sex and the city

[KaOz]

all those guys here love kerry

[pille'ocheoni]

hehe im lost. whos kerry? and what city?

[emef]

do you mean carrie, or are you on about summat else?

i`m lovin all the s.a.t.c. reruns at the moment.
i`m just a shitehouse for all that trash.

[djerome]

yessss

kerry = carrie bradshaw , the main woman in the show

[content]

i love that show. until it gets all depressing in the last season

[darrell]

She makes me feel sick

[KaOz]

man take medicine...

[V Knid esq]

Fucking hell Sarah Jessica Parker's face really does make me feel physically sick. That programme is out-and-out evil.

[darrell]

I do I just switch the channel ha:)

[KaOz]

i would love to lick her

[KaOz]

http://www.hbo.com/city/img/506x190/episodes/season02/ep27_carrie_street.jpg

[V Knid esq]

Too much breakcore's turned your brain upside down .

[KaOz]

hooray for boobies...

i dont like breakcore im want fuckin % melodys with super didlilididididiii elements not %(=!%!§$%) tzk tzk tzk amen my brother do u understand me=?

[V Knid esq]

SJP = Horse! Face! KILLLAAAAAAAAAAAAH!

[pille'ocheoni]

hahaha. knid you need a book brotha. id buy it. something along these lines

knids (or whatever you real name is) 101 harsh reality's that you need to know from me

[V Knid esq]

You want harsh reality?

http://www.cinecrap.com/images/sarah_jessica_parker_090804.jp g

[KaOz]

SJP = Sex jin the Pitty

[mr franks]

fucking hell

[V Knid esq]

And I'm not being a body fascist or anything - it's the whole package, it's the murder of soul all wrapped up in clown clothes.

[KaOz]

Originally posted by V Knid esq
You want harsh reality?

http://www.cinecrap.com/images/sarah_jessica_parker_090804.jp g

everybody was on crakck some day

[pille'ocheoni]

what the hell are you all talking about crack and clowns.

and yes more harsh realitys!!!!

[darrell]

Is that a rice crispy she has on her
Chin ??

[KaOz]

man darell oh my f god darell

[pille'ocheoni]

hahaha

[V Knid esq]

No that's her soul. First it shrivelled down to that side, now it's making a last desparate getaway attempt through her face because she's so evil.

[darrell]

O it must be some thing on my
Monitor then

[Sheridan]

Originally posted by darrell
Is that a rice crispy she has on her
Chin ??

it is referred to as a 'beauty mark'. but it doesn't help her situation any. she's busted in my opinion.

[V Knid esq]

All that shallow shit Manalo Blahblah meaningless fucking New York prattle when you know in real life every one of them is so fucking medicated to the hilt that they can't FEEL the sex and the conversations and 'friendships' and lame ninetieth-rate cod analysis of their situations are all just one more plod to pass the time till the next bit of shopping and it's all just nasty nasty soul murdering self-absorbtion BULLSHIT to keep a few depressed metropolitan women and gay men spending while the world burns around them... Piece of shit show.

[pille'ocheoni]

lol your best yet!

[KaOz]

man dont be so negative, its not good for every organism

[V Knid esq]

The dark haired one's quite fit though.

[KaOz]

man u r out.

[pille'ocheoni]

dark haired one is kinda my flavor more than the rest.

[KaOz]

mine too, but knid is out anyway :P

[pille'ocheoni]

ok. lets jump!

[darrell]

dark haired one is the only one thats
even 1/2 fit. if she dont open her gubb
that islol

[KaOz]

dont open gubbs, open sources

[V Knid esq]

Ooh chase me!

[pille'ocheoni]

now what the hell is a gubb. seriously. a gubb. hahaha i love the the freaking english.

[V Knid esq]

That's not English, that's Scottish. The English would say "gob".

[KaOz]

she never touch the big willie?

[V Knid esq]

Or "mush". Or "grid".

[KaOz]

mush is a good label u know

[darrell]

gubb is the glasgow word mouth

[pille'ocheoni]

Originally posted by V Knid esq
That's not English, that's Scottish. The English would say "gob".

hehe i know i was waiting for him to snap on the scotish thing.

still though gob, gubb, goober, nut sack wtf is it?

[darrell]

I love it when they go to a club on the
Show. And all these men are right up
To them and they are like go a way
Young man you are not worthy of even
Touching my prada handbag. And if
They walked in to a club in real life
Ever one would think these old slappers
Are in to give their daughter a run home
In the car
:) :-p :)

[KaOz]

hrvatksi

[darrell]

ya numpty yaur

[KaOz]

newbie

[darrell]

brand newbie

[djerome]

Originally posted by V Knid esq
All that shallow shit Manalo Blahblah meaningless fucking New York prattle when you know in real life every one of them is so fucking medicated to the hilt that they can't FEEL the sex and the conversations and 'friendships' and lame ninetieth-rate cod analysis of their situations are all just one more plod to pass the time till the next bit of shopping and it's all just nasty nasty soul murdering self-absorbtion BULLSHIT to keep a few depressed metropolitan women and gay men spending while the world burns around them... Piece of shit show.

thats what makes it funny!

[JE:5]

Nope, I beg to differ. There's funny OR there's shit.

[djerome]

Originally posted by V Knid esq
The dark haired one's quite fit though.
she was a yoga instructor around here. shes kinda bland for me (on the show). i like carrie she just has more personality. but its too bad she'd only date a guy if he makes a certain amount of bling. thats one reason i laugh about them though.

[djerome]

i loved square pegs as a kid. who knew sjp would become so big and famous and marry the coolest nerd of all, mr. wargames.
http://epguides.com/SquarePegs/cast.jpg

http://dogwood.phpwebhosting.com/~tvshrine/pegs/pegspatlauress.jpg

[emef]

Originally posted by V Knid esq
All that shallow shit Manalo Blahblah meaningless fucking New York prattle when you know in real life every one of them is so fucking medicated to the hilt that they can't FEEL the sex and the conversations and 'friendships' and lame ninetieth-rate cod analysis of their situations are all just one more plod to pass the time till the next bit of shopping and it's all just nasty nasty soul murdering self-absorbtion BULLSHIT to keep a few depressed metropolitan women and gay men spending while the world burns around them... Piece of shit show.


SJP was in 'flight of the navigator' leave her alone you southern tart

[Weishaupt]

i hate sex in the city...crap show...crap people...nothing special

[roberta_hood]

short and simply!
word weishaupt!

[djerome]

i thought it was a thread for men who love carrie :( start your own thread!

[Mirsha]

I user to watch it a bit but I've found that most of the last season wasn't very lollerific, it was just a series of cheap shock tactics that may work against the moral majority in America that would be outraged about something lie having your wig whipped off whilst giving head.

[Lady E]

knid how many did you ACTUALLY watch?

On the contrary to your rant, its very witty, well written, and at times quite moving. ALL my girlfriends think so. We are talking highly intelligent politically aware people here, not vapid idiots. they like the clothes and the aspirational setting to ogle but the situations are translatable into real life. the sexuality is actually quite liberating for us ladies, women all love their best friends so we like that angle AND it can be very very funny.

most of us dont hold with the romantic ideal of 'the one' so with that we just suspend disbelief and enjoy the real love story which is between the four women.

SJP does look like a horse though.

[V Knid esq]

Well I haven't seen that many, but I've sat through a couple of episodes and not raised any laughs... I'm guessing from what you said that you need to get to know the characters or something, but I just found them yecchy. Maybe I'm just jealous of their classy wardrobes.

[bitch one]

haha - emma, the lone female speaks. oh and emef of course who is an honorary female. i quite like the old episodes too - it's really very witty and makes me laugh out loud sometimes - but SJP gies me the dry boak (there's another great scottish expression for ya).

i can't stand it when she types out the moral question for today tho..arrggghjh

[wheezer]

I don't consider their wardrobe, dialogue, or anything else on that show to possess any class at all, nor can I believe that the show is liberating in any particular way.

It reminds me of some american diplomat kids I knew, they liked to spend their time at parties discussing who has the best maid and whose house had the most marble.

I think Mirsha is right on the money with the cheap shock tactic idea, it's all about packing a maximum amount of sexual expletives or situations related to sexuality into the otherwise empty shell of a show.

[darrell]

Are they any American shows from the last 15years?
That has been funny? It’s all formula comedy and so
Dumb and predictable it’s sad give me little Britain
And the league of gentlemen

[Paddy]

sarah jessica parker is a fuckin dog.simple as that. and it looks like we're doomed to have her ugly mug blackening our screens for the rest of our lives due to endless channel 4 repeats of sex and the fuckin city, just like we've had to do with fuckin ross and co. for the last however long. thanks channel 4.

[Lady E]

its really aimed at and about women so im more interested in women's views on the show to be honest wheezer / mirsha / knid.

women portrayed as sexual beings in control of and enjoying, and actively pursuing their sexuality instead of being passive (99% of tv / film cultural output) or psychopathic (fatal attraction, basic instinct etc) in relation to sexuality is pretty liberating, yes. its now the norm but SATC was one of the first to do it so openly. hence we are talking about it.

[decadnids]

Originally posted by V Knid esq
Or "mush". Or "grid".

mush? moosh you mean ......

[djerome]

the funniest scene for me was when a guy she liked IM'd her powerbook, and she thought "oh mi god, can he see me?" and she ducked under her desk because she wasn't wearing her good clothes lol

[Paddy]

i never actually minded the show (one of my guilty pleasures), i just cant stand sjp.

[bitch one]

have to say friends has the same effect - all my mates hate it, and i want to hate it - i hate all the yuppie aspirational shit - but some of the older episodes are so beautifully crafted, i just can't help laughing my tits off at some of the gags.

mind you, give me old father ted over any american sitcom any day...

[djerome]

they say one of the funniest yet honest american shows in recent years was "geeks and freaks" but it was cancelled after one (or half?) a season. ... you can probably download it somewhere.

about 15 years ago, the wonder years was great.

edit: sjp is much sexier when she moves.

twice edit: friends is one of those shows that they can probably make spin-offs for the rest of our lives (for better or for worse). its a show that people feel they "grew up with" so they'll watch the characters no matter what happens, its like the soap opera of our time.

[Spandex]

Originally posted by emma
SJP does look like a horse though.

Heheh.. yeah. I could cope with that until she started appearing on EVERY fucking billboard and EVERY advert... now I just want her out of my face.

I watched quite a lot of them... my gf's a fan. The show was ok until the last series when they forgot to make it funny... and without the humour, it really was just a bunch of detestable twats whining about how their diamond shoes were too tight.

Um... IMHO :)

God I hate that Sarah Jessica Parker woman.

[darrell]

Originally posted by emma
its really aimed at and about women so im more interested in women's views on the show to be honest wheezer / mirsha / knid.

women portrayed as sexual beings in control of and enjoying, and actively pursuing their sexuality instead of being passive (99% of tv / film cultural output) or psychopathic (fatal attraction, basic instinct etc) in relation to sexuality is pretty liberating, yes. its now the norm but SATC was one of the first to do it so openly. hence we are talking about it.

I think its has a effect to the contrary. I think
It makes woman look shallow /self-centred
Easily pleased and thick

[djerome]

i think the new red & meth show (starring redman and method man) is refreshingly funny... not sure its there yet. id give it a 7/10 but its not like the other shows.

method & red live in the biggest house in a typical american suburb. one of their neighbors is a 14 year old boy who always looks up to them, even though they'd make the worst role models. his mom is like your typical suburban yuppie power mom and there's some sexual tension between her and method man (she's white). i like it cuz its not sterile like other shows yet its not just trying to be shocking like reality tv.

[gypsy_cream]

im female and i hate what it portrays but like alot of others i know, i cant help watching the odd episode. its intriguing to watch a bunch of stuck up shallow whores nag and brag about stuff, people in real life wouldnt even blink an eye at, in new york cafes. its just fodder for me if im sitting on the couch drawing or chillaxing...havent watched it in ages.

[Lady E]

Originally posted by Spandex


Heheh.. yeah. I could cope with that until she started appearing on EVERY fucking billboard and EVERY advert... now I just want her out of my face.

I watched quite a lot of them... my gf's a fan. The show was ok until the last series when they forgot to make it funny... and without the humour, it really was just a bunch of detestable twats whining about how their diamond shoes were too tight.

Um... IMHO :)

God I hate that Sarah Jessica Parker woman.


yes the last series wasnt great, tis true.

[Lady E]

Originally posted by gypsy_cream
im female and i hate what it portrays but like alot of others i know, i cant help watching the odd episode. its intriguing to watch a bunch of stuck up shallow whores nag and brag about stuff, people in real life wouldnt even blink an eye at, in new york cafes. its just fodder for me if im sitting on the couch drawing or chillaxing...havent watched it in ages.

its funny isnt it - all my girlfriends including a large scottish contingent love it. not unconditionally, but affectionately. guess my friends all empathise with or aspire to be shallow nagging whores. some of us arent far off.
:)

[Mirsha]

Originally posted by darrell
Are they any American shows from the last 15years? That has been funny?
Dead Like Me continues to astound my viewing eyes, it's got a lovely fucked up concept which it make the most of and each epsiode has a lovely balance between comedy and serious in depth thoughts.

[gypsy_cream]

malcom in the middle :-p

[bitch one]

seinfeld
curb your enthusiasm
simpsons

[thomas hooked]

i often have this arguement. of course friends is funny. they've got the cash to pay a team of very good writers.
sex in the city's alright. the relationships in it are realistic enough.
all these programs are infiltrating a degree of emotional literacy into the mainstream and thats not a bad thing- boxed sets? chardonnay ads? endless repeats? they're bad things

[Mirsha]

Originally posted by thomas hooked
endless repeats? they're bad things
AKA Simpsonitis. Sorry Simpsons, no matter how good an episode is when you are watching it for the third time in two months it is tedious boring shit. SO help me god if repeats crop up once more I'll rape them dead.

[bitch one]

me, i don't have sky. so i see about two episodes per year, and they are usually pretty funny.

i can watch endless repeats of father ted tho.

[May Kasahara]

My female thoughts on SATC - it's one of those shows, like Friends, that I watch and kind of enjoy, then afterwards think "There were things about that that really pissed me off". The further along it went, the more I wished Carrie would disappear and it would just be about the other three; they remained reasonably interesting, believable characters, whereas she became more and more shrill and unlikeable throughout the run. SJP's acting became worse and worse in a kind of parallel downward spiral, until she became so hateful I actually felt dirty after watching it.

Those women don't represent me in any way, apart from the whole friendship thing - but even then I think 'why make such a big deal out of it, women often maintain strong friendships, so what'. Also the idea that Carrie could afford her lifestyle on the earnings from one crappy column a week was over the line as far as suspension of disbelief goes.

There were many excellent jokes though, also some good writing, so it's not as bad as, say, Bo Selecta.

[wheezer]

Originally posted by May Kasahara Also the idea that Carrie could afford her lifestyle on the earnings from one crappy column a week was over the line as far as suspension of disbelief goes.[/B]

...but that's been a general problem with just about every sitcom for decades I believe...

[thomas hooked]

six feet under is the best import on telly right now. even with the four matthew barney references an episode

[Lara]

yeah I always wondered about Carrie's wages too... but I loved it anyway

I'm a trashmonger but the fantastic outspoken vacuous whoredom was the total opposite of the usual repressive shit you grow up with some places

..Samantha talks dirty so a whole generation of women don't have to, if they don't want to...

[karitek]

i don't see how it would be a guilty pleasure. it's a good show! it's very well written and funny. no other show before it had women talking honestly and openly about sex and relationships.

and it is also nice to see successful, powerful women who are still sexy (debatable, i know...but imagine if you were in your late 30s) and have fun.

i love their love affair with new york city - the show is as much about the city than relationships.

and i have so much respect for the impact that patricia fields (the stylist on the show) had on fashion. it was the first show to bring high fashion to middle america. and she really set the trend of individual style. i actually got to meet her last week!!

[djerome]

i can see why women love the show... especially cuz in the 80's all you poor women had was dynasty and...

http://www.nrm.org/exhibits/schulz/guisewite/cathyspot.gif

[Sheridan]

Originally posted by bitch one
i can't stand it when she types out the moral question for today tho..arrggghjh

a la doogie howser md. don't know if you guys know of doogie howser, but it was a show from the 80's about a kid genius who becomes a doctor and writes a little diary about his adventures. it always had the moral of the story typed out at the end, just incase you didn't get it from watching the actual show.

[yenorom]

The guy who plays Doogie Howser appears in "Harrold and Kumar go to white castle" playing himself on an e binge. Has he joined the long list of child actors turned wasters?

[Spandex]

Lol.... for many years we registered cracked PC software to "Doogie Whinnets MD" of the "Whitney Houston Hair Co". God knows how Howser became Whinnets... but that's def where it came from.

[content]

I always wondered how Carrie stayed afloat financially too but she has a rent controlled apartment so I'd imagine it is relatively cheap and it is small and she doesnt have cable or a cell phone. it is still probably not feasible but willing suspension of disbelief

[May Kasahara]

Originally posted by wheezer
...but that's been a general problem with just about every sitcom for decades I believe...

True, but I would put SATC in the 'dramedy' category, that is, primarily drama, and therefore with a slightly greater responsibility towards realism than pure sitcom.

@content: yeah, that is true, but at the same time she's buying haute couture clothes and fucking Manolos like there's no tomorrow. Most women I know would have to put themselves in penury or save for a LONG time to purchase one or two such items.

There are things about the show that I liked: its non-judgemental approach to drug use, for example, in that it showed characters smoking pot and partying without feeling the need to get all He-Man about it at the end. I hate the fact that so much of women's mainstream media totally ignores the fact that a lot of modern women like to party on the recreational side of substances; all the women's monthly mags are unable to mention recreational drug use without instantly adding "but none of our readers do that sort of thing, do we readers?" or words to that effect. Such an approach disables any attempt to have a balanced and representative picture of the glossy-reading demographic. I know women's mags aim to prescribe rather than reflect, but it still pisses me off.

[bitch one]

hmmm - i don't know of any rule book that says drama should be realistic. you can pick holes in just about anything if you try hard enough. even ken loach films have really preposterous bits in them

[emef]

oops double post noddy

[emef]

Originally posted by content
I always wondered how Carrie stayed afloat financially too but she has a rent controlled apartment so I'd imagine it is relatively cheap and it is small and she doesnt have cable or a cell phone. it is still probably not feasible but willing suspension of disbelief

and dont forget they made her column into a book
she gets in everywhere free
she only really has to pay for her manolos.
which she probably secretly gets for free from that shoe shop guy with the foot fetish that charlotte discovered

i dont have a problem supending belief for a few chortles

[May Kasahara]

Originally posted by bitch one
hmmm - i don't know of any rule book that says drama should be realistic. you can pick holes in just about anything if you try hard enough. even ken loach films have really preposterous bits in them

I don't put it down to rules either. But if what you're watching is a sitcom, you mostly get a set of characters who are the way they are in order to facilitate the comedy, they don't really have any responsiblity or need to make a lot of sense. Whereas drama characters tend to be written more as attempts to reflect some kind of real life being lived. Even if said attempt is a massive failure, that tends to be the aim. I find it hard to invest any sort of care or belief in someone whose circumstances don't seem that accurate. I mean, Miranda = bigshot lawyer, Samantha = hard hustling PR pro, Charlotte = Park Avenue princess...Carrie = one-column-writing ex-party girl. It just seems like sloppy work to me, and therefore always grated on me just enough to intrude upon my watching experience.

I'm sure I would have been willing to suspend disbelief a bit more if I'd liked her/it more (as emef says).

[bitch one]

ah but she has her picture on the buses. and for all we know she might be in some terrible tv ad for vaginal deodorant or something

[emef]

Miranda = bigshot lawyer = johhny cochran
Samantha = hard hustling PR pro = max clifford
Charlotte = Park Avenue princess = tara palmer tonkinson/paris hilton
Carrie = one-column-writing ex-party girl = julie burchill/miranda sawyer

crappy real life comparisons i`m sure, but if i dont think to hard (which i dont) i can see it all perfectly
and i wouldn`t be wondering how any of the real versions could afford their shoes and a few nights out

[May Kasahara]

I'd put Paris Hilton as nearer to Carrie, to be honest. Charlotte is a Park Avenue princess who also has a job (the classic posh-girl standby of working in a gallery), and Julie Burchill and Miranda Sawyer are both vastly more prolific than that bony-ass blonde.

You know what this means emef - you're a better female than I am! :D

[Lady E]

miranda was the best.

[emef]

Originally posted by May Kasahara

You know what this means emef - you're a better female than I am! :D

well there`s a badge i can wear with pride :illin:
i might even get a tshirt made :D

[karitek]

miranda was my fave too :) i love her fear of commitment.

anyhow, there were loads of articles when the show ended about how much her wardrobe cost - they estimated $8mil which i think is definitely unbelievable. i mean one of the dresses she wears in the last episode cost $40,000! but who cares? it didn't affect the plot line negatively. i preferred her wearing a new outfit each show - it made it more interesting. isn't it all entertainment in the long run?

and as far as her going out habits. people in nyc spend a lot of money. she got into most stuff for free, had guys buy her drinks, and lived in a small rent controlled apartment. she had a column, a book, and did freelance writing for vogue. and there was a whole show about how she had no savings.

[Daddys Girl]

I've quite an affection for S.A.T.C

It was the handbags that pulled me in ;)

[invisibledan]

i can believe ;)