Jonathan King

[grobelaar]

What a thoroughly odious piece of shit. Dunno what anyone else think but his little display on the news today was sickening.

Somewhat ironic that someone released on parole should immediately protest their innocence - I rather thought that a condition of getting parole was admission of guilt. So he's a lying two-face piece of shit...

I've been checking out his little self-publicity stunt...

http://www.kingofhits.com/

[Level]

"spit 'll do for you"

[thembuzz]

he is revolting, isn't he?

[TheWasp]

Level ? aye

[thembuzz]

that jonathan king's alright, though

edit: not really

[Level]

Originally posted by TheWasp
Level ?

At one of the disco's that the beastin bastard ran at a youth club he took a young boy outside.

His young victim asked JK if he'd need a lubricant.

"spit 'll do for you" was the reply the victim claims.

[thembuzz]

jesus...

still, jimmy pursey still speaks fondly of king's youth club thing

[Level]

Please Mr King not again

http://www.mohicantunes.it/IMAGES/Jimmy%20Pursey.jpg

[JonnySpeed]

In situations like these I tend to think about Chris Morris' Brass Eye, the paediatrician at a south Wales hospital has been forced out of her home by vandals who thought her job title meant the same as "paedophile" and the Viz article about using BNFL to dispose of nonces.

I don't think what he did was right but I question the tone of the press reporting.

[Lady E]

Originally posted by JonnySpeed
In situations like these I tend to think about Chris Morris' Brass Eye, the paediatrician at a south Wales hospital has been forced out of her home by vandals who thought her job title meant the same as "paedophile" and the Viz article about using BNFL to dispose of nonces.

I don't think what he did was right but I question the tone of the press reporting.

i agree.

[grobelaar]

I think the nature of King's career makes this slightly different. The Brass Eye thing is definitely nob on with how this subject matter rolls out of control, but press or no press. King is courting them and turning this into a little publicity stunt - it's business as usual back at King HQ.

I'm sure getting out of nick is a great relief to anyone, but the way in which King did so yesterday was in incredible bad taste to say the least. And it looked to be of his making, not that of the press. All that shit alluding to him being like a modern day Oscar Wilde - do me a favour. There is no tone, it was a straight recorded quote from the man on the doorstep outside teh nick.

As to his upcoming appeal, I was watching some of the films on HIS website. He's not even going to try and dispute the facts of the case, he's objecting to the fact that the incidents took place over 30 years ago and he doesn't feel it's right that such old evidence can be levied against him. So abuse young boys is fine as long as you don't get caught immediately.

[Lady E]

i didnt see it, grobs. ive always disliked him but i do feel a little like the man has been scapegoated.

my feelings on this arent properly formulated, and it is such a controversial subject. but from my own experience, certain older people, given the chance, do tend to manipulate and exploit younger people for sex when they are in their teens and 'Barely Legal' (see the british tabloids / mens magazines for many examples of the exploitation of this threshold of acceptable desirability for readers titillation).

it's certainly something you come across as a young girl all the time - teachers, older men you meet etc. i had an affair with one of my teachers. i was overage and i had left the college, but i know it could have happened quite differently (ie whilst in his class and effectively in his power) if i had wanted it / allowed it to. he was quite explicit in his advances to me. things like that were going on all the time with other girls and teachers and men who should have behaved better.

the sexy school girl is an intrinsic part of the fabric of british sexual life and i think there are some serious hypocrasies and mixed messages going on that need examining and that King maybe is referencing when he talks about Oscar Wilde. The whole Bill Wyman / Mandy Smith episode seemed to me to be just as distasteful as anything i read about King's behaviour, but he was never prosecuted was he?

[CV]

there was a good article in the observer this weekend about the him

[Martin23]

King as Wilde, please...the man is a shit who abused people and his power, he should be beaten to death with Jimmy Saville ;)

[pongoid]

So I'm a bit unclear on all of this. Not reading the British papers and all, from what I can gather between here and Mr. King's site is that he's some old poof, high up in the music industry, perhaps quite accomplished, who used to bugger little boys, maybe still does, and the courts are trying to do him for it, but the powers of wealth and privelage are once again proving that justice is not blind or fair. Am I off?

[Basic 2: The Revenge]

He has done 3.5 years - but he is now out on parole trying to plead innocence.

[JonnySpeed]

Anybody see that MacIntyre Undercover? In 1999 he filmed agents for top model agency Elite taking 14yo's, giving them coke, then having sex with them for favours to progress their career. Although the programme initially saw the resignation of two senior executives at the agency, Elite ended up reaching a confidential settlement with the BBC and it was all left at that.

so its okay to abuse 14yo's so long as they are female? Not one of the people doing the abuse was put on a sex register and not one of them was called a paedophile. so for that I think Johnathan King has not been treated the same as others committing the same crime.

[JonnySpeed]

I'm with Emma all the way on this one.

[JonnySpeed]

Its all mixed up tho as Mandy Smith refused to admit they had sex and no of the models from Elite would file charges against their abusers because they had to encounter the same type of people all the way through their careers as its just seen as one of those perks/hazzards.

[thembuzz]

Originally posted by JonnySpeed
Anybody see that MacIntyre Undercover? In 1999 he filmed agents for top model agency Elite taking 14yo's, giving them coke, then having sex with them for favours to progress their career. Although the programme initially saw the resignation of two senior executives at the agency, Elite ended up reaching a confidential settlement with the BBC and it was all left at that.

so its okay to abuse 14yo's so long as they are female? Not one of the people doing the abuse was put on a sex register and not one of them was called a paedophile. so for that I think Johnathan King has not been treated the same as others committing the same crime.

i think the age of consent is long overdue some re-examination, and rather than simply setting this arbitrary, inflexible bar at 16, i sometimes wonder if there should be some kind of scale based on the ages of both/all parties involved in each case

see, two 14-year-olds sleeping with each other doesn't strike me as being particularly worrying. nature says you're ready to reproduce even before that age - what right does the law have to make that decision? on the other hand, a 20yo, say, sleeping with a 14yo is worrying, and chances are the older party is playing a different game to the less mature one. the law should be thinking along these lines rather than simply saying, "boom! you're 16 - it's open season on you, kid". a 50yo man fucking a 16yo girl may not be breaking the law, but it's still pretty unsavoury. when the difference between consensual and non-consensual sex, in the eyes of the law, can be as little as the day between someone being 15 and their 16th birthday, i think we have a problem

sorry for completely hijacking the thread, but there you go

[Level]

Like what you say thembuzz don't know if I agree with the 14yo and 20yo bit though. *joking*

I know we should never judge anybody on their appearance, but I'm going to judge him purely on his demeanour from the times I've seen the sleazy git on T.V.

If ever there was a contender this is he..............

http://hometown.aol.co.uk/glamrockbear/images/jonathan%20king.jpg

http://www.old-bailey.com/images/johnathan.jpg

[grobelaar]

OK, so the gist of this is that Jono (as the Observer journalist so affectionately calls him) is that in the 60s there was a 'culture' of sleeping with 14 year old boys.

So, yes upon reflection I don't agree with this media frenzy, although I don't think that precludes us from discussing it on the forum.

As to JK, well unlucky, he still broke the law. You know i hang around amongst people where there's a culture of taking illegal recreational drugs. Does that somehow stand as mitigating circumstances - I don't think so.