Company flow,Anti pop consortium e.t.c

[KaOz]

mhh i found some old hip hop shit.....long time ago i was bing into hip hop (like arrested development,de la soul,tribe called quest e.t.c)last years i enjoyed some co flow and anti pop consortium stuff and serach new suff from this guys..maybe somebody hase some stuff as mp3 ??or other people like this musc here???????

[namshub]

check out tha trax that anti-pop consortium have done wif techno animal on their new album -' brotherhood of tha bomb '- well fat!

[amble]

i think the anti pop consortium did an ep on a warp-sublabel recently. they also come out with an album there soon if i remember right.

[Sheridan]

company flow has sort of broken up, but they own a
record label called Def Jux. They put out an album called
Def Jux presents, with co flo tracks along with tracks
by cannibal ox who is produced by El-P from co flo.
Cannibal Ox put out an album called the Cold Vein which
I think was the best hip hop album of 2001. El-P's beats
are super tight techno styled beats. I highley reccomend
it. Also on the Def Jux presents is a track by Aesop Rock
who is a white dude from NY. this guy flows like no other,
and he has some of the most intelligent lyrics I've ever
heard. thats about all that I know, hope this helps.

[stu pitaus]

yep, nice one sher, anything that el-p touches is illmatic. the one prob with company flow is, most of thier material is scattered over compilations as one off tracks on rawkus and stuff. you gots to keep your eyes peeled. hes even got some tracks he did for del on his last joint.

[KaOz]

yeah i know lp did the a track for del on deltron LP...was great
hard that isn len co flow any more....
i have The LP from co flow on rawkus...
and the single end 2 end burners (HAMMER!!!!!!!)
the last hip hop lp´s i got is a pop c -the isolationist .....FUCKIN GREAT
btw mos def...any new about him?! ;D

........and my favourite mc......is McDonalds!!!!!!!

[stu pitaus]

mos def, not yet but i hear somethin is due. right now he is hosting russle simmons' def poetry show on hbo in the states.

[Sheridan]

El-P didn't do any work on Deltron.
All the tracks were by Dan the Automator.
with Mark Bell from LFO doing the interludes.

[V Knid esq]

If you like this kind of abstracted hip-hop, then you will freeeeeeak for the works of Mike Ladd (his most famous project is the Infesticons, but he's done loads of tracks) and New Flesh (UK crew whose new album is one of the most coherently original hip-hop albums I've heard in a while). And if you want to go further out, then the whole Anticonb-Mush-cLOUDdEAD-doseone-boombip-socalledartists-Fog-yaddayadda axis is fully fresh right now, getting UK releases via Ninja and LEX (WARP's new hip-hop offshoot).... I think Doseone might even be preparing a remix of Daddy's Car for WARP...

[stu pitaus]

yah sheridan caught that... i wasnt payin attention. the del album el p worked on was dels' both sides of the brain project.

[V Knid esq]

El-P is up for breaking a few boundaries - he has worked with several of the Euro noisenik contingent, including Alec Empire and Techno Animal. More tech hop now!

[CV]

would you say that the Techno Animal et al industrial tech-hop stuff is an authentic British hip hop sound - unique to us? - Roots Manoeuvre Come Follow Me even had some of these more electronic abstract elements to it.... And the Black Hoodz - from NYC but with one of those Cologne boys on the production isnt it?

[V Knid esq]

Well all the Techno Animal stuff is with US MCs, and their sound is more of an international noisenik style - they have most in common with DHR and Tigerbeat and other such perveyors of distortion. I repeat, the New Flesh album is the most coherently British hiphop album I've heard in a long time, as it has the experimental electronic elements, but also has a lot to do with soundsystem culture - there are licks and tricks from reggae, drum & bass and uk garage all over it. Hopefully LEX records will help to develop things like this, as they are getting uk artists to work with all the Anticon type artists. I saw Mama Fortuna's Theatre Company, who are signed to LEX, recently and I was blown away - they mixed soundsystem type of beats and Anticon kind of orchestral samples with electronic cut-up stuff that was almost Yee-King like, and their rhyme flows were phenomenal - fast and mad and abstract and not trying to be blacker-than-thou, not trying to be american, not even trying to be cockney, just rolling in estuary english cross-class colloquial style. They were good. Skitz is quite a good producer too, if a bit stuck in the post DJ Premier indie hiphop vibe, and his live show with Rodney P is proper larging it style, none of the slight apologeticness that can blight UK hiphop... Vadim and Plus One are doing some brilliant DJ sets with Killa Kela beatboxing, chucking in a fair bit of D&B, and definitely on a distinctly English tip... Apects doing their funny Devon voices could be a bit jokey, but their rhyme skills and production are proper, and their live show has loads of wicked party funk and bouncing of lines between the MCs, kind of like the Beastie Boys at their best... Were they involved with the SI Futures album? I saw them supporting Si's live show...