Question - Windows

[Magnumforce]

matter of much head scratching here right now..

does anyone have the complete spec of the machine that Windows was programmed on?

[Weishaupt]

höhöhö.......wintendo rulz!

[Magnumforce]

no Windows sucks!!
get a Mac..
BUT... it this question has been killing us at College all week...

[Weishaupt]

hö.........that was a joke..........mac??naja....... .....get linux.....that´s it!

[wheezer]

@magnumforce

which version of windows?

[pille'ocheoni]

yeah what version,and elaborate on the question and the mcse will help you...hahahah.............what s you query? windows was built on an old ibm model by a guy that has nothing to do with windows,through bill's stealing nature -bill managed to gather imfomation from several differnt sources.one was his time spent at aplle as a early programer-and the other was from some guy who accually built and designed the first "windows".ibm was interested in the idea from the unknown guy but not interesed enough to buy it,bill saw this opportunity and bought it from mr "unknown",put his name on it and had a meeting with ibm,6 months later walla-ibm bought it and bill made his first 6 firgue check.i have some simple specs on the early plans for windows and the hardware that went with it but it was never figured out till ibm got out of the deal and sold it back to bill and thats were everything started the name"windows"and his garage co. was on the move.http://perso.curie.fr/Stephane.Tsacas/img/725.jpg

[Sheridan]

don't forget steve jobs a la mac/apple created the first "window" type os which was stolen by gates.
the lisa by apple had the first "windows" type os.
yo roche how do you attach such large files? everytime I have tried to attach one I cant. so I get relegated to this. you geeks. share your secretes.

[Weishaupt]

Nice pic, sheri!

[pille'ocheoni]

no real tricks,instead of uploading your own images just go to yahoo-browse on a topic and find a website that you can view pictures on their own page.sort of like theres nothing on the page but the picture that you want.you go to insert [img]right next to the htttp:// etc...and copy and past the url of your pic and it just basiclly href 's it and dosent store it on the server it just borrows it for viewing.and yes your very right,about steve and how he was robbed,but if you accually go and see you'll see that even before apple was apple ibm,oliveti,ncr etc..... were pretty much on top their game,the idea at the time was not practical,so many companies threw early funding away because thought is was going nowere.but yes steve should get all the credit,because he made the whole idea work,marketing,manufacturing,d evolpment,so on and soforth.i love mac

[Sheridan]

Originally posted by Weishaupt
Nice pic, sheri!

yup yup, we rock the latest in technology...

[pille'ocheoni]

http://www.laughton.com/Apple/contract.gif

[Magnumforce]

XP
any ideas?

[lo_fi]

maybe this would help..... a brand new windows source code
http://johnfound.hit.bg/winsrc.html :)

[phdbob]

it´s quite sad but jobs himself stole the idea of an gui from the real inventors at
XEROX PARC!

GUI TIMELINE (http://toastytech.com/guis/guitimeline2.html)

http://www2.parc.com/istl/projects/uir/

ubiquious computing (http://www.ubiq.com/hypertext/weiser/UbiHome.html)

history of GUI (http://www.mindspring.com/~prcarter/gui.html)


April 1973, the first operational Alto computer is completed at Xerox PARC.

The Alto is the first system to pull together all of the elements of the modern Graphical User Interface.Â*

Features:
3-button mouse.
Bit-mapped display.
The use of graphical windows.
Ethernet network.

[Sheridan]

all great things are stolen.

[pille'ocheoni]

i second that,but i have some objections,the only thing that makes me angry about steeling is art.when some steels art and claims it to be theirs i get furious.

[phdbob]

Microsoft Windows 1983 pre-Version 1.0 demoÂ*
http://toastytech.com/guis/index.html

[wheezer]

ok, so a couple of things.

1. @pille'ocheoni, microsoft made it's major move with ibm with the whole bios story, in that ms got the option to do the os (~dos) while ibm did the bios, guess they don't teach that to mcse's lol.

and about the copying, dos is basically a stripped-down version of unix, but to talk about who copied who in software land is totally silly and besides the point 99.9% of the time, unless we're discussing it before a court of law.

2. @magnumforce I think that any version of windows was "programmed" (~developed) on a myriad of configurations of machines, just like most other large pieces of software. if you mean what the target keyspecs were, there was a recent discussion about that on the oh-so-impartial slashdot about this, basically ms takes some pretty average machine configuration and targets the os to "work" on that, while the so-called sweet spot for performance is quite a bit further up the ladder.

[pille'ocheoni]

and the winner is?weezer! he deffinetlly knows his shit.are you a proffesor?are you a third party advisor?cause if your not,you should be.knowledge is relative isnt it?[pece]

[Django]

do you want to know on which machine it was written or which programm code was used for it?

[wheezer]

Originally posted by pille'ocheoni
and the winner is?weezer! he deffinetlly knows his shit.are you a proffesor?are you a third party advisor?cause if your not,you should be.knowledge is relative isnt it?[pece]

thanks... I think :)

[Magnumforce]

Hey Wheezer, nice one, also do you remember the Mr T mov. we watched round at yours in Helsinki?
can you send it too me?

[wheezer]

@magnumforce

no problemo, in fact, I found some more :D

<a href="http://www.wildhobbies.com/triumph/10-12-00/mr_t.rm">Mr.T and Conan go Applepicking</a>

<a href="http://www.x-entertainment.com/movies/mrt.rm">the video that started it all</a>

<a href="http://www.80stvthemes.com/ra/121999/transvideo/TR3MRT.ra">t doing some commercial</a>

[arar]

...NT, 2000 and XP's core codes are not descendents of the 16 bit windows stuff that evolved into the 16/32 bit 3.x, 95, 98, me etc....they come via a company called Digital Alpha? The front ends look similar of course..does anyone remember GEM?

[wheezer]

@arar

not quite, Dave Cutler was a chief engineer for DEC, and had developed VMS, amongst other things. He was working on a follow-up at DEC, but the project was dropped, at which point MS hired him and some other engineers to continue re-development on their Windows NT.

for more info on this and other ms windows history check
<a href="http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Microsoft_Windows">the wikipedia</a>

[pille'ocheoni]

really weezer where do you work?......come on tell the gang. hey when i start my co...you want a job?

[wheezer]

@pille'choni

heh, I'm flattered that such obscenely nerdy behaviour gains this much respect - I'm still studying computer science @ http://www.hut.fi right now, I've been working part-time as a sysadmin for some time now to finance my drugs & rekkids...