desire for fame

[bitch one]

This is now becoming the deadliest sin.

In our culture, it manifests itself in seemingly harmless reality tv shows like big brother and pop idol. However these shows are not harmless, because they help to make people think that their little (non-famous) lives are insignificant, unreal. they think that they need fame in order to validate themselves as human beings - hence people are willing to air the most disgusting facts on Tricia, or have sex in front of their mum on big brother.

In cultures where people are in despair, oppressed, hopeless - this same desire for fame manifests itself in acts of suicidal terrorism. The terrorists know they will become 'immortal', because they will be famous after death. the more heinous the act they are willing to perform, the more famous they will be.

I don't know why i'm saying this. oh well. someone will probably make a radio 4 discussion programme about it.

[goone]

bono

[bitch one]

are you calling me bono?

[emef]

i can understand people wanting to be rich but not famous.
the worst must be to be famous/infamous and not be rich

'the x factor' on tv at the weekend was fantastic/tragic for desparate needy fame types

[Loz]

I'd like to be famous. But it boils really down to the fact that I'm a massive show off. I am happy not being famous, and I really wouldn't want all the 'get recognised in the streets' thing, but the rock star, 'stand on the stage and show off for 90 minutes' thing, I'd like that.

no reality tv shows for me, I have never watched one, and I certainly wouldn't star in one.

[goone]

no

[7875]

fame
what is it good for?
when you're up
they "love" you
when you're down
your picture appears in
the National Enquirer

[oolong]

not everyone wants to be famous, reality shows only bring out the ham in people who have a little bit of curiousity of being popular but have no talent

[Lady E]

Originally posted by bitch one
This is now becoming the deadliest sin.

In our culture, it manifests itself in seemingly harmless reality tv shows like big brother and pop idol. However these shows are not harmless, because they help to make people think that their little (non-famous) lives are insignificant, unreal. they think that they need fame in order to validate themselves as human beings - hence people are willing to air the most disgusting facts on Tricia, or have sex in front of their mum on big brother.

In cultures where people are in despair, oppressed, hopeless - this same desire for fame manifests itself in acts of suicidal terrorism. The terrorists know they will become 'immortal', because they will be famous after death. the more heinous the act they are willing to perform, the more famous they will be.

I don't know why i'm saying this. oh well. someone will probably make a radio 4 discussion programme about it.

they probably mentioned it in the thing they had last week where they asked the audience to name an 8th deadly sin and got a panel to discuss the results. number one was apathy. but im sure craving fame got in the top ten, i didnt hear it.

it is a modern disease isnt it? the democratisation of fame. after all, in the past people became famous / notorious without talent particularly, they happened to be rich and in power and do something that made them noticeable.

[goone]

famous for having big tits / jordanism should be the 8th one

[wheezer]

personally, I think apathy is an even worse affliction as well.

you'd think there'd be some kind of inflation of the value that fame has, I mean fox either has opened or is opening a reality tv channel, and pretty much every major network either runs their own 2-3 shows or syndicates others.

aside from that there's still a ever-growing array of media outlets, meaning that ever more people can be famous at the same time...

[bitch one]

this disease is connected to apathy - i mean, i bet loads of the voters in big brother would never think of voting in an election...or giving the money to sudan instead of endemol.

[wheezer]

you're right, but would there be this hounding after fame at all if it weren't for apathy?

[decadnids]

but people being famous isnt really the same as what it once was.

after all i think most people are able to tell the difference between someone who has genuine talent, and some total tosser who wandered into some tv studio and tried to make out they can actually do something, when they audition for the "next" arse reality tv show.

For proper reality tv, they should have a load of people living for a month like some refugee's in sudan, or in afganistan - let them experience to cold stark nature of reality.

i watched some tv show with kids being interviewed and asked what they wanted to do when they "grow" up, and a lot said "I want to be famous" - but never actually said what they wanted to be famous for.

what makes me sad is that there are so many talented people writing screen plays, etc who dont get a look in as the TV networks are too wrapped up in their "winning" formula to try out anything new and exciting. after all most people dont watch tv to learn, or to think, the watch it to forget about their shit life, and the fact that they have spent 12 hours of that day putting little things in boxes on a production line.

After all - it is all business, and if the cash is coming in then the networks are not gonna change.

my 2 pence worth.

[wheezer]

Originally posted by decadnids
but people being famous isnt really the same as what it once was.

remember "The Emporer's New Clothes"? Not exactly a new story...

[decadnids]

Yeah i recall the Emporers new Clothes, but from what I recall of the story, that is more to do with the vainity of an Emporer, who you would imagine was already well know / famous . and how due to his vainity, he was duped by a couple of tailors.

[V Knid esq]

It's foul. It's an absolute cancer in the global psyche. At least in the US, it's informed by hip-hop culture so it at least has SOME aspect of having 'skills' / 'game' etc (although even that is corrupted to fuck by the deathly monotony of consumerist obsessions I DON'T WANT TO HEAR ABOUT YOUR FUCKING CHROME RIMS AGAIN YOU KNOBJOCKEY), but over here it's like if you can keep your body mildly toned, handle your charlie at parties and read an autocue for 20 minutes once a week that's considered enough to give you top ranking social status. I guess it's concommitant with the rise of the corporations, where as long as you 'play the game', don't do anything to make waves and protect the interests of the organisation you are a part of, just about anyone with the right motivation bar a functional retard can become a millionaire and mix with the international jetset. It's fucked.

[nickywalsh]

I like the idea of making a film with my friends putting in lots of effort and being really pleased with the result. I feel sorry for people like you Knid in a way, because it seems you wallow in the industry like a piglet. If you wallow like a piglet in the shit you become dirty and filthy. and need a clean.

[decadnids]

nickywalsh, i recall a film where you are in a box? was that real, or a figment of my imagination?

[nickywalsh]

yeah that was real. good film.

[V Knid esq]

Originally posted by nickywalsh
I like the idea of making a film with my friends putting in lots of effort and being really pleased with the result. I feel sorry for people like you Knid in a way, because it seems you wallow in the industry like a piglet. If you wallow like a piglet in the shit you become dirty and filthy. and need a clean.


Ooh do you fancy sponging me down?

You don't know anything about what I do or have done.

[nickywalsh]

don't cry

[V Knid esq]

*snif* oh thanks I feel better now you've said that.

[nickywalsh]

the beatles wrote a song about u knid


Have you seen the little piggies
Crawling in the dirt
And for all the little piggies
Life is getting worse
Always having dirt to play around in.

Have you seen the bigger piggies
In their starched white shirts
You will find the bigger piggies
Stirring up the dirt
Always have clean shirts to play around in.

In their styes with all their backing
They don't care what goes on around
In their eyes there's something lacking
What they need's a damn good whacking.

Everywhere there's lots of piggies
Living piggy lives
You can see them out for dinner
With their piggy wives
Clutching forks and knives to eat their bacon.

[V Knid esq]

Always knew you were a potential serial killer.

<img src="http://63.192.157.117/specials/Century/1970/thumbs/Manson.jpg">

Spose that's one way to find fame, eh?

[nickywalsh]

FAT BASTARD

[V Knid esq]

NUTJOB

[nickywalsh]

go and shine your mums bum hole

[V Knid esq]

Jeez, hang on, I haven't finished with YOUR mum's yet.

[nickywalsh]

your mums so fat she has to apply for planning permission to sit down.

[V Knid esq]

Your Mum's so ugly the CIA sat her outside Noriega's house as psychic torture.

[nickywalsh]

Your brother is such a cunt, he's actually proud of you.

[V Knid esq]

Your mum's so stupid she couldn't even finish the job when the blind spastic abortionist failed to whack you on the head properly after you came out half-alive.

[nickywalsh]

Your Mums so fat, she has to put on her belt with a boomerang

[V Knid esq]

Your mama's so cross-eyed she can sit on the front porch and watch the kids in the back garden.

[nickywalsh]

Your mums so wrong she puts ice cubes down her knickers to keep the crabs fresh

[V Knid esq]

Your mum's so skanky you've still got skidmarks your head where you slid out of her.

[nickywalsh]

your mum is like a rifle, 4 cocks and shes loaded.

[V Knid esq]

Your mum is like the Bermuda Triangle, full of wrecked aeroplanes and dead sailors...

fuck this I'm off for lunch

[bitch one]

Originally posted by nickywalsh
I feel sorry for people like you Knid in a way, because it seems you wallow in the industry like a piglet. If you wallow like a piglet in the shit you become dirty and filthy. and need a clean.

are you one of these people that thinks working for a living makes you a servant of 'THE MAN' ?

in which case, you should grow some fucking dreadlocks and go and live in a teepee you fucking hippy.

[nickywalsh]

No, i work for a living for an adult entertainment channel. It's a fun job, id rather not work, but still as jobs go it's pretty relaxed. I like it best when i get home and work on my own things, whatever they be. What i said was wallowing in the industry. I sit opposite Mary Anne Hobbs, and listening to her name drop all day long makes you pretty sick of the industry.

[thomas hooked]

does mary anne hobbs work in adult entertainment?

[nickywalsh]

no she has a tv show called Jamz on a asky channel, her production team is next to us in an open plan nioghtmare

[thomas hooked]

jamz? wkd tytle.

[bitch one]

yes, i agree the media is ful of bullshit merchants. knid doesn't strike me as one of them tho.

i miss the relatively bullshit free world of science where i used to work - the people tended to have beards and be a bit eccentric, but they were real.

[gunjack]

walsh, your sister is so skinny, sha has to run around in the shower to get wet.

knid, your mom is so stupid, she sits on the tv and watches the sofa.

[nickywalsh]

i was only joking, i dont know knid from Adam. He seems like hes got his head screwed on, dont u think Bitch one? And i think his knowledge of Andy Whetherall is worth it's wait in gold.

[bitch one]

i know what you were up to. i just felt like calling you a hippy.

[gunjack]

walsh: your mom wants to be famous so bad, they put her picture on the food stamp.

[thomas hooked]

So lets get this straight. you spend a reasonable amount of the day on messageboards using naughty words and googling offensive bookcovers in an open plan office? - do you not ever get funny looks?

[nickywalsh]

no, im allowed to do anything i want. Mockey is so crap. Micky mouse motherfuckers...its actually depressing me hear it.

[gunjack]

phils mom is so fat, she gotta use a sheep for a tampon.

[nickywalsh]

thanks.

[gunjack]

she got a pegleg with a kickstand.

[gunjack]

i saw her put fish n chips on layaway dawg.

[gunjack]

i mean, she aight, but that glass eye of hers would look alot better without a fish in it.

[gunjack]

his moms got one big titty and one small titty


and they call the bitch biggie smalls

[gunjack]

phil, your mom is so nasty, her shit is glad to escape.

[gunjack]

is this thing on?

[nickywalsh]

was this your concept gunjack?

http://store.rabbitvalley.org/image_cache/13034.jpg

[gunjack]

http://home.socal.rr.com/dadx2mj/handjob.gif

[thomas hooked]

wow you really did just google "offensive book cover" didn't you

[nickywalsh]

http://www.woodsonginstitute.com/Gallery/Equine/Portrait/images/love.jpg

[thomas hooked]

http://www.quasarcomics.com/auction24/pics/mb24web/56.jpg

[nickywalsh]

http://www.riverwindgallery.com/ART%20BOOKS/ps%20i%20love%20you%20book.jpg

[invisibleplanet]

i'm so desparate for fame i belittle at every opportunity any musician that i'd like to be considered my peer, and can be found lying about my signing to a prestigious record label. lol

[nickywalsh]

if thats aimed at me, my only peer is kool g rap

[aleks]

kool g. rap-4,5,6 is one of the best tunes ever...

[V Knid esq]

But did you know that DJ Polo has neither eaten a Polo mint nor driven a Polo car? FACT.

[nickywalsh]

But did you know that DJ Polo has neither eaten a Polo mint nor driven a Polo car? FACT. how do u know?