT USA YET.....SHIT WESTCOST...LONG LIVE THE EASTCOST
:D

[aleks]

westcoast...you know it´s the bestcoastlol

[old skool]

Damn right.

The Blackpool scene is well kickin' compared to Scarborough.

You can get a pint for a quid in most places and if you go to the right arcades, you can get a cup of tea for 10p....

[stevo]

and vogel: put out something storming and maybe you would sell some records

what is the problem for this guy? can anyone tells me what he want?
hey gunjack did someone here tells you what you have to do? you have people let to do, what they want to do.

is there an compatition betweeen this citys ore what is the problem? they makes what they want and this is the caus why birmingham sounds like birmingham and brighton sounds like brighton. when everyone makes the same, its becoming boring, ore not? :!

[expdlbntrnt]

birmingham is most industrial place, any factoryes in brighton? mick harris is the guy form birmingham and he doing well sound I mean, just GREAT ! brighton also have STRONG people. BUlgaria ALSO !

[stevo]

man with strange name,
everywhere are strong/good people, nobody can think that he is the only person, ore that he lives in the only city which makes strong/good sound...

[Killer tomato]

Originally posted by gunjack
you can all go back to licking vogels ass for being a fucking nerd and writing lame shit like that rescutate or whatever the fuck that crap album was called! can't you all tell that i am just a retard with too much time on my hands and a problem with foot in mouth disease?


oh well, anyway, vogel: ninjah was kinda cool i guess. the origininal version of don't take more is CRAP.

i may be a dumbass, but no one can ever accuse me of not speaking my mind.



i am a raving lunatic, so what?

all that trying to be wierd on purpose with software just made me sick anyway.


what the fuck was i ever doing on this board anyway???? go back to your word association and deep discussion of the musical significance of jagermiester...




and vogel: put out something storming and maybe you would sell some records





smeg this

And I thought I was outspoken and opinionated....!

People who live in glass houses...........

[Killer tomato]

Originally posted by old skool
Damn right.

The Blackpool scene is well kickin' compared to Scarborough.

You can get a pint for a quid in most places and if you go to the right arcades, you can get a cup of tea for 10p....

Oh yeah, definatly blackpool hands down everytime....well 'tis kinda the brighton of the north being like Manc on sea...

[Lady E]

i really really hate it when people are insulting
gunjack almost sounded ok there, but then ruined it with pointless rudeness
there is no need at all for it
no-one ass licks on this board, i hope
its just that we dont believe in too much slagging- of anyone, really
i guess a lot of people on this board like cristian's music, not everyone here rates it as their favourite though.

cristian isnt successful enough to warrant the verbal kicking, and i cant really understand why someone who doesnt know him or ever have to come into contact with his music or anything that much wants to be so mean.

i can never understand that motivation. life is far too short to hate people you have no real reason to hate

as for being weird for weird's sake. YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT THE GUY .

[old skool]

@Killer Tomato

Music-wise Blackpool has it all mate. It's very epiciliepticipicic, ranging from the more acoustic vocally stuff comin' outta Maggie May's Showbar, to the Retro-Wurlitzer beatz from the top o'tower.

I remember playing with a producers bits quite a few times in a house near the music epicentre of da Pool (when he lived there). A producer that some people on this board may know very well. A producer who I haven't heard from for about a week and is not returning my fucking emails......ahem.....

[dick head]

weird is cool

[JE:5]

People who shoot they're mouths off without thinking eh........

[emef]

this brighton/birmingham thing is nothing
when you consider the extremes people go to in the blackpool/morcambe fued.
we have fighting on the beaches over who sells the best cockles and mussels, and dont even get me started on the rock wars between blackpool and southport.

[old skool]

Fao: Emef.


See above post from me. Or you're dead meat pal.

[emef]

@ oldskool......i have just read it , consider me chastised ,just read your email as well....check your email

[old skool]

Aaah the chastising power of a message board. I knew technology could be useful for summat.

[pejot]

Originally posted by gunjack
and vogel: put out something storming and maybe you would sell some records


Mr. Vogel: please keep on puting out thing's that doesn't sell - they are so good. Like a track from Busca that Mrs. Casal played last Friday here in Warsaw. Went to the club that I go to like 2 times a year and music she played convinced me that majority of the crowd that left when I could finally shake my old ass without any drinking, simply were unable to get it. They do not matter to me.
Hmm, what's that unpleasant taste on my tong?

As to Surgeon - have heard 'Screw the roses' once and quite liked it but not that much to spend any money on it.

[Sheridan]

the whole thing is fucking stupid. for me music is
communication. every artist is trying to communicate
their own thing. why not check it all out? I personally love
the whole birmingham sound, as I also love the brighton
sound. it just depends on what I am into at the moment.
sometimes I need to listen to that raw gritty shit like regis
and female (very underated in my opion). and then there
are times I like to sit back and listen to vogel or lidell.
in the end the same goal was met, an artist created
something as a means to communicate with me. I listened
to it and I am better for it. I think if you listen to only one
style you get tunnel vision and it is hard to even understand
and evaluate other people's postion. to paraphrase emma,
life is too short. so why spend time hating and also why
spend time only listening to one style. but I think if it really
came down to it and there was a huge techno battle royal
Adam Beyer would kick everyones ass just cause he is so big.

the east coast is the right coast

[zombie ritual]

I actually like "Screw the roses" very much. I think Surgeon is on the rise in terms of quality.

[V Knid esq]

Surgeon's remix of Mogwai set new standards for white/pink/brown/khaki noise.
But what does a Knid know? Knids hate human music.

[Killer tomato]

I really like this Milton Keynes sound that's coming about at the moment.........sod everything else, this is the shit!

[V Knid esq]

Balls! Leighton Buzzard techno is the one true sound, and I shall fight any man who says otherwise.

[Killer tomato]

NO, KNID!!!!! MK all the way.....

[V Knid esq]

Leighton Buzzard! (well, I say that, but true connosieurs only like the sound from south-west Leighton Buzzard. And then only the stuff from Acacia Avenue is the real shiznit)

[jamyna]

(Adopts Mafia-esq type persona) hmmm nice little thread you've got going here, yeah very nice.......it'd be a real shame if something happened to this here thread now wouldn't it?

[old skool]

Milton Keynes, Leighton Buzzard ha ha haaaa !!!!

Obviously you've never heard Scouse-House. It's da bomb.

Altogether now... "True love never dies wooo woooo ooh babeee"

And if anyone's got a problem with it, then they're gonna find my brand new Rockport boot up their ass ....

Laffin' kidda laaaa .......

[Lady E]

i dont know if i liked that surgeon mogwai remix. im gonna have a listen to that album again, it was alright. prefer the original of course. generally i avoid remix albums like the proverbial plague. but someone bought that for me knowing i like mogwai

does anyone care?

[old skool]

Nope. Couldn't give a monkeys Emma. And I think you've got a darn cheek slagging off an album someone bought for you. Wait until I tell em ....

;-)

[old skool]

That was only a joke by the way Emma .... me worrying I have offended thee ...

[V Knid esq]

Nope - I prefer the remix album.

[Lady E]

up both your arses then!

[old skool]

I was gonna say I prefer the remix album too.... even though I've completely forgotten which album we're on about ...

Was it Sash! or summat ???

:-))

[MUX]

and as good poll always ends... old skool vs Knid = ( anything out of point from the topic + them dissing each other ) and Emma as Mother superior trying to level things out...

damn were sweet.
lol - lol - lol - lol

[old skool]

Me dissin' Knid ???

That Knid sounds like a nice sort.

And Emma as Mother Superior, now that's summat to think about .... meeeoww...grrrr and so on and so forth ....

[MUX]

but dissing is also a way of creative discussion..

[old skool]

Yeah, but dissin' can also lead to bit of a shoeing too ....

I mean I wouldn't go up to and start dissin' some dude about his mama to initiate a conversation about an Aphex Twin remix...


well, erm unless it was his mama that did it ....

[MUX]

how many friends Mum's have u got that do aphex twin remixes?

[old skool]

Quite a few mate. There's me mate Baz's mum from next-door and Nigel's that lives up by the park... she does quite a few.

[MUX]

gee...
and i thought mum's were only handy with KENWOODS and WASHING MACHINES

[old skool]

Well you must have heard tracks like Mr Fingers "Washing Machine" (It's Leaking Again Remix), Bam Bam's "Where's Your Child" (And When I Find Him He's Grounded Remix), Housemaster Boyz "House Nation" (They Never Help Me Washup Remix) ....

All done by various mothers, well mainly, in the Chicago area ....

The list goes on .... and on ..... and if you really want me to cos I'm that bored at work ......on......... :-)))

[MUX]

actually i once read that mira calix... who is sean from Autechre wife, does the cooking & cleaning , dusts off the studio gear in the basement, makes a E.P. and is still up in time for Eastenders!

[old skool]

Now that's a lady I wanna get down with ..... If you know him send him an email asking if he wants to swap with a Scouse bird, who never cleans, never tells me when summat good is on the telly, but is very cute and is a blinder of a cook ..... ;-))

[MUX]

im sure a fine deal could be made. Those AE lads... there quite reasonable guys u know.. ill pass on the offer..

[JE:5]

Another couple of mothers mixes...

Dj Pierre's Box Energy (Daz, cleans whiter than white mix)

Sleazy D - I've lost control (Bored housewife on valium mix)

[old skool]

Frankie Knuckles - Your Love (Don't Pay The Bills No-Job Loooser Mix)

Inner City - Big Fun (New Dyson Super-Suck Mix)

Rythim Is Rhythim - Nude Photo (Vodka & Tonic Remix)

Inner City - Good Life (Cleaning My Fellas Underpants Remix)

[JE:5]

Rythim Is Rhythim - Strings of life (Anne Summers G-string mix)

Joey Beltram - Energy flash (Bathtub scrub mix)

Urban Shakedown - Some justice (Son in prison, Husband having an affair mix)

[old skool]

Joey Beltram - Mentasm (Manic Depressive Housewife Mix)

Joey Beltram - Forklift (Need A Dishwasher Mix)

Laurent Garnier - Crispy Bacon (New Citrus Fairy Mix)

Jam & Spoon - Stella (Wifebeater Mix) .... sorry .....

[JE:5]

Side A: LFO - Tied up (Cooker and sink mix)
Side B: LFO - Tied up (£20 cheque from razzle mix)

+Bonus 7" including -

LFO - We are back (Where the bloody hell have you been until this time? mix)

[V Knid esq]

Lil Louis - Blackout (Gin & Valium mix)
Model 500 - Night Drive ("Get us 10 Lambert & Butler from the 24 hour garage while you're out" mix)
Fingers Inc - Sleazy Feeling (Delivery Boy mix)
Nightmares On Wax - Aftermath (Nursing a hangover and fantasising about Kilroy mix)

[old skool]

Luke Slater - Wireless (Drunken Argument - Through The Window mix)

Green Velvet - La La Land (Mother In Law mix)

Plastikman - Artifakts (Bottomless Handbag Remix)

Silicone Soul - Right On 4 Tha Darkness (Bill Money Spent At the Bookies Mix)

[JE:5]

Steve Poindexter - Work that motherfucker (Extended 12" step father mix)

[gunjack]

that rue est "indoor culture" record is coooool. the surgeon remix of "birmingham" is the shit.

[old skool]

Shut Up And Dance - £10 To Get In (Teenage Babysitter Mix)