mdma Gel

[TheWasp]

any one heard of this schtuff ?

[thembuzz]

nap

[1steph2]

i only heard of liquid mdma...

[JE:5]

Gel? what's the point in that?

[stinkfinger]

it's good to keep ur hair in place

[jukka]

..i am still haunting for mdma powder....
as for gel:
can you just put it on your skin and it will makes ya trippin ?

[JE:5]

Originally posted by stinkfinger
it's good to keep ur hair in place

That or decrepit old ravers dentures I suppose.

[grobelaar]

I reckon most mdma powder these days is just crush up ecstasy tablets - or more to the point ecstasy tablets that haven't been pressed into pills. I mean some of it is coloured like they've put binding agent into it and you get some tits running around saying 'pure crystals man - look at 'em. Yeah tit for brains why don't you try dissolving some pills in a little water - let the water evaporate and hey presto - pure crystals man...

There's no way the crumbly shit that people get these days is anything like the powder that you could get back in the day - when the stuff was like rocking horse shit and he blew you into pink cloud fluffy land, smooth as you like.

Maybe some chemists can correct me, but this gel is probably just an excuse to cut it with something different and more easily available...

I don't take the shit anyway - makes everyone look ugly - it's a mind control drug. "Are you happy, am I happy, yes we're all fucking happy - look you can tell because we're all stretching our jaws into pig ugly rictus grins - and chewing the sides of our mouths to shit..."

rah rah rah...

[pongoid]

Gel? It's probably liquid put into some gel medium suspension. MDMA does not normally exist in a gel form.

In one of the more common processes, MDMA, after it's been washed and dried exists in a solution with toluene, a fairly unpleasant solvent. It's essentially freebase MDMA. To get it into the powder form, you gas it, and it turns into a salt, which you then filter out of the liquid. To crystalize it, you wash it with acetone, then let the acetone evaporate. You can do it with ether as well. Then it forms up into rocky shards, looking like speed or something.

That's the reality of MDMA. Colors? Fillers? Binding agents? I dunno about the UK or Europe. Last Briton I talked to said he got tabs there for a couple quid, but they were shit, then he came here, tried some of the stuff that goes round here, bur costs quite a bit more and rolled his tits off. Looks like you've got shite there.

*shrugs

[V Knid esq]

Not true Grobelaar. Pills and powder are both purer than they were "in the day".

[scott confusion]

ohhh drugs arguments... back in the good old days this was this this was that :)
as for gel mdma well im sure its imposible to do... but i remember some confusion night some gezzers offered me a tablet that he expained was like mdma only for 24hrs... well it made all my mates really sick but i wasnt judgmental cos i mixed it with propper mdma and was as happy as larry. :-p

[TheWasp]

cheers folks , was asked about it and it confused the fuck out of me cause i'd never heard of such a thing

[Level]

It's just a lubricant!

[TheWasp]

that would be a good idea

[drop]

V Knid
"back in the day" everything was purer
except the E
back in the day "chocolate chip" (heroin) rolls were all over the place.
anyone get hit up with dxm rolls?
haven't seen those since 96

[TheWasp]

aye , back in the day mmmmfft blah blah yadda yadda , geez peace

[Mirsha]

Originally posted by V Knid esq
Not true Grobelaar. Pills and powder are both purer than they were "in the day".
Less harmfull stuff, more filler I think would be the correct way of phrasing it.

[bitch one]

best sweets i ever got were just that, sweets. some dutch comedian had got hold of a machine for making tutti-frutti style sweets, chewy in the middle with a crispy coating. they were even blackcurrant flavour. they were fucking huge too.

[JonnySpeed]

Originally posted by V Knid esq
Not true Grobelaar. Pills and powder are both purer than they were "in the day".

Completely agree with you there. Pills were dodgy as you like 'back in the day' when I first took them in 1990/91 and way too expensive. Not saying they are any better but all this bull about quality going down is just nonce-sence.

[bracket]

Gimme the 2ci over Mdma anyday.

[nikrem]

2ci - now you're talking..

http://www.erowid.org/library/books_online/pihkal/pihkal033.shtml

[Tec]

Liquid? You can get liquid Mdma for sure. Gel, well...its kind of a liquid i s'pose.

Imagine having a bath in that! lol

[Tec]

DMT? my 'supply' line from Oz has faultered as of late...anyone with any joys here or there?

[bracket]

Speak to Godog about the DMT - personally i find the stuff scarier than crack.

[jukka]

liquid mdma ?

if ya all talking of what is known as liquid ecstasy, then it isn't madma as far as i know.
its some kind of narcoticum used by doctores.

[Tec]

Originally posted by jukka
liquid mdma ?

if ya all talking of what is known as liquid ecstasy, then it isn't madma as far as i know.
its some kind of narcoticum used by doctores.

You don't get it on the street. Too difficult to manage/accurately weigh

Think liquid Ketamine, and then when you cook it up it will basify to a powder.

trust me, it exists.

[trippingadget]

For the next best thing to DMT try this.

http://www.salvia-divinorum-supplies.co.uk/proddetail.php?prod=000475

[grobelaar]

Originally posted by V Knid esq
Not true Grobelaar. Pills and powder are both purer than they were "in the day".

maybe you can correct me if I'm wrong - but I'm pretty certain the pure natural mdma uses Safrole as precursor. Safrole is some naturally occuring plant oil, which since the huge boom in recreational mdma and ecstasy in the late 80s has pretty much been right up their with industrial fertilizer on the big list of things that 'they' monitor to see whose buying what...

...ergo, since very early 90s or something all MDMA has been made with synthesized Safrole and simply isn't quite what it used to be...

Like I say maybe its just some drug myth, can't say I spend too much time reading about these things and I was too late in the proceedings to offer any anecdotal evidence of this...

But that's what I heard.

[drop]

Originally posted by (B)racket-oUt
Gimme the 2ci over Mdma anyday.
2ci is pretty good
sat in a treehouse listening to blues for about 4-5 hours.
2ct2 is really trippy though

salvia divinorum is alright,
i smoked some with this kid who had a pound.
he mixed it with some bud and we smoked it out of a bong using a butane torch.
i tried to dj
was really confused
when i turned to enter the kitchen from the living room
my peripheral vision fragmented and it felt like i was falling into a chasm. i fell on my knees hard and started laughing. i tried to stand but my legs were all jelly
so i sat on the floor for about 10 minutes.
i smoked it a couple other times afterwards but it wasn't the same.

[KaOz]

would be good for another dimension of anal sex

[Damo]

Originally posted by trippingadget
For the next best thing to DMT try this.

http://www.salvia-divinorum-supplies.co.uk/proddetail.php?prod=000475

that stuff is pure insanity. a flatmate of mine once smoked some of it in a bong and his entire consciousness was consumed with this trip for about 10 mins, with no self-awareness at all. he said he saw a great deal of very intense geometric visuals - lines and grids all sucking him through what he later decribed as "layers of reality" (and he's a smart guy who aint no hippy or prone to overstatement) in a sort of Matrix stylee.

afterwards when he came to he was told by his freinds that he had been "speaking in tongues" - saying "shemdags" over and over. he had no idea what "shemdags" meant.

it only lasted 10 mins but that evening he had a bit of a flashback: i remember he felt really tall and was laughing a lot.

he highly recommends it.

i have no idea about this mdma gel tho. sounds like a big fat lie to me. i havent seen it on Erowid.

[pongoid]

Originally posted by grobelaar


maybe you can correct me if I'm wrong - but I'm pretty certain the pure natural mdma uses Safrole as precursor. Safrole is some naturally occuring plant oil, which since the huge boom in recreational mdma and ecstasy in the late 80s has pretty much been right up their with industrial fertilizer on the big list of things that 'they' monitor to see whose buying what...

...ergo, since very early 90s or something all MDMA has been made with synthesized Safrole and simply isn't quite what it used to be...

Like I say maybe its just some drug myth, can't say I spend too much time reading about these things and I was too late in the proceedings to offer any anecdotal evidence of this...

But that's what I heard.

Plenty of MDMA is made with Safrole still. It's a derivative of Sassafrass oil, which comes from the Sassafrass tree, same tree that root beer is made out of. Yes, it is indeed watched, but there are some very resourceful people out there.

[jukka]

i smoked salvia once or twice and it just had a very little effect on me, but i got some really "liquid shit" from it.
maybe i just didn't smoke enough of it, who knows.

[Hagbard]

Originally posted by jukka
i smoked salvia once or twice and it just had a very little effect on me, but i got some really "liquid shit" from it.
maybe i just didn't smoke enough of it, who knows.

I think there must be two types of Salvia... cos I've only ever heard two opinions on it.. what you said Jukka.. and then other people say it's like flying out of your chair at light speed and plunging deep down into the diamond core of Jupiter as every atom in your body explodes apart in a symphony of ecstacy. That kind of vibe.

[Damo]

with salvia it depends greatly on whether you smoke the leaves or the extract.

the leaves arent very potent, although they can be a bit trippy.

the extract is what sucks you into the diamond core of jupiter, as it were.

http://www.a1b2c3.com/drugs/salvia3.htm

did anyone ever see that Richard and Judy special on salvia? they did a piece on how "outrageous" it was that the stuff was still perfectly legal in the UK. obviously realising that no one watching would know what it was they decided to film someone smoking it. so they got the gay "investigative reporter" guy from Watchdog to sit in a London park and smoke it. once it kicked in he said all the buses had eyes and tried to eat them. then he feel over and tried to stop himself falling through the Earth by holding the grass, all the while laughing his nuts off.

classic.

[Hagbard]

lol wish I'd seen that. I remember that legal highs programme on channel 4 a few years ago had someone smoking leaves, he just looked really really stoned and giggly.

[GodDog]

talking about drugs is well depressing

[Lady E]

why do you constantly do it then phil?

[Extremist]

well dont know mdma gel, i know there are some gels with liquid/ghb in , but here in belgium its never in Gel capsules>>>just in Flugel bottles:)
... But ghb has totally nothing to do with mdma so,...

i only know the mdma powder...

[JE:5]

I took loads of DMT and went to Sirius yer man, ZZZZzzzzzzz

[robin]

Originally posted by jukka
liquid mdma ?

if ya all talking of what is known as liquid ecstasy, then it isn't madma as far as i know.
its some kind of narcoticum used by doctores.

i expect what tec means is mdma dissolved in water, as i understand it it dissolves very easily

for example i had some tea the other day, but it was tea with mdma dissolved in it. it worked

[GodDog]

hiya Robin, where are you from? hiya.

[robin]

C 2 the AMBRIDGE

that means cambridge not ambridge from the archers

[GodDog]

and tell me Robin, if i may call you Robin.Did you study at Cambridge my dear fellow?

[robin]

no, i am just from cambridge. i assume from your general knowledge + vibe you did thogh?

[GodDog]

no, Im just been friendly, no need rto bite my little head off :-(

[robin]

!!!
i#m sorry!
please don't think i am biting your head off, i didn't mean to take the piss. i am trying to be friendly

[Tec]

lol

[GodDog]

ok, it's nothing, it's like man, sometimes you know, kinda like things get sort of lost in translation dude, kinda like 2 people talking on a tube train kinda thing and someone mishears. hey dude no worries!!! Welcome to no-future man!! hi, im Davenport,

[GodDog]

pi tec u playing at bangface or is that anothe bloke called tec? u doing a bone thugs and harmony set?

[robin]

exactly mate, i wonder if thats why some people on the internet sound so boring, because you have to say exactly what you mean and be simple, without being ironic etc.

is davenport in essex?

what is that above, is it a yawn or an eating face or what?

[GodDog]

Robin, can i shake you by the hand, give you 2 rich tea finger biscuits, invite you to sit down on my grandads leather chair and then knock you out. hahah fooled you. ddidnt i, i aint friendly, im a fucking mad dog. bite your bacon sandwich wont i just. yer im essex, im chelmsfordian killa core.

[robin]

fair enough, why do i give a fuck about being knocked out if i'm in a big leather chair and ive got 2 rich tea biscuits when i wake up?

[GodDog]

they got fucking the aids virus all over them. Trust me, i wiped it on my willy n-all.

[robin]

yeah well i've already got aids from shafting your dad (it was a bet).


he bet me

right, i went to the gypsy record fair today, so i'm going to go and listen to my new records

bye bye!
thankyou for your kind welcoming

[GodDog]

my dads dead. not funny.

[Tec]

Originally posted by GodDog
pi tec u playing at bangface or is that anothe bloke called tec? u doing a bone thugs and harmony set?

Yeah thats right, Johnny and Andy are playing too.

Enfield semi detached garage door intrusion set actually Phil

[pongoid]

Originally posted by GodDog
my dads dead. not funny. lol

From AIDS? Is that where you got it from?

8-()

[Damo]

Originally posted by robin
C 2 the AMBRIDGE


i only know one robin in cambridge. is it you ?

im Damo from Charlie Dont Surf.

[robin]

i don't know, maybe the damo i know from cambridge is a different one? who runs a different night also called charlie dont surf?

: ) : )

[robin]

Originally posted by pongoid
lol

From AIDS? Is that where you got it from?

8-()

!look mate, that is well out of order, i didnt know his dad was dead, you should of just left it

[bracket]

I always get into trouble in Cambridge.....

[robin]

TOO fucking right, you probably deserve trouble

[bracket]

lol

Does have a habit of following me wherever i go - just seems to double when i get to the 'bridge...

[Tec]

lol

shouldn't have mentioned his dad man..

[hotpace]

Think the lastest MDMA stuff out there is MDMA crystal.

[lekky man]

i have seen the gel for sale,not tryd it yet ,will do at weekend.=)

seen a few on it,they seemed beamed up.
its more of a melted toffee than gel,like a lump wraped/scraped onto cling film,

[pongoid]

MDMA crystalizes when washed with acetone then alcohol. When the alcohol evaporates, the MDMA rocks right up.

Seriously, I'd be a bit leery of this gel stuff. Who knows what the medium is? Seems like a gimmick.

[V Knid esq]

THREAD RESURRECTION!


I'm well out of touch. Did the MDMA drought ever end?

[Orang Utan]

yeah, MDMA and pills are excellent again :)

[soulcheck]

edit: does nae matter

[Hectic Cum Balthazar]

yeah had some at a night at corsica a couple of months back, assumed it would be shit, very not shit.

Can't really see me doing much in the near future, I'm just glad it's out there though :)

[Tec]

I want what these guys are having

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[schlongfingers]

Anyone else tried mxe? I'm well impressed with it..

[thembuzz]

i've tried it a few times. i've enjoyed it, reckon it would work nicely on top of a pill, although it does feel a bit like a poor man's k to me. the high doesn't seem so distinct, but it's kind of sharp around the edges - i don't feel quite as 'fluid' or get as immersed in it as i do on ketamine, if you get me. having said that, i haven't ever done enough to get properly spannered. i plan to give it a proper do in the near future

[thembuzz]

while we're about it, anyone heard of something called sparklee? i know it only by that name, doesn't say on the packet what the chemical compound is. but it's nice. anyone know what the fuck i've been taking?

[Orang Utan]

fuck, I haven't heard of these new ones.
Philip K Dick vibes

[joe pinapples]

sparklee

http://images.racingpost.com/2008/Oct/783.jpg

?

[thembuzz]

soz, sticky keyboard. sparkle, i meant

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/police-warn-about-sparkle-ndash-the-new-legal-high-1947861.html

[les diamond]

uk is the petri dish for untested designer drugs eh? ppl usually get paid to do drug trials you got it backwards hehe srsly tho how do you know you ain't gonna grow a 3rd nut in a year or a tittie in the middle of your back or have kids with 9 heads?????

[Orang Utan]

i had such a terrible time on a combo of butylone and methylone, that i'll doubt i'll ever try anything else new owt. not promising anything mind

[thembuzz]

uk is the petri dish for untested designer drugs eh? ppl usually get paid to do drug trials you got it backwards hehe srsly tho how do you know you ain't gonna grow a 3rd nut in a year or a tittie in the middle of your back or have kids with 9 heads?????

well, i've never wanted kids, but i reckon would like a tit or a 3rd bollock, so it's all good

[les diamond]

:-p

[JE:5]

Had some very very nice MDMA recently, definitely back again :)

[M H]

quite liked 2 pages ago when phil seemed to be in 3 different personas arguing with himself.. noice..

[schlongfingers]

how do you know you ain't gonna grow a 3rd nut in a year or a tittie in the middle of your back or have kids with 9 heads?????

Guess you don't. To be fair I might father 10 foot novoptuplets with personal ecosystems. Lotteries are fun now and again.

[schlongfingers]

thembuzz I tried to send you a message but couldn't see a way too, how did you take it and how much? is a v precise dosage i reckon

[thembuzz]

thembuzz I tried to send you a message but couldn't see a way too, how did you take it and how much? is a v precise dosage i reckon

the place i've got mine from sells them in capsules, and i've only taken 1 at a time so far, so - ooh - let's say somewhere between 30-50mg? not much at all

edit: you should be able to message me from my user profile, by the way, if you didn't already try that

[Scoz]

there's been a version of MDAI that's known as sparkle I think, though that could be something entirely different. thought there are well shonky sellers that have been selling bzp & tfmpp as mdai.

real 6-apb & 5-apb are pretty decent. again though be careful there are shonky types flogging all sorts of crap as them 2 as well.

[thembuzz]

there's been a version of MDAI that's known as sparkle I think, though that could be something entirely different.

that might be the one. i couldn't tell you for certain if it was MDAI-like, because i've only tried that once, having already done two pills, some MDMA and a line of ket. it keeps me dancing, any road, in a way BZP doesn't

[joe pinapples]

I think its time we all had an intervention for thembuzz poster. He's in over his head. ANDY mate, please, I dont want you to become another legal high casualty in todays Broken Britain. Stop the madness!

[Hectic Cum Balthazar]

Let's just observe him for a couple more years.

[kams]

its turning him paedo

[thembuzz]

don't worry, i know what i'm doing. i've just got a few more to try and then i promise i'll stop

[joe pinapples]

I reckon ANDY starts his day by pouring POPPERS over his cornflakes then puts BUBBLE on his toothbrush!














And instead of toilet paper he uses this SPARKLE stuff!

[Hectic Cum Balthazar]

I rubbed some Pizazz into me Nans gums last night, she's still going.

[joe pinapples]

That would be funny but she's been dead for 6 months HECTIC. Please stop fucking her corpse.

[V Knid esq]

don't worry, i know what i'm doing. i've just got a few more infants to try and then i promise i'll stop

fixed that for you

[thembuzz]

alright, no more legals. i'm back on the class As. doin' it for the kids, y'all

[Scoz]

handy, they'll probably be class As in a few months and so be doable again.

[thembuzz]

disregard prior review of MXE. it's not sharp, it's flappy. definitely flappy

[joe pinapples]

Top tip for todays HIPSTERS: FLAPPY means mum wouldn't stop crying. Even after the TASER!

[thembuzz]

hehehe

i've also remembered why i haven't taken higher doses: respiratory depression. i'm a wuss when it comes lungside. soz

[don___quixote]

its all about changa down my ends. best thing ever. i've even broken a no-erutufon hiatus to tell you this.

[Hectic Cum Balthazar]

I've heard some pretty wacky stories about changa.. people being passed a pipe without realising what the fuck they are getting themselves into ;)

[thembuzz]

tell us more

[Hectic Cum Balthazar]

the report I was given sounded very much like the classic DMT trip

[wheezer]

anybody else read about the silk road? anybody try it?

[Orang Utan]

this is all getting a bit yellow bentines

[Hectic Cum Balthazar]

silk road sounds like a sting waiting to happen

[love_tempo]

its all about changa down my ends. best thing ever. i've even broken a no-erutufon hiatus to tell you this.

If you type CHANGA into google, all the results on the first page are interesting. 7 are about drugs, 1 is about Oscar Wilde, 1 is about a mysterious computer program and the last is about a tragic bus crash.

[Orang Utan]

anybody else read about the silk road? anybody try it?

http://gawker.com/5805928/the-underground-website-where-you-can-buy-any-drug-imaginable

[schlongfingers]

i want a cup of tea.

[don___quixote]

tell us more

done it the twice now: very much like how i imagine DMT, though im lead to believe easier to smoke than crystals. thing i love about it is the lack of feeling suicidal or remotely sick the day after. I'll go as far as saying i actually feel happier after a night on it. its around a ten minute "journey" and then a great feeling of joy.

Went to see Joe Cowton after a hit last friday and it even worked in a club environment. i probably had the biggest smile in the place.

my trips aint that lucid, did see shiva in some psychedelic mind rug last time which was nice but a mate of mine has proper chats with aliens about how they miss him and the number 7.


worst side effect thus far: the missis is concerned it's changing me into a hippy.

£50 a gram of some kind of ayahausca style mix.

big thumbs up from me.



Nearly forgot:
BIG TOKYO NEON SIGN VISIONS a la enter the void.

[V Knid esq]

How exciting.

Anyone done Blue Lotus?

[thembuzz]

oh man, i ain't done nothing. i'm so vanilla

[joe pinapples]

Andy and don_quixote, have you heard of Shizzle?

[thembuzz]

are you the boz boz?

[joe pinapples]

ANDY how much is two grams of Crystal Tips?

[thepigjockey]

ob!

[thembuzz]

3 ackers each, joe, or i'll do you 5 for a schnuff

[V Knid esq]

How much is that in cyberspace pence?

[Hectic Cum Balthazar]

I'll give you 2 liters of PetroDollar

[V Knid esq]

Actually I think Andy only accepts cash payments in The Pink Pound.

[thembuzz]

i prefer payment in pink and grey together, actually. used currency only

[don___quixote]

Shiva says "shut it".

[thembuzz]

anyone tried 6-apb (usually sold as benzo fury)?

i've recommended it to a few people having taken the odd one here and there in fairly relaxed settings. it feels lovely, but after doing 3 on saturday night, i would now advise caution. i didn't do myself any serious damage, though i think i was lucky

i started dancing after i'd done my first, and sweat was pouring off me within a couple of minutes. my clothes were completely soaked through by the end of the night. i didn't particularly feel as if i was dehydrated, though i had what must've been a shocking pain in my head by 4am. but i didn't feel pain so much as a detached sort of awareness

about lunchtime the next day, i looked at myself in the mirror and saw that i'd seemingly burst a load of capillaries: face was all blotchy and red in places, eyes were bloodshot with dark purple bags under them, and i've lost some skin from the bridge of my nose. i looked like brits abroad

even though i was completely exhausted by about 4pm, sleep just wasn't happening. i was nodding off and waking up again every few minutes

anyway, thoroughly enjoyed myself, but i don't think i'll bother repeating the experience, all things considered. i'd still recommend trying one at home or in a sit-down party setting, but leave it at that

[Hectic Cum Balthazar]

sounds brilliant

I'll be honest, I'm biased against drugs which have 'fury' as part of the name.

[thembuzz]

does feel good, though. and that's the important thing

to be honest, i'd probably have done it again if it hadn't fucked my face up. you can twat my liver if you like, but you do not touch the face

[emef]

i'm not an expert but 'benzo fury' sounds amazing

[Scoz]

wrt to 6-apb / benzo-fury you're better off getting the powder rather than the "pellets". i quite like the stuff, never had any issues with it except for throwing up if I take too much in one go but that happens to people with MDMA and other serotonergics.